mock w/ten trade down

[adrianshrev]

ok ten trades there 1st, 2,3rd picks for houstons 1 and 6rd picks
and we give up 4th rd for moulds
with this scenario i would take
@ #3 d'brickashaw ferguson, ot, virginia
#33 ko simpson, safety, south carolina
#35 antonio cromartie, cb, florida st
#65 wali lundy, rb, virginia
#66 hank baskett, wr, new mexico
#67 steve gregory, safety, syracuse
#129(5th rd) chris mcneil,guard, miss st
#251(compensatory pick) torrance daniels, safety, harding university check his stats small school wonder

this is trades i have found proposed on nfl.com by pat kerwan all of these picks have had their proday and gil brandt talks about each one or at least gives you there workout numbers

[YoungTexanFan]

Originally Posted by adrianshrev

ok ten trades there 1st, 2,3rd picks for houstons 1 and 6rd picks
and we give up 4th rd for moulds
with this scenario i would take
@ #3 d'brickashaw ferguson, ot, virginia
#33 ko simpson, safety, south carolina
#35 antonio cromartie, cb, florida st
#65 wali lundy, rb, virginia
#66 hank baskett, wr, new mexico
#67 steve gregory, safety, syracuse
#129(5th rd) chris mcneil,guard, miss st
#251(compensatory pick) torrance daniels, safety, harding university check his stats small school wonder

this is trades i have found proposed on nfl.com by pat kerwan all of these picks have had their proday and gil brandt talks about each one or at least gives you there workout numbers

Your first three picks are splendid.

Your next 5 are awful. Horrible needs and player projection. You took 3 FS's and a CB/FS. A very crappy RB in the 3rd round, and a WR who struggles at holding onto the ball in the third.

[Mightymike]

Originally Posted by adrianshrev

ok ten trades there 1st, 2,3rd picks for houstons 1 and 6rd picks
and we give up 4th rd for moulds
with this scenario i would take
@ #3 d'brickashaw ferguson, ot, virginia
#33 ko simpson, safety, south carolina
#35 antonio cromartie, cb, florida st
#65 wali lundy, rb, virginia
#66 hank baskett, wr, new mexico
#67 steve gregory, safety, syracuse
#129(5th rd) chris mcneil,guard, miss st
#251(compensatory pick) torrance daniels, safety, harding university check his stats small school wonder

this is trades i have found proposed on nfl.com by pat kerwan all of these picks have had their proday and gil brandt talks about each one or at least gives you there workout numbers

we def. don't need all those safeties, how about a MLB to learn behind cowart, and we def. don't need another rb

[el toro]

If they end up with more than one 2nd rounder, I'd look at nabbing Winston with #33 and then perhaps Darnell Bing with the other.


edit- Oops.

[Mightymike]

Originally Posted by el toro

If they end up with more than one 3rd rounder, I'd look at nabbing Winston with #33 and then perhaps Darnell Bing with the other.

can darnell bing play FS? or is he just limited to SS. cuz he's supposed to drop pretty far and if he could play free he would be a good pick for us.

[el toro]

Sounds like a SS. Big hitter, plays well close to the line, etc...

[D-ReK]

Originally Posted by adrianshrev

ok ten trades there 1st, 2,3rd picks for houstons 1 and 6rd picks
and we give up 4th rd for moulds
with this scenario i would take
@ #3 d'brickashaw ferguson, ot, virginia
#33 ko simpson, safety, south carolina
#35 antonio cromartie, cb, florida st
#65 wali lundy, rb, virginia
#66 hank baskett, wr, new mexico
#67 steve gregory, safety, syracuse
#129(5th rd) chris mcneil,guard, miss st
#251(compensatory pick) torrance daniels, safety, harding university check his stats small school wonder

this is trades i have found proposed on nfl.com by pat kerwan all of these picks have had their proday and gil brandt talks about each one or at least gives you there workout numbers

My only complaint is that there is not really an OL help in your projection...Change Lundy to an OL and I'll be a happy camper...

[Maddict5]

love the d'brick, cromartie and ko picks...
after that i would change everything...some of these probably wont fall this far but anyway
#65- davin joseph
#66- daryn colledge
#67- we've filled nearly all our needs so id take any of eslinger, rocky, wilkerson, rb, te

edit: actually this would be an excellent trade for us if the players we want fall

[texman8]

With ur trade with Tenn.

1. Mario Williams/Bush
2a.Cromartie
2b. Hodge
3a. Colledge
3b. Haas
3c. Edwards/Watkins

[MorKnolle]

Originally Posted by Maddict5

love the d'brick, cromartie and ko picks...
after that i would change everything...some of these probably wont fall this far but anyway
#65- davin joseph
#66- daryn colledge
#67- we've filled nearly all our needs so id take any of eslinger, rocky, wilkerson, rb, te

edit: actually this would be an excellent trade for us if the players we want fall

Why would we draft D'Brick, Davin Joseph, and Daryn Colledge? Then you mention maybe adding Eslinger to that too. 3-4 rookie OLinemen starting sounds like another rough year for our QB and I don't think we need to replace that many this quickly.

Originally Posted by texman8

With ur trade with Tenn.

1. Mario Williams/Bush
2a.Cromartie
2b. Hodge
3a. Colledge
3b. Haas
3c. Edwards/Watkins

I like the Mario/Buch at #3, Cromartie looks like he could be a great prospect, although if both he and Johnathan Joseph are available I'd probably still take Joseph. Not sure I like Abdul Hodge in the 2nd, I'd rather see an OT, although you have Colledge falling to the 3rd so ok. I also don't think Hass, Edwards, or Watkins are worth a 3rd round pick, I'd consider any of them in the 4th but probably not the 3rd, plus obvioulsy if we end up with Mario then we don't need to get Edwards.

[adrianshrev]

okay why so many safeties... cc brown is our ss jamal lord should be his backup the first two finish our depth at that position the third one is 6'3" 248 and runs to the ball good transition to lb but will be special teams player while learning... the wide rec is 6'3" weighs 225 and has a lot of nfl scouts saying late 2nd early 3rd i wonder who i would listen to on evaluation of player talent... 3rd i did draft a guard in late rounds just not one ever one here is in love with just a good drive blocker who could develop... and the running back here isn't as bad as you would have me believe just not a superstar just a football player

[YoungTexanFan]

Originally Posted by adrianshrev

okay why so many safeties... cc brown is our ss jamal lord should be his backup the first two finish our depth at that position the third one is 6'3" 248 and runs to the ball good transition to lb but will be special teams player while learning... the wide rec is 6'3" weighs 225 and has a lot of nfl scouts saying late 2nd early 3rd i wonder who i would listen to on evaluation of player talent... 3rd i did draft a guard in late rounds just not one ever one here is in love with just a good drive blocker who could develop... and the running back here isn't as bad as you would have me believe just not a superstar just a football player

All everyone is saying is that this isn't a very good mock. You tried, and that is appreciated. I suggest you keep trying, as it takes many mocks to make a realistic mock. Taking 4 DB's in the draft is not a good idea.

Basket has good size, but sup-par speed, questionable hands, and has displayed the innability to learn from coaches which was on display at the senior bolw.

Bing will not be converting to LB. He is fast enough and has enough to play SS in the NFL. He is better than Thomas Davis IMO, but he is only the 5th or 6th best S in the draft. He does not warrent the pick, and does not come close to addressing a need.

Getting ONE (1) OG in the FIFTH (5th) round does not even provide the needed depth. McNeil, if you watch his tape, is not very quick, is slow getting out of his stance, lacks hand punch, and plays too upright. He has minimal potential, and is a bad choice.

The RB from Virginia, Lundy, is actually quite bad. He was aided by a studly offensive line anchored by D'brick and an athletic QB who could run. The RB from VTech and West Virginia are both better, and thats just staying in the state of Virginia. Lundy is slow, shows minimal cut-back ability, no power, and does not have a second gear. His vision is piss-poor as well.

You should actually watch the tapes before you compile a mock.

[Maddict5]

Originally Posted by MorKnolle

Why would we draft D'Brick, Davin Joseph, and Daryn Colledge? Then you mention maybe adding Eslinger to that too. 3-4 rookie OLinemen starting sounds like another rough year for our QB and I don't think we need to replace that many this quickly.

DOH..thats what you get for doing alot of reggie bush mocks.
joseph would be a solid contributor on day 1. eslinger was picked as a replacement for flanagan after a year or 2..but i suppose we've hodgson so maybe take somebody else with that pick...

but whoever we'd take would be an injury replacement/future starter as most of our needs would've been filled....

i meant that we should take 2 o-line to start, and maybe another for depth..not 3/4 rookie starters

edit: also i saw a mock and the titans have #39 instead of #35..not sure who's right

[adrianshrev]

Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

All everyone is saying is that this isn't a very good mock. You tried, and that is appreciated. I suggest you keep trying, as it takes many mocks to make a realistic mock. Taking 4 DB's in the draft is not a good idea.

Basket has good size, but sup-par speed, questionable hands, and has displayed the innability to learn from coaches which was on display at the senior bolw.

Bing will not be converting to LB. He is fast enough and has enough to play SS in the NFL. He is better than Thomas Davis IMO, but he is only the 5th or 6th best S in the draft. He does not warrent the pick, and does not come close to addressing a need.

Getting ONE (1) OG in the FIFTH (5th) round does not even provide the needed depth. McNeil, if you watch his tape, is not very quick, is slow getting out of his stance, lacks hand punch, and plays too upright. He has minimal potential, and is a bad choice.

The RB from Virginia, Lundy, is actually quite bad. He was aided by a studly offensive line anchored by D'brick and an athletic QB who could run. The RB from VTech and West Virginia are both better, and thats just staying in the state of Virginia. Lundy is slow, shows minimal cut-back ability, no power, and does not have a second gear. His vision is piss-poor as well.

You should actually watch the tapes before you compile a mock.

i guess you got me there i am a cross country truck driver and don't have that ability to do but i do have sirius nfl radio and listen to pro nfl scouts like gil brandt who has said that is where those players would have been taken i think with the players that kubiak hasn't cut we may not need as many olineman as we as fans think..just a thought.. i can't debate what u can see on tape so if lundy is slow alright find a different back but i didn't draft bing?
baskett is the one who gil has raved about because of his ability to go over the middle and make difficult catches even holding onto the ball when injured on play.. but again i can't tell you what you see on tape. but it is all good, peace

[MorKnolle]

Originally Posted by Maddict5

DOH..thats what you get for doing alot of reggie bush mocks.
joseph would be a solid contributor on day 1. eslinger was picked as a replacement for flanagan after a year or 2..but i suppose we've hodgson so maybe take somebody else with that pick...

but whoever we'd take would be an injury replacement/future starter as most of our needs would've been filled....

i meant that we should take 2 o-line to start, and maybe another for depth..not 3/4 rookie starters

edit: also i saw a mock and the titans have #39 instead of #35..not sure who's right

Understood on the OLinemen, we do need some help there but can't afford to spend that much on them. As for the 2nd round picks, I think the Titans do have #39, they reorder the picks somewhat in the next round and I believe the Jets have #35, not sure why but that's how I've seen it the majority of draft sites.

[adrianshrev]

Originally Posted by MorKnolle

Understood on the OLinemen, we do need some help there but can't afford to spend that much on them. As for the 2nd round picks, I think the Titans do have #39, they reorder the picks somewhat in the next round and I believe the Jets have #35, not sure why but that's how I've seen it the majority of draft sites.

is it because they had the same record and rotation of picks would be by strength of schedule?

[threetoedpete]

Originally Posted by adrianshrev

ok ten trades there 1st, 2,3rd picks for houstons 1 and 6rd picks
and we give up 4th rd for moulds
with this scenario i would take
@ #3 d'brickashaw ferguson, ot, virginia
#33 ko simpson, safety, south carolina
#35 antonio cromartie, cb, florida st
#65 wali lundy, rb, virginia
#66 hank baskett, wr, new mexico
#67 steve gregory, safety, syracuse
#129(5th rd) chris mcneil,guard, miss st
#251(compensatory pick) torrance daniels, safety, harding university check his stats small school wonder

this is trades i have found proposed on nfl.com by pat kerwan all of these picks have had their proday and gil brandt talks about each one or at least gives you there workout numbers

Anything that puts brick on the team I'm for. I hope you do another one. I think we're locked @ SS. So indulge yourself @ the 33. With brick on the team , Pitts swings to left gaurd. Depending on your preference... personally I like the risk reward with Cromartie. If he busts at corner, makes a very fine FS. We're loaded at SS. How about a DE , Mike @ 33/35...TE ? Really liked the 129. He's big he's fast, might make a heck of a zone blocking gaurd in a couple of years. Nice try for a "on the road guy".

[adrianshrev]

Originally Posted by threetoedpete

Anything that puts brick on the team I'm for. I hope you do another one. I think we're locked @ SS. So indulge yourself @ the 33. With brick on the team , Pitts swings to left gaurd. Depending on your preference... personally I like the risk reward with Cromartie. If he busts at corner, makes a very fine FS. We're loaded at SS. How about a DE , Mike @ 33/35...TE ? Really liked the 129. He's big he's fast, might make a heck of a zone blocking gaurd in a couple of years. Nice try for a "on the road guy".

CROMARTIE WILL FALL DUE TO INJURY it happens every year.. the safeties i took here are both free safeties i thought it would provide good competition and depth a lot of people here think just get one but i like depth so if one doesn't work we have someone who has been there b4.. de try the guy from indiana he is about 6'3-4" around 260lbs. pat kerwan said he is a 1st day pick and his motor never stops would be good for depth he is stll growing thanks for the compliment