Derick Armstrong - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

TX PATS FAN · 03-30-2006

He's been rumored as a possible signee for the Pats. Anyone care to share a few details about him? Most Pats fans don't have a clue who this guy is.

**infantrycak** · 03-30-2006

The Texans signed Armstrong after a couple years in the CFL--on the Grizzlies I think. From a fan up there he was described as making steady and impressive progress and having very good hands but not burner speed. That is pretty much what we saw. Excellent hands, fast enough but not a burner--needs to work his routes although IMO did have some sense of finding holes and didn't need a whole lot of room if the QB trusted him to make the catch. When needed he put in some very big games but our now departed coaches seemed to reward good play by benching players. Won't be a star but can be a solid contributer with some really huge plays.

hot pickle · 03-30-2006

Armstrong played for the saskatchawan rough riders in the CFL

thegr8fan · 03-30-2006

infantry gave a good summation. some of the fans nicknamed him SpiderMan for his catching ability.

he only catchs the ball. Not just the easy ones, but almost ALL of them thrown his way that he has ANY kind of chance at all to catch.

Now he won't burn anyone on speed, and he did seem to find the creases well and sit in a hole. Carr seemed to trust him when he threw it his way.

basically ALL he does is CATCH the BALL. Not a bad habit for a WR, IMHO.

aj. · 03-30-2006

....all he does is catch the ball when he can shed coverage. Getting free of a pressing DB at the line is his greatest challenge. He's a great leaper and has flypaper hands. Average speed. Think in terms of a slightly larger version of Jabar Gaffney in terms of game.

**Texans34Life** · 03-30-2006

I thought he was pretty good in the time he was here. Why didn't the Texans try to keep him? He could of been that 4th WR....

Bubbajwp · 03-30-2006

Has anybody mentioned that he has great hands.

But seriously he has great hands.

aj. · 03-30-2006

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Originally Posted by Texans34Life

I thought he was pretty good in the time he was here. Why didn't the Texans try to keep him? He could of been that 4th WR....

If they land Moulds, it will be AJ1, Moulds2, Walter3, Mathis is a lock because of his return ability, leaving one slot for Armstrong, Starling, and Morgan. Special teams ability always comes into play in the WR 4/5 roster spots. Armstrong is a better receiver than Mathis at this point, but Mathis isn't going anywhere.

TX PATS FAN · 03-30-2006

Thanks for the replies guys. I'm looking forward to facing your new and improved team in Foxboro.

**Texans_Chick** · 03-30-2006

The players on the Texans all said that Armstrong had the best hands on the team.

He made some key catches for us when he got to play. Our WR coach didn't seem to favor him. The rumor was that he ran sloppy routes, but nobody said that publically.

He was a fan favorite because he seemed to catch everything that ended up coming his way. Lots of calls to get him on the field.

Was nicknamed "Automatic Armstrong" by the radio play by play guy.

Met him once--he could not have been any nicer. I will be sorry to see him leave and wish him the best.

Oh, and I want to add that I think he would be a great Pats' player--under the radar kinda guy and solid.

GrandPa · 03-30-2006

He is a RFA isn't he... Does that mean the Texans would get something from the Pats if they sign him???

TX PATS FAN · 03-30-2006

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Originally Posted by GrandPa

He is a RFA isn't he... Does that mean the Texans would get something from the Pats if they sign him???

Armstrong is a right-of-first-refusal restricted FA (meaning no draft compensation is due) according to NE39 of PatsFans.com.

aj. · 03-30-2006

True because he was never drafted. The Texans can match but that's it.

rmartin65 · 03-30-2006

I hope he stays. He's got amazing hands.

LBC_Justin · 03-30-2006

I heard a guy on Sirius Radio claiming to be Armstrong's cousin or brother-in-law or something. He said Armstrong was talking to the Patriots. I think he might be the guy who started this rumor. (Who knows but in the NFL where there is smoke there is usually fire.)

Anyways it will be ashame to see him go. LOL much much better than Bradford which the Lions picked up.

My money is still on him staying with the Texans. But I have been wrong many a time.

Mr Shush · 03-30-2006

He's been one of footballoutsiders.com's top 2 receivers in per-play value for guys with less than 50 targets for the the last two years (according to their Defense-adjusted Value Over Average metric). However, DVOA is notably biased towards possession receivers with great hands but problems getting open . . .

I guess in Foxboro he might be the long term replacement for Troy Brown, whereas here he would have to battle with the (younger) Mathis and Walter for the no.3 job.

aj. · 03-30-2006

Not sure why he thinks NE is any better situation. He's not beating out Branch, Caldwell, Brown, or even Bethel...

Mr Shush · 03-30-2006

Brown's ancient, and Bethel Johnson's not very good. I imagine that's his thinking.

Scooter · 03-30-2006

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Originally Posted by TX PATS FAN

He's been rumored as a possible signee for the Pats. Anyone care to share a few details about him? Most Pats fans don't have a clue who this guy is.

as everyone else has said, the guy catches everything. i've only seen him miss one pass thrown his way (uncatchable lame duck throw in preseason), and followed it up with a great diving td grab on the next play. i really hope he stays a texan because from what i've seen, it doesnt matter if he can shed coverage or outrun anyone. put it in the area and armstrong's going to catch it (one physical tool he does have is good leaping ability ... both vertical & horizontal). he'll suprise folks once he's given a chance.

TexanFanInCC · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by thegr8fan

infantry gave a good summation. some of the fans nicknamed him SpiderMan for his catching ability.

he only catchs the ball. Not just the easy ones, but almost ALL of them thrown his way that he has ANY kind of chance at all to catch.

Now he won't burn anyone on speed, and he did seem to find the creases well and sit in a hole. Carr seemed to trust him when he threw it his way.

basically ALL he does is CATCH the BALL. Not a bad habit for a WR, IMHO.

if this assessment is true, which i think it is, then casserly and co. would be dumb to let him walk.

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TX PATS FAN Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Derick Armstrong He's been rumored as a possible signee for the Pats. Anyone care to share a few details about him? Most Pats fans don't have a clue who this guy is.

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infantrycak Lead Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 45 Posts: 37,479 Rep Power: 76601	The Texans signed Armstrong after a couple years in the CFL--on the Grizzlies I think. From a fan up there he was described as making steady and impressive progress and having very good hands but not burner speed. That is pretty much what we saw. Excellent hands, fast enough but not a burner--needs to work his routes although IMO did have some sense of finding holes and didn't need a whole lot of room if the QB trusted him to make the catch. When needed he put in some very big games but our now departed coaches seemed to reward good play by benching players. Won't be a star but can be a solid contributer with some really huge plays. __________________ The Art of War

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thegr8fan All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 872 Rep Power: 666	infantry gave a good summation. some of the fans nicknamed him SpiderMan for his catching ability. he only catchs the ball. Not just the easy ones, but almost ALL of them thrown his way that he has ANY kind of chance at all to catch. Now he won't burn anyone on speed, and he did seem to find the creases well and sit in a hole. Carr seemed to trust him when he threw it his way. basically ALL he does is CATCH the BALL. Not a bad habit for a WR, IMHO. __________________ a penny saved is a government oversight

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Texans34Life I BLEED TEXANS! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Displaced in Cowboys Hell Age: 34 Posts: 1,287 Rep Power: 1027	I thought he was pretty good in the time he was here. Why didn't the Texans try to keep him? He could of been that 4th WR.... __________________ ADOPT-A-TEXAN 2011-2012 - AJ80 "DRE" HoustonTexans4Life - 2010-2011 CHAMPION of TexansTalk Survivor and TexansTalk Pick'em

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hot pickle السلام عليكم Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Age: 24 Posts: 2,434 Rep Power: 2073	Armstrong played for the saskatchawan rough riders in the CFL

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aj. Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,769 Rep Power: 657	....all he does is catch the ball when he can shed coverage. Getting free of a pressing DB at the line is his greatest challenge. He's a great leaper and has flypaper hands. Average speed. Think in terms of a slightly larger version of Jabar Gaffney in terms of game.

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Texans_Chick Utopian Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,979 Rep Power: 24189	The players on the Texans all said that Armstrong had the best hands on the team. He made some key catches for us when he got to play. Our WR coach didn't seem to favor him. The rumor was that he ran sloppy routes, but nobody said that publically. He was a fan favorite because he seemed to catch everything that ended up coming his way. Lots of calls to get him on the field. Was nicknamed "Automatic Armstrong" by the radio play by play guy. Met him once--he could not have been any nicer. I will be sorry to see him leave and wish him the best. Oh, and I want to add that I think he would be a great Pats' player--under the radar kinda guy and solid.

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GrandPa Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 61 Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	He is a RFA isn't he... Does that mean the Texans would get something from the Pats if they sign him???

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rmartin65 I'm Score Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 7,499 Rep Power: 20041	I hope he stays. He's got amazing hands.

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LBC_Justin All Pro Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long Beach, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 805 Rep Power: 10	I heard a guy on Sirius Radio claiming to be Armstrong's cousin or brother-in-law or something. He said Armstrong was talking to the Patriots. I think he might be the guy who started this rumor. (Who knows but in the NFL where there is smoke there is usually fire.) Anyways it will be ashame to see him go. LOL much much better than Bradford which the Lions picked up. My money is still on him staying with the Texans. But I have been wrong many a time.

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Mr Shush Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oxford, England Age: 30 Posts: 176 Rep Power: 9	He's been one of footballoutsiders.com's top 2 receivers in per-play value for guys with less than 50 targets for the the last two years (according to their Defense-adjusted Value Over Average metric). However, DVOA is notably biased towards possession receivers with great hands but problems getting open . . . I guess in Foxboro he might be the long term replacement for Troy Brown, whereas here he would have to battle with the (younger) Mathis and Walter for the no.3 job.

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