Moulds granted trade permission, will cost $7.1 million - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**gtexan02** · 03-21-2006

What do you guys think about this potential deal? Moulds is a proven NFL commodity and an amazing receiver, but at $7.1 million a year, I think we have more important shoes to fill. Not to mention we supposedly have to give up a pick for him (I could see them taking a 5th or lower)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2378904

tulexan · 03-21-2006

I don't want a guy who is going to complain when he isn't getting the ball like he did this year.

Texas · 03-21-2006

He will get the ball because everytime they DBL AJ...which they will he gets it..or JP...I think he would be a good addition...What kinda of cap hit would 7.1 mill be exactly?

outofhnd · 03-21-2006

A big one but the upside to that is Moulds would consider coming to a team that appears to have a steady direction, He wants a QB that he can have chemistry with because they have had a revolving door in Buffalo.
It would literally be impossible to double one of our receivers with that tandem on the field.

What would we have to trade to compensate Buffalo? His salary would be 7 mil but we dont have anything we can give them in return. If they didnt have McGahee Id offer them DD, and Wade.

Texas · 03-21-2006

A 5th Rd Pick...and Armstrong!

**Double Barrel** · 03-21-2006

He's a nice talent, but probably too rich for the Texan's to take. He would be a good #2 with AJ, though.

Sco-tai · 03-21-2006

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Originally Posted by Texas

A 5th Rd Pick...and Armstrong!

I wish it'd be that cheap.

Personally, I like Armstrong's reliable hands and his CFL numbers. Unfortunately, that didn't seem to translate well enough with Capers and company to get more playing time. We shall see if GK can change all that.

But yeah...AJ on the left, JP at TE, Bush in the right slot and Mould on the far right.

Haha...I can see the DB's shaking already. hahha (dare to dream, I suppose).

Wait...that's right. Carr needs more than 1 1/2 steps to get the ball out.

:brickwall

O-Line should be better. Right?!

outofhnd · 03-21-2006

With that tandem I dont think there would be a No 1 or 2 it would just be whoever was open got the ball. of course they need to get open in a hurry if our protection still doesnt improve.

**gtexan02** · 03-21-2006

Moulds right now on the Billls is a $10million cap hit. If he's traded, about 3 million of that is bonuses, so his base salary of $7 would be paid by us. In that case, all $7 would be against the cap. He might consider restructuring, but who knows. I don't think anyone will pay him $7, but $5 would be a number I'd be willing to work with.

el toro · 03-22-2006

What would've been the cap hit for the deal they offered Givens?

**gtexan02** · 03-22-2006

Givens wanted a 5 year, $25 million deal if I'm not mistaken. About 6-8 of that would have been bonus, therefore his cap hit would have been somewhere between $3 and $4 million

el toro · 03-22-2006

I see. So how much cap space is left?

O.G. · 03-22-2006

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Originally Posted by gtexan02

Givens wanted a 5 year, $25 million deal if I'm not mistaken. About 6-8 of that would have been bonus, therefore his cap hit would have been somewhere between $3 and $4 million

If the Texans did take him, I believe he would restructure. How old is Moulds?

Battle-Red · 03-22-2006

What about Javon Walker? He's in the same situation as Moulds except he's younger and has a smaller contract. And has better numbers than Burleson. But he is looking to get paid not to mention what the Packers are looking for in compensation. He insists that he will not play for them in 2006.

-carrer #'s-------g gs no yards avg lg td 20+ 40+
6-3 215lbs. 4yrs 48 18 157 2444 15.6 79 22 37 11

**PapaL** · 03-22-2006

No point in trading for Moulds and absorbing any cap hit. The guy will get cut soon. They asked to to restructure, he said no. He asked for a trade, they said go find one. He'll be cut soon enough and could be signed for a reasonable rate. Not worth $7.1M, he is not that player anymore.

**gtexan02** · 03-22-2006

Yeah, this is Jamie Sharper all over again. He wanted more than we would give him, we tried to shop him, no takers, so June 1st=cut. I'm guessing it will be the same with Moulds

Kookus · 03-22-2006

Too expensive, too old, and over rated, let him go to Big D and team up with TO and Bledsoe, they deserve him.

keyfro · 03-22-2006

if we have to trade to get him here's what i would do...get them to restructure his deal to be cap friendly this year as we do the same for todd wade then trade wade to buffulo along with our 5th round pick for moulds

AlexVanderpool · 03-22-2006

He is the only WR avaliable that can immediately stop AJ from getting double and triple teamed. I say make the trade in a heartbeat. Burleson would be the only other option, but he wouldnt have the impact that moulds would.

Im not big on using the draft to find our #2 WR. Drafting WRs is such a crapshoot, as it usually takes them a few years to develop.

el toro · 03-22-2006

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Originally Posted by AlexVanderpool

He is the only WR avaliable that can immediately stop AJ from getting double and triple teamed. I say make the trade in a heartbeat. Burleson would be the only other option, but he wouldnt have the impact that moulds would.

Im not big on using the draft to find our #2 WR. Drafting WRs is such a crapshoot, as it usually takes them a few years to develop.

They'll have AJ, Walter, Putzier and the ability to line up Bush in the slot. That's 4 receivers going downfield. Davis in the backfield would help to keep the D honest.

03-21-2006	#1
gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,334 Rep Power: 34917	Moulds granted trade permission, will cost $7.1 million What do you guys think about this potential deal? Moulds is a proven NFL commodity and an amazing receiver, but at $7.1 million a year, I think we have more important shoes to fill. Not to mention we supposedly have to give up a pick for him (I could see them taking a 5th or lower) http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2378904 __________________ Adios until next season. See you then

03-21-2006	#4
outofhnd All Pro Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 36 Posts: 723 Rep Power: 9	A big one but the upside to that is Moulds would consider coming to a team that appears to have a steady direction, He wants a QB that he can have chemistry with because they have had a revolving door in Buffalo. It would literally be impossible to double one of our receivers with that tandem on the field. What would we have to trade to compensate Buffalo? His salary would be 7 mil but we dont have anything we can give them in return. If they didnt have McGahee Id offer them DD, and Wade. __________________ Where have all the Running backs gone?

03-21-2006	#6
Double Barrel Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Section: Gridiron, Texas Age: 46 Posts: 27,104 Rep Power: 82704	He's a nice talent, but probably too rich for the Texan's to take. He would be a good #2 with AJ, though. __________________ "FOOTBALL IS ONLY A DIVERSION." ~ HOUSTON TEXANS In Memoriam - 20 little angels

03-21-2006	#8
outofhnd All Pro Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 36 Posts: 723 Rep Power: 9	With that tandem I dont think there would be a No 1 or 2 it would just be whoever was open got the ball. of course they need to get open in a hurry if our protection still doesnt improve. __________________ Where have all the Running backs gone?

03-21-2006	#9
gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,334 Rep Power: 34917	Moulds right now on the Billls is a $10million cap hit. If he's traded, about 3 million of that is bonuses, so his base salary of $7 would be paid by us. In that case, all $7 would be against the cap. He might consider restructuring, but who knows. I don't think anyone will pay him $7, but $5 would be a number I'd be willing to work with. __________________ Adios until next season. See you then

03-21-2006	#2
tulexan Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 5,080 Rep Power: 26	I don't want a guy who is going to complain when he isn't getting the ball like he did this year.

03-21-2006	#3
Texas Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Clear Lake Age: 24 Posts: 1,030 Rep Power: 9	He will get the ball because everytime they DBL AJ...which they will he gets it..or JP...I think he would be a good addition...What kinda of cap hit would 7.1 mill be exactly?

03-22-2006	#10
el toro All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 509 Rep Power: 8	What would've been the cap hit for the deal they offered Givens?

03-22-2006	#14
Battle-Red Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	What about Javon Walker? He's in the same situation as Moulds except he's younger and has a smaller contract. And has better numbers than Burleson. But he is looking to get paid not to mention what the Packers are looking for in compensation. He insists that he will not play for them in 2006. -carrer #'s-------g gs no yards avg lg td 20+ 40+ 6-3 215lbs. 4yrs 48 18 157 2444 15.6 79 22 37 11 Last edited by Battle-Red; 03-22-2006 at 07:19 AM.

03-22-2006	#15
PapaL Loose Screw Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 8,651 Rep Power: 17130	No point in trading for Moulds and absorbing any cap hit. The guy will get cut soon. They asked to to restructure, he said no. He asked for a trade, they said go find one. He'll be cut soon enough and could be signed for a reasonable rate. Not worth $7.1M, he is not that player anymore. __________________ Tried and true, I'm rep'in Texan (Steel) Blue.

03-22-2006	#17
Kookus Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 48 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Too expensive, too old, and over rated, let him go to Big D and team up with TO and Bledsoe, they deserve him. __________________ "Dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy.." - Josey Wales

03-22-2006	#18
keyfro Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 13	if we have to trade to get him here's what i would do...get them to restructure his deal to be cap friendly this year as we do the same for todd wade then trade wade to buffulo along with our 5th round pick for moulds __________________ With the 10th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Houston Texans select...?????

03-22-2006	#19
AlexVanderpool Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 120 Rep Power: 10	He is the only WR avaliable that can immediately stop AJ from getting double and triple teamed. I say make the trade in a heartbeat. Burleson would be the only other option, but he wouldnt have the impact that moulds would. Im not big on using the draft to find our #2 WR. Drafting WRs is such a crapshoot, as it usually takes them a few years to develop.

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