The ONLY move I dont like so far - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Dime · 03-26-2006

I like quite a few of the moves recently... the only move I dislike is one player from our team from last year has not been signed. Granted, he was the best player the last few years (and behind a horrible O-line, how could you be). Last year, however, he showed me he has improved very well and did some good runs.

Bring back our 3rd backup to Bush and Davis... Bring back Jonathan Wells. You probably can get him for cheap.

TexanBacker93 · 03-26-2006

I know he had stated that he wanted to go somewhere he had a chance to be either the guy or at least split carries. Maybe he's told the Texans he won't do anything with them at this moment. I agree with you that a guy that will do whatever you ask is nice to have. He's the epitome of a "team guy." I still hope they can do something. If they draft Bush, though, it's probably not going to happen. I can't see Bush, Davis, Morency, Wells, Norris, and Cook all making the roster. I'd keep Wells as a backup to both spots myself and waive Norris.

bigTEXan8 · 03-26-2006

Johnathen Wells is my starting RB in Madden. I love the guy on the field...he plays b**** to the wall every game I see him play. I just wish he would have split the carries a little bit more during the his years in Houston. No offense to DD fans, but if he left, Wells stayed, then I'd be cool with drafting Bush then.

MorKnolle · 03-26-2006

I doubt Wells gets resigned, he didn't seem real content and I don't think Kubiak has much reason to hang on to him. He played special teams and was pretty good at it and was a decent receiver for a RB his size, but he was a 255 lb. RB that tried to dance around people rather than hitting the hole hard and running people over, and he was not a good blocker, so he really has no function in the new offensive scheme. It doesn't seem like he was overly well-liked within the organization anyways, and given the fact that they've already resigned people like Troy Evans, Ramon Walker, Donovan Morgan, Jamal Lord, DaShon Polk, Frank Chamberlin, etc. without resigning him I really don't expect him to be back.

Texans Pride · 03-26-2006

I think the longer he sits in FA, the better chance we have of getting him back. Has he drawn interest from any other teams?

**Texans_Chick** · 03-26-2006

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Originally Posted by MorKnolle

I doubt Wells gets resigned, he didn't seem real content and I don't think Kubiak has much reason to hang on to him.

What makes you believe that he "didn't seem real content?" Just curious because I hadn't seen any of that but maybe I missed something.

He seemed to be a very team guy, and I know that he has really enjoyed having Coach Joe as his ST coach and being one of the leaders on ST. I could completely see him going somewhere else if the money were right, but he would be a guy I'd like to see back as I like his versatility and size and willingness to work.

horn_omatic · 03-26-2006

Insted of signing Cook, i dont know why they just didnt switch Wells to fullback. He said last year he would welcome the transition, plus he has better size than Cook.

Doom Capers · 03-26-2006

I agree, but I also disagree. Wells deserves a chance to go somewhere and start, or at least get split carries.

**Texans_Chick** · 03-26-2006

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Originally Posted by horn_omatic

Insted of signing Cook, i dont know why they just didnt switch Wells to fullback. He said last year he would welcome the transition, plus he has better size than Cook.

I don't know this for a fact, but just looking at what the Texans are doing and saying, I am thinking they are:

1. Trying to get guys to play in the positions that they are most likely to be successful doing. So instead of having McKinney be a team guy and play center because we don't have an experienced guy there, we go draft an experienced guy there and put McKinney in the best spot for him to do well.

Some of that might just be a matter of how little options we had in our early years, but I would think it is a better practice to have guys play where they are gonna do better instead of trying to convert people.

2. So, it might just be better to have someone specialized as a FB play FB, especially if he is the sort of FB that might excel in Kubiak's scheme.

Also, it may be that we couldn't count on Wells doing that, if he really was trying to get a FA deal somewhere else.

bigTEXan8 · 03-26-2006

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Originally Posted by Doom Capers

I agree, but I also disagree. Wells deserves a chance to go somewhere and start, or at least get split carries.

He should be splitting carries with Bush since it seems like he would be a perfect compliment to him. JM

dat_boy_yec · 03-26-2006

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Originally Posted by bigTEXan8

He should be splitting carries with Bush since it seems like he would be a perfect compliment to him. JM

What would that make DD?

el toro · 03-26-2006

Nothing wrong with keeping a stable of backs considering who is coaching the team now.

thegr8fan · 03-26-2006

the reason you haven't seen Wells re-signed is because there isn't much use for a 255 lb wimp RB, who gets tackled by 180 CB's, using their arms only, who couldn't block a high school player, and his great special teams players must code speak for "he can't find anyone to block" even if he is the left side of the 'wedge' because I have sat there several times watching someone run right by him and tackle Mathis.

Wells = Waste of a draft pick for a RB. Davis runs harder and is smaller. Neither of them will be noted for their blocking skills though.

Napa Auto Parts · 03-26-2006

the worst move made this off season was giving david carr pro bowl money we could of let him hit the free agent market and got him for pennies on the dollar instead of making him the most over paid texan.

thegr8fan · 03-26-2006

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the worst move made this off season was giving david carr pro bowl money we could of let him hit the free agent market and got him for pennies on the dollar instead of making him the most over paid texan.

zackly

bigTEXan8 · 03-26-2006

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Originally Posted by dat_boy_yec

What would that make DD?

I have no problem with DD. To me though, he's not going to have that big-time run. It's just my personal opinion on how I like my RBs. I've always preferred 1 guy who will burn you *** to the outside, and another guy who's going to run it right down your throat. DD just doesn't do it for me. I think he's a solid RB...

done88 · 03-26-2006

We need a resign Wells petition.

Corrosion · 03-26-2006

I concur , Bring back Wells . Special teams Stand Out ..... does all the little things . Kinda reminds me of the things Troy Brown does for the Pats but to a lesser degree ....

MorKnolle · 03-26-2006

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Originally Posted by Texans_Chick

What makes you believe that he "didn't seem real content?" Just curious because I hadn't seen any of that but maybe I missed something.

He seemed to be a very team guy, and I know that he has really enjoyed having Coach Joe as his ST coach and being one of the leaders on ST. I could completely see him going somewhere else if the money were right, but he would be a guy I'd like to see back as I like his versatility and size and willingness to work.

He wasn't content with his participation on offense, it sounded like he whined a lot about not getting more carries (probably should have gotten a few more) and created more conflict among people than he resolved.

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Originally Posted by horn_omatic

Insted of signing Cook, i dont know why they just didnt switch Wells to fullback. He said last year he would welcome the transition, plus he has better size than Cook.

Wells is not a very good blocker to be our main FB.

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Originally Posted by bigTEXan8

He should be splitting carries with Bush since it seems like he would be a perfect compliment to him. JM

I don't see Wells being a "perfect complement" for Bush. We could use a bigger, power RB but Wells doesn't like to use his size and run with power, he tries to dance around like a scatback when he is 6'1", 255 lbs.

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Originally Posted by done88

We need a resign Wells petition.

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Originally Posted by corrosion

I concur , Bring back Wells . Special teams Stand Out ..... does all the little things . Kinda reminds me of the things Troy Brown does for the Pats but to a lesser degree ....

Let's not, we have enough good special teams type players rather than players that are good at the positions they are supposed to be playing. You shouldn't dedicate so many roster spots to special teams players.

Assuming we draft Reggie Bush, I'd probably prefer to keep Morency to Davis. He is a little bigger, a little faster, and the same type of runner although he probably doesn't catch the ball as well. Although he is already older than Domanick, he has less miles on his legs and has no injury concerns to this point in time and I think he can be as effective if not more effective of a runner as Davis is, and right now he's a lot cheaper to keep but at the same time Domanick Davis is also pretty expensive to trade. I think drafting Bush could mean trading one of these two guys and getting more of a power RB or just let Cook/Norris run the ball get a guy more along Hollings as emergency depth at RB.

Mr Shush · 03-27-2006

I'd expect Hollings to be gone before the season starts. If Davis wasn't so early in his contract, we might well look to trade him (not that we'd get all that much - a third if we were really lucky) and go with Wells and Morency alongside Bush. Wells had far more per-play value than Davis last year running, and slightly more receiving. He's also better in blitz pick-up (not that that's a challenge). As it is, the cap hit for trading Davis is far too big, so we've signed Cook to replace Wells' special teams production and Wells will walk.

03-26-2006	#1
Dime Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Age: 42 Posts: 1,377 Rep Power: 12	The ONLY move I dont like so far I like quite a few of the moves recently... the only move I dislike is one player from our team from last year has not been signed. Granted, he was the best player the last few years (and behind a horrible O-line, how could you be). Last year, however, he showed me he has improved very well and did some good runs. Bring back our 3rd backup to Bush and Davis... Bring back Jonathan Wells. You probably can get him for cheap. __________________ You can get more with a 2 by 4 and a kind word then just with a kind word.

03-26-2006	#3
bigTEXan8 All Pro Join Date: May 2005 Location: The 'No, CA Age: 30 Posts: 919 Rep Power: 9	... Johnathen Wells is my starting RB in Madden. I love the guy on the field...he plays b**** to the wall every game I see him play. I just wish he would have split the carries a little bit more during the his years in Houston. No offense to DD fans, but if he left, Wells stayed, then I'd be cool with drafting Bush then. __________________ The Lord is my refuge and strength, an ever present help in trouble.

03-26-2006	#5
Texans Pride Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: www.realsteeltailgaters.com Section: 111, Row Q Age: 36 Posts: 1,311 Rep Power: 346	I think the longer he sits in FA, the better chance we have of getting him back. Has he drawn interest from any other teams? __________________ Stop Working And Tailgate www.facebook.com/realsteeltailgaters www.realsteeltailgaters.com

03-26-2006	#7
horn_omatic Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Clear Lake Age: 35 Posts: 66 Rep Power: 8	Insted of signing Cook, i dont know why they just didnt switch Wells to fullback. He said last year he would welcome the transition, plus he has better size than Cook. __________________ There's a crunchberry under the fridge. -Peter Griffin

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Doom Capers Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 434 Rep Power: 10	I agree, but I also disagree. Wells deserves a chance to go somewhere and start, or at least get split carries. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/justinofdoom http://groups.myspace.com/garykubiak

03-26-2006	#2
TexanBacker93 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cypress, TX Age: 42 Posts: 1,618 Rep Power: 3447	I know he had stated that he wanted to go somewhere he had a chance to be either the guy or at least split carries. Maybe he's told the Texans he won't do anything with them at this moment. I agree with you that a guy that will do whatever you ask is nice to have. He's the epitome of a "team guy." I still hope they can do something. If they draft Bush, though, it's probably not going to happen. I can't see Bush, Davis, Morency, Wells, Norris, and Cook all making the roster. I'd keep Wells as a backup to both spots myself and waive Norris.

03-26-2006	#4
MorKnolle Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,210 Rep Power: 0	I doubt Wells gets resigned, he didn't seem real content and I don't think Kubiak has much reason to hang on to him. He played special teams and was pretty good at it and was a decent receiver for a RB his size, but he was a 255 lb. RB that tried to dance around people rather than hitting the hole hard and running people over, and he was not a good blocker, so he really has no function in the new offensive scheme. It doesn't seem like he was overly well-liked within the organization anyways, and given the fact that they've already resigned people like Troy Evans, Ramon Walker, Donovan Morgan, Jamal Lord, DaShon Polk, Frank Chamberlin, etc. without resigning him I really don't expect him to be back.

03-26-2006	#12
el toro All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 509 Rep Power: 8	Nothing wrong with keeping a stable of backs considering who is coaching the team now.

03-26-2006	#13
thegr8fan All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 872 Rep Power: 666	the reason you haven't seen Wells re-signed is because there isn't much use for a 255 lb wimp RB, who gets tackled by 180 CB's, using their arms only, who couldn't block a high school player, and his great special teams players must code speak for "he can't find anyone to block" even if he is the left side of the 'wedge' because I have sat there several times watching someone run right by him and tackle Mathis. Wells = Waste of a draft pick for a RB. Davis runs harder and is smaller. Neither of them will be noted for their blocking skills though.

03-26-2006	#14
Napa Auto Parts Hall of Fame Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston Age: 35 Posts: 1,186 Rep Power: 15	the worst move made this off season was giving david carr pro bowl money we could of let him hit the free agent market and got him for pennies on the dollar instead of making him the most over paid texan.

03-26-2006	#17
done88 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Clear Lake Age: 36 Posts: 274 Rep Power: 10	We need a resign Wells petition. __________________ Donnie I've adopted Eric Moulds

03-26-2006	#18
Corrosion Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northwest Houston Age: 44 Posts: 27,158 Rep Power: 60779	I concur , Bring back Wells . Special teams Stand Out ..... does all the little things . Kinda reminds me of the things Troy Brown does for the Pats but to a lesser degree .... __________________ I have no tolerance for stupidity.

03-27-2006	#20
Mr Shush Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oxford, England Age: 30 Posts: 176 Rep Power: 9	I'd expect Hollings to be gone before the season starts. If Davis wasn't so early in his contract, we might well look to trade him (not that we'd get all that much - a third if we were really lucky) and go with Wells and Morency alongside Bush. Wells had far more per-play value than Davis last year running, and slightly more receiving. He's also better in blitz pick-up (not that that's a challenge). As it is, the cap hit for trading Davis is far too big, so we've signed Cook to replace Wells' special teams production and Wells will walk.

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