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Old 03-16-2006   #1
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The more I think about it, I really like what Gary Kubiak is doing. He's sending a CLEAR message that if you don't perform you are GONE!

Marcus Coleman - GONE
Gary Walker - GONE
Milford Brown - GONE
Jabar Gaffney - GONE
Corey Bradford - GONE
Tony Hollings - GONE
Tony Banks - GONE

What do all of these guys have in common? They were all underachievers. And yes I know alot of you are going to come back with "what about David Carr", but since Kubiak's specialty is QB, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Lets face it, we were 2-14 and most of those players were with us from the beginning. So lets trim the fat, start fresh and look to the future! And I highly doubt any of these departures (Gaffney & Bradford included) weren't intentional. I believe if they wanted either of those guys back, they wouldn't have had any problems signing them. Kubes obviously thinks we'd be better off without them.

Keep it going Gary!!!
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Jabar Gaffney did prove he could do it and he still is gone. Maybe he's sending a mixed message?
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Unfortunately Gaff is gone, but I agree with the rest. My understanding is that Rosenhaus was playing hardball and wanted more than the Texans were willing to give Gaff, but that is just what I am hearing.

Wish him luck with the Eagles, though, and I wish we had used the guy for what he brought to the table when he was here.
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Yea..I think he will be a star for the eagles...Him and mcnabb will collab good
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I think lito sheppard had alot to do with gaff signing with the eagles as well, cause lito and gaff are cousins and everything. but i really liked gaff, and it sucks to see him gone, but good luck gaff, do your thing brah!
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Unfortunately Gaff is gone, but I agree with the rest. My understanding is that Rosenhaus was playing hardball and wanted more than the Texans were willing to give Gaff, but that is just what I am hearing.

Wish him luck with the Eagles, though, and I wish we had used the guy for what he brought to the table when he was here.
Well, he couldn't have gotten that good of a deal if he's only signed for 1 year. It'll be interesting to what kind of money he got.
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Gaffney was a #3 quality receiver looking for #2 receiver money.
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The more I think about it, I really like what Gary Kubiak is doing. He's sending a CLEAR message that if you don't perform you are GONE!

Marcus Coleman - GONE
Gary Walker - GONE
Milford Brown - GONE
Jabar Gaffney - GONE
Corey Bradford - GONE
Tony Hollings - GONE
Tony Banks - GONE

What do all of these guys have in common? They were all underachievers. And yes I know alot of you are going to come back with "what about David Carr", but since Kubiak's specialty is QB, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Lets face it, we were 2-14 and most of those players were with us from the beginning. So lets trim the fat, start fresh and look to the future! And I highly doubt any of these departures (Gaffney & Bradford included) weren't intentional. I believe if they wanted either of those guys back, they wouldn't have had any problems signing them. Kubes obviously thinks we'd be better off without them.

Keep it going Gary!!!
So how do you explain the only time we have ever won 3 games in a five game stretch was when most of these guys were on the field and Carr was not?
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So how do you explain the only time we have ever won 3 games in a five game stretch was when most of these guys were on the field and Carr was not?

Wasn't the 3rd win in that stretch over the Falcons? And didn't Carr take over for an injured Banks?

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/...031130_ATL@HOU

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Carr, playing in obvious pain, led a 63-yard drive on the Texans' first possession of the second half, getting 36 yards himself with a Vick-like run to the Atlanta 22. Davis ran untouched for a 7-yard touchdown and a 10-7 lead for the Texans (5-7).
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according to this ...

http://www.nfl.com/teams/schedule/HOU/2004

we won 4 out of 5 .... and Carr was on the field for each ...
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according to this ...

http://www.nfl.com/teams/schedule/HOU/2004

we won 4 out of 5 .... and Carr was on the field for each ...
I flew from California to see the Minnesota game (the only L in that aforementioned stretch)... we should have won that but ironically, the secondary blew coverage on consecutive plays.

Carr rallied the team from a 21-0 halftime deficit in the 2nd half to force OT. We should have won the game in the 4th qtr as well but thanks to a blown play somewhere (I forget why) we didn't.

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according to this ...

http://www.nfl.com/teams/schedule/HOU/2004

we won 4 out of 5 .... and Carr was on the field for each ...
Also, Carr had one of his best games and, correct me if I'm wrong, but had two 100 yard receivers that game....one was 'Dre and the other was not Gaffney but Armstrong.
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Only the F.O. knows how hard they tried to sign Gaffney . I thought he was very inconsistent , but you can say that about the whole team the last 4 years .

Its probably not a bad idea to purge the team and start fresh just to get out that loosing stench .
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according to this ...

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we won 4 out of 5 .... and Carr was on the field for each ...
Shhh with those pesky facts. Seriously folks, stop trying to give Banks credit for the win over Atlanta--the Texans were losing when he left the game.
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What about Jason Babin??????????????????
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Shhh with those pesky facts. Seriously folks, stop trying to give Banks credit for the win over Atlanta--the Texans were losing when he left the game.

Exactly .... and Carr came in HURT only to lead the team to victory .... Anyone else remember the 15 or so yard scramble he took off on .... It didnt end with a hook slide but a head first lunge for the first down ... taking a pretty good lick in the process .

I'd like to think that is the player Carr is .... Not what we saw last season while he was handcuffed with a mickey mouse offense and rediculously poor pass protection.
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Unfortunately Gaff is gone, but I agree with the rest. My understanding is that Rosenhaus was playing hardball and wanted more than the Texans were willing to give Gaff, but that is just what I am hearing.
eeek, The Gaffer is represented by Rosenhaus, that's enough reason for me to want him out of town. Rosenhaus is a pest, I wish we NEVER EVER have one of his players on our team. So someone tell me, according to my philosophy, how many players should get fired now ?
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eeek, The Gaffer is represented by Rosenhaus, that's enough reason for me to want him out of town. Rosenhaus is a pest, I wish we NEVER EVER have one of his players on our team. So someone tell me, according to my philosophy, how many players should get fired now ?
Scott Boras and Drew Rosenhaus should fight each other. The loser dies, the winner has to quit being an agent altogether! Perfect for everyone
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Unfortunately Gaff is gone, but I agree with the rest. My understanding is that Rosenhaus was playing hardball and wanted more than the Texans were willing to give Gaff, but that is just what I am hearing.

Wish him luck with the Eagles, though, and I wish we had used the guy for what he brought to the table when he was here.
I can understand that with Rosenhaus...... but I'd like to see what the Eagles gave him first....
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Exactly .... and Carr came in HURT only to lead the team to victory .... Anyone else remember the 15 or so yard scramble he took off on .... It didnt end with a hook slide but a head first lunge for the first down ... taking a pretty good lick in the process .

I'd like to think that is the player Carr is .... Not what we saw last season while he was handcuffed with a mickey mouse offense and rediculously poor pass protection.
I admit, I have to get TiVo or something, because I seem to only remember the bad stuff....
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