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Old 03-18-2006   #1
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Default Official Wonderlic scores released to teams....

The official scores from the Wonderlic Tests taken at the combine were released. As usual, there were some interesting results. Texas QB Vince Young did indeed take the test twice. The league has been tight-lipped regarding his first score, but the higher score of his two attempts was a 15. Young's score was bad, but not the worst of this year's quarterback class. That honor goes to Virginia Tech's Marcus Vick, who scored an 11 on the test.

A perfect score is 50, and the highest score any player posted in this year's class was a 41 (Oklahoma DT Dusty Dvoracek). The lowest score of this year's class was an eight (Syracuse DE Kader Drame, Alabama ILB Freddie Roach, Louisville DT Montavious Stanley, N.C. State TE T.J. Williams and Oklahoma DC Chijioke Onyenegecha), and the average score of all the quarterbacks was a 24.6.

The Wonderlic Personnel Test (WPT) is a short-form intelligence test that measures players' ability to think on their feet, follow directions and make effective decisions under pressure. While Young and Vick exposed their weaknesses in those areas, other quarterbacks shined. Grambling's Bruce Eugene (41), Montana State's Travis Lulay (37), USC's Matt Leinart (35) and Oregon's Kellen Clemens (35) all posted impressive scores.

Prospects at other positions who excelled include Ohio State OC Nick Mangold (35), Tulsa TE/FB Garrett Mills (35), Oregon LB Keith Ellison (36), Cal-Poly State DE Chris Gocong (36), Cornell OL Kevin Boothe (37), Virginia WR Marques Hagans (37), Stanford DT Babatunde Oshinowo (37) and Boston College OT Jeremy Trueblood (37).

Others didn't fare so well, such as Penn State DC Alan Zemaitis (9), Marshall DC Chris Hawkins (10), Miami DE Javon Nanton (10), South Carolina DS Ko Simpson (10), Central Missouri State WR Delanie Walker (10), Syracuse DE James Wyche (10), LSU WR/RS Skyler Green (11), Tennessee DB Jason Allen (11), Clemson DE Charles Bennett (11), Abilene Christian DB Danieal Manning (12), Texas Tech DS Dwayne Slay (12), South Florida RB Andre Hall (13), Pittsburgh DC Josh Lay (13), UCLA TE Marcedes Lewis (13), Mississippi State RB Jerious Norwood (13) and Tarleton State RB Derrick Ross (13).
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bruce eugene is looking better and better...huge, 41 on the wonderlic, fast, beast of an arm...impossible to sack...yeah, i want him in the 6th
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The official scores from the Wonderlic Tests taken at the combine were released. As usual, there were some interesting results. Texas QB Vince Young did indeed take the test twice. The league has been tight-lipped regarding his first score, but the higher score of his two attempts was a 15. Young's score was bad, but not the worst of this year's quarterback class. That honor goes to Virginia Tech's Marcus Vick, who scored an 11 on the test.

A perfect score is 50, and the highest score any player posted in this year's class was a 41 (Oklahoma DT Dusty Dvoracek). The lowest score of this year's class was an eight (Syracuse DE Kader Drame, Alabama ILB Freddie Roach, Louisville DT Montavious Stanley, N.C. State TE T.J. Williams and Oklahoma DC Chijioke Onyenegecha), and the average score of all the quarterbacks was a 24.6.

Others didn't fare so well, such as Penn State DC Alan Zemaitis (9), Marshall DC Chris Hawkins (10), Miami DE Javon Nanton (10), South Carolina DS Ko Simpson (10), Central Missouri State WR Delanie Walker (10), Syracuse DE James Wyche (10), LSU WR/RS Skyler Green (11), Tennessee DB Jason Allen (11), Clemson DE Charles Bennett (11), Abilene Christian DB Danieal Manning (12), Texas Tech DS Dwayne Slay (12), South Florida RB Andre Hall (13), Pittsburgh DC Josh Lay (13), UCLA TE Marcedes Lewis (13), Mississippi State RB Jerious Norwood (13) and Tarleton State RB Derrick Ross (13).

TYPO^..im reliably informed VY did in fact score 51 on his 2nd attempt.

seriously though alot of guys who've been touted on this MB did badly- how are they such dumbasses- yeah its not that important but its part of the process and a bad score can have a negative effect on what position you're taken at, so i dont know how they cant take it seriously, if thats the problem
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In a way I'm glad Ko did bad, maybe he'll fall to us at the beginning of the second round now
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From what I heard Vick only took the test once, so his 11 on his first try is still better than Vince's 6.

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FYI on Bruce Eugene, he ran a sub 5.10 in the 40, hardly fast at all. He did put up a nice wonderlic teast though and looks like a shorter, slower version of Daunte Culpepper, and not as talented either. I don't see much point in us drafting him.
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In a way I'm glad Ko did bad, maybe he'll fall to us at the beginning of the second round now

Thats what im talking about.

All of these top prospects need to be pushed down.
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Thats what im talking about.

All of these top prospects need to be pushed down.
I doubt a lower wonderlic score matters much for safeties in the grand scheme of things. I think QBs is the only position that teams would pay much attention to since they are generally the leader of the team, they touch the ball every play and they have the greatest responsibility in running the offense, but even still a low wonderlic score isn't generally going to cause a team to not draft someone and a high wonderlic score isn't generally going to cause a team to draft someone that they otherwise would not have picked.
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No one asked. Did Bush take the Wonderlic? And if he did, what did he get? Just curious....
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Need to give the site credit. A link to the article would've be great. Seemed like you either has "inside info" or passing it off as made up.
I checked their website to try to confirm it and it looked like it was an ESPN Insider article so only people with Insider can read it.

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No one asked. Did Bush take the Wonderlic? And if he did, what did he get? Just curious....
I asked a buddy of mine that has access to such info and he said it was in the low 20s.
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Need to give the site credit. A link to the article would've be great. Seemed like you either has "inside info" or passing it off as made up.
90% of message boards dont allow insider articles posted. So I posted like this so people could actually read it. Im new here and dont know how it works on this site. Personally I think it is dumb that some moderators care that it is from a pay site...it isnt their site. But whatever, do u really NEED a link to believe someone?? fine...

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...CMP=ILC-INHEAD
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90% of message boards dont allow insider articles posted. So I posted like this so people could actually read it. Im new here and dont know how it works on this site. Personally I think it is dumb that some moderators care that it is from a pay site...it isnt their site. But whatever, do u really NEED a link to believe someone?? fine...

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...CMP=ILC-INHEAD

We do not fully republish protected © here at this site since we do not want a lawsuit. Quote an article (please do not copy and paste an entire article) and provide a link so we can verify it, and yes, I really do need that link thankyouverymuch. This isn't a moderator policy....they do what they are told.
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We do not fully republish protected here at this site since we do not want a lawsuit. Quote an article (please do not copy and paste an entire article) and provide a link so we can verify it, and yes, I really do need that link thankyouverymuch. This isn't a moderator policy....they do what they are told.
ok, well this was just a paragraph of a very long article, not fully republished....



And I can assure you ESPN has bigger fish to fry than stopping 3rd parties from posting on an NFL message board...
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[quote=MorKnolle]I doubt a lower wonderlic score matters much for safeties in the grand scheme of things.

Just want to ask you do you really want your last line of defense making stupid decisions and giving up touchdowns??

I would say that apart from the linebacker calling the defense no one needs more intelligence......
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A perfect score is 50, and the highest score any player posted in this year's class was a 41 (Oklahoma DT Dusty Dvoracek).
suprising. he really caught my eye during the combine because he just looked crazy. everyone else looked like football players ... he looked like a 300lb romanowski with worse intentions when he lined up for his 40. then after reading up on him i find that he's got issues with alcohol and fighting, and has had to receive anger management counseling ... and scores highest on the wonderlic. i'd sign him!
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i see what you're saying vinny but i visit 3 other sites regularly and you're allowed to post any insider info. like somebody said espn arent likely to care much about the odd bit of insider info posted on a MB
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ok, well this was just a paragraph of a very long article, not fully republished....



And I can assure you ESPN has bigger fish to fry than stopping 3rd parties from posting on an NFL message board...
I can assure you that if you do not follow our simple rules you won't be allowed to participate. I never said you couldn't post a quote.

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i see what you're saying vinny but i visit 3 other sites regularly and you're allowed to post any insider info. like somebody said espn arent likely to care much about the odd bit of insider info posted on a MB
The Texans only own this site so we really aren't worried about the policies of other message boards.
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