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Old 03-15-2006   #1
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If Kubiak drafts anything like the Broncos did when he was there then our safest pick would be to stand pat and take Bush. Take a look at the first 2 rounds of all the drafts from 2000 on. It isn't terrible but it is enough to cause one to worry a little.

2005
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2-56 Darrent Williams Broncos DB Oklahoma State

2004
1-17 D.J. Williams Broncos LB Miami (FL)
2-54 Darius Watts Broncos WR Marshall

2003
1-20 George Foster Broncos T Georgia
2-51 Terry Pierce Broncos LB Kansas State (now a Texan)

2002
1-19 Ashley Lelie Broncos WR Hawaii
2-51 Clinton Portis Broncos RB Miami (FL) (stud)

2001
1-24 Willie Middlebrooks Broncos DB Minnesota
2-51 Paul Toviessi Broncos DE Marshall

2000
1-15 Deltha O'Neal Broncos DB California
2-40 Ian Gold Broncos DB Michigan
3-45 Kenoy Kennedy Broncos DB Arkansas
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Terry Pierce??? I didn't know we got him. Was he waived or what? I really don't know that much about him so is he any good?
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And you are saying these are bad drafts? Considering that NO team bats 1000, and that the Broncos draft in the lower end of each round as a general rule, I would gave this an overall B+ to A-. I'm not sure what you are trying to insuinate, but this is a reach. Besides that, do you really think Kubiak ran their drafts or something? I'm clueless here. Someone help me.
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Maybe you could also list better players that he bypassed and that did better than the Denver pick. That seems only fair.
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And you are saying these are bad drafts? Considering that NO team bats 1000, and that the Broncos draft in the lower end of each round as a general rule, I would gave this an overall B+ to A-. I'm not sure what you are trying to insuinate, but this is a reach. Besides that, do you really think Kubiak ran their drafts or something? I'm clueless here. Someone help me.

I didn't say they were bad drafts but I think you are over rating them with a B+ or A- Porky. Try not to over react with your replies Porky. This is a forum for diverse opinions. I am saying Bush at #1 is the safest pick rather than trading down too far where we end up with a bigger chance at a bust. I do think the Broncos could have drafted better than they have over this time period.
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Being a huge Bronco fan i will help you guys rate these players alittle better.

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If Kubiak drafts anything like the Broncos did when he was there then our safest pick would be to stand pat and take Bush. Take a look at the first 2 rounds of all the drafts from 2000 on. It isn't terrible but it is enough to cause one to worry a little.

2005
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2-56 Darrent Williams Broncos DB Oklahoma State I think we know the story on him. Started his rookie year, held down the opposite end from Champ. This says alot because you know teams were picking on him. I give him an A+

2004
1-17 D.J. Williams Broncos LB Miami (FL) He also started his rookie year and took over for Ian Gold after he left for a year to go to Tampa. Very solid player, he is fast had a great tackler. I give him a B+.
2-54 Darius Watts Broncos WR Marshall Never really caught on. Had alot of potential has a rookie. Didn't do much. I give him a D-

2003
1-20 George Foster Broncos T Georgia Became a full time starter in 2004. Decent right tackle. Took him a year to learn Denver's system. I give him a B+
2-51 Terry Pierce Broncos LB Kansas State (now a Texan) This guy was a great back up LB. He filled in great in 2004 when Denver lost John Mobley. Not sure how he would of been as a full time starter. He is a C+

2002
1-19 Ashley Lelie Broncos WR Hawaii He is a great deep threat. Led the league in 2004 with the most TD of 20+ yards. Matter of fact all his TDs that year were for 20+ yards. I still feel though that he is a better 3rd WR then a number 2 guy. I give him B+
2-51 Clinton Portis Broncos RB Miami (FL) (stud) Homerun hitter. I give him a A

2001
1-24 Willie Middlebrooks Broncos DB Minnesota Dud
2-51 Paul Toviessi Broncos DE Marshall Dud

2000
1-15 Deltha O'Neal Broncos DB California Came into his own last year in Cinnci. He has really shown his potential. Had a couple good years in Denver with a great year last year in Cinnci. He likes to take chances making it easier for him to get burned. I give him a B- for now.
2-40 Ian Gold Broncos DB Michigan Solid. I give him a B.
3-45 Kenoy Kennedy Broncos DB Arkansas Solid. I give him a B.
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Terry Pierce??? I didn't know we got him. Was he waived or what? I really don't know that much about him so is he any good?
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I am saying Bush at #1 is the safest pick rather than trading down too far where we end up with a bigger chance at a bust.
Statistically speaking of course, the safest 1st round pick is OL. I can't remember what site I went to that had draft stats for the past 10 years of the draft. It was very interesting to say the least.
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If Kubiak drafts anything like the Broncos did when he was there then our safest pick would be to stand pat and take Bush. Take a look at the first 2 rounds of all the drafts from 2000 on. It isn't terrible but it is enough to cause one to worry a little.

2005
1-none
2-56 Darrent Williams Broncos DB Oklahoma State

2004
1-17 D.J. Williams Broncos LB Miami (FL)
2-54 Darius Watts Broncos WR Marshall

2003
1-20 George Foster Broncos T Georgia
2-51 Terry Pierce Broncos LB Kansas State (now a Texan)

2002
1-19 Ashley Lelie Broncos WR Hawaii
2-51 Clinton Portis Broncos RB Miami (FL) (stud)

2001
1-24 Willie Middlebrooks Broncos DB Minnesota
2-51 Paul Toviessi Broncos DE Marshall

2000
1-15 Deltha O'Neal Broncos DB California
2-40 Ian Gold Broncos DB Michigan
3-45 Kenoy Kennedy Broncos DB Arkansas
ok a few things- why dont you tell us who this years busts will be and we wont pick them. ok? this is a pretty impressive draft list-bar 2001 so that point isnt that strong. im sure shanahan made the final decisions anyway- and do you remember that kubiak was an OFFENSIVE CO-ORDINATOR so probably only had input on the offensive players taken in denver,which bar (edit: and clarett of course who isnt mentioned) and watts-who still is their slot receiver, cant be considered a bust making that list all the more impressive

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