Robaire Smith - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Doom Capers · 03-12-2006

What are we doing with Robaire? It says Peek and Babin will compete for right end and Weaver will be left end. What is Robaire doing? This guy is a hard worker and plays a lot harder than most of the people on defense. Any idea what we are doing with him?

bigTEXan8 · 03-12-2006

He'll play DT along with TJ.

Doom Capers · 03-12-2006

Ohhhhh awesome. So has/is Payne being released? He just got an extension.

**mancunian** · 03-12-2006

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Originally Posted by Doom Capers

Ohhhhh awesome. So has/is Payne being released? He just got an extension.

no Payne will be part of the DT rotation. Texans still need other DE's.

MorKnolle · 03-12-2006

As of now Robaire and Payne will be the starting DTs, presumably Peek and Weaver (if we actually signed him, which I've still yet to see confirmed other than a Chronicle article and a spinoff article on ESPN, but no mention on our website, on the feeder on ESPN, or the actual transaction pages on ESPN.com, NFL.com, or CNNSI.com) will start at DE with Babin getting some time off the bench too. If we're paying Weaver that much money (much more than he's worth) he's definitely going to be a starting DE, hopefully he's not really getting that much and they'll consider cutting Payne and moving Weaver inside to DT where he is a better fit rather than having a guy at DE that is a pretty good run stopper but basically a non-factor in the pass rush. Mario will likely excel in both run support and pass rush and I would easily take him at #1, but if we did sign WEaver for the reported amount it's looking less likely we go for Mario.

Trenches · 03-12-2006

So we spent a high first round pick on Travis Johnson last year and he cant beat out Robair Smith or Seth Payne?

MorKnolle · 03-12-2006

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So we spent a high first round pick on Travis Johnson last year and he cant beat out Robair Smith or Seth Payne?

Yes, definitely one of the worst decisions by our former staff. He has done nothing to put himself in the starting lineup over Smith or Payne.

**Trap_Star** · 03-12-2006

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Originally Posted by MorKnolle

As of now Robaire and Payne will be the starting DTs, presumably Peek and Weaver (if we actually signed him, which I've still yet to see confirmed other than a Chronicle article and a spinoff article on ESPN, but no mention on our website, on the feeder on ESPN, or the actual transaction pages on ESPN.com, NFL.com, or CNNSI.com) will start at DE with Babin getting some time off the bench too. If we're paying Weaver that much money (much more than he's worth) he's definitely going to be a starting DE, hopefully he's not really getting that much and they'll consider cutting Payne and moving Weaver inside to DT where he is a better fit rather than having a guy at DE that is a pretty good run stopper but basically a non-factor in the pass rush. Mario will likely excel in both run support and pass rush and I would easily take him at #1, but if we did sign WEaver for the reported amount it's looking less likely we go for Mario.

Dude, are you serious??????? WEAVER AT DT????? You must REALLY want Mario Williams........

YoungTexanFan · 03-12-2006

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Dude, are you serious??????? WEAVER AT DT????? You must REALLY want Mario Williams........

on pass rushing downs in the 4-3, he moves inside to DT because he can't really pressure the QB. This is what they did in Baltimore with him. He is a DE/DT even in the 4-3. Its not as obsurd as you make it out to be.

**Trap_Star** · 03-12-2006

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

on pass rushing downs in the 4-3, he moves inside to DT because he can't really pressure the QB. This is what they did in Baltimore with him. He is a DE/DT even in the 4-3. Its not as obsurd as you make it out to be.

Yeah, thats why he has an amazing number of sacks in his 4 year career.....14.5.......

YoungTexanFan · 03-12-2006

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Yeah, thats why he has an amazing number of sacks in his 4 year career.....14.5.......

Your arguing against yourself now.

He moves to DT from DE so they can put a "Peek" kind of guy on the field. They know his obvious weakness and do not let it be exploited more than it needs to be.

If he put up 14.5 a year, he would stay at DE. Since he puts up 4.5 a year or so, he is considered a liability on passing downs.

MorKnolle · 03-12-2006

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

Your arguing against yourself now.

He moves to DT from DE so they can put a "Peek" kind of guy on the field. They know his obvious weakness and do not let it be exploited more than it needs to be.

If he put up 14.5 a year, he would stay at DE. Since he puts up 4.5 a year or so, he is considered a liability on passing downs.

Exactly what I was getting at. He might need to gain a little weight to be a full-time DT if that's what they plan on doing, but if he is really getting $26.5 million for 5 years I doubt they plan to have him play DT.

**Trap_Star** · 03-12-2006

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

Your arguing against yourself now.

He moves to DT from DE so they can put a "Peek" kind of guy on the field. They know his obvious weakness and do not let it be exploited more than it needs to be.

If he put up 14.5 a year, he would stay at DE. Since he puts up 4.5 a year or so, he is considered a liability on passing downs.

Peek is already going to start on the other side, with Babin coming off the bench.

If Weaver gets put in at DT, he will get put on his back faster than Paris Hilton infront of a video-camera....

Bubbajwp · 03-12-2006

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Originally Posted by H-Texan7_5

Peek is already going to start on the other side, with Babin coming off the bench.

If Weaver gets put in at DT, he will get put on his back faster than Paris Hilton infront of a video-camera....

I wouldnt garuntee that peek is going to start at DE yet. He still needs to gain some more weight

YoungTexanFan · 03-12-2006

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Originally Posted by H-Texan7_5

Peek is already going to start on the other side, with Babin coming off the bench.

If Weaver gets put in at DT, he will get put on his back faster than Paris Hilton infront of a video-camera....

Right now, unless you have an insider, and judging by your comments you dont, its still a toss up for WDE.

Babin actually appears to be the front runner, not peek. Weaver is a big guy already, who is very good at stopping the run. He'd be a good 3-4 DE.

Coach C. · 03-12-2006

YTF usually I agree with you, but Peek is the front runner right now for WDE. He is penciled in right now, but Babin does have a shot. The LB coach and D-line coach are both fighting for Peek and it looks like the D-line coach is going to win this one.

TexansTrueFan · 03-12-2006

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Originally Posted by H-Texan7_5

Peek is already going to start on the other side, with Babin coming off the bench.

If Weaver gets put in at DT, he will get put on his back faster than Paris Hilton infront of a video-camera....

come on now everything at this point is all speculation, i wouldnt gurantee anyone is gonna be starting, not until they prove something to the new coach, and they havent started yet.

**Vinny** · 03-12-2006

Peek is OBVIOUSLY our WDE right now or we would not have given out that mid level tender. Robaire Smith will have to stop disappearing in games for long stretches for me to warm up to him. He will rise up vs the Titans and bat a few balls down but he will go for games without ever getting his name called.

**Trap_Star** · 03-12-2006

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Originally Posted by Vinny

Peek is OBVIOUSLY our WDE right now or we would not have given out that mid level tender. Robaire Smith will have to stop disappearing in games for long stretches for me to warm up to him. He will rise up vs the Titans and bat a few balls down but he will go for games without ever getting his name called.

Good stuff, Vinny......

Coach C. · 03-12-2006

Vinny in the titans 43 defense Robaire played quite well. Other than that I agree that he has to step up other than against Tennessee.

03-12-2006	#2
bigTEXan8 All Pro Join Date: May 2005 Location: The 'No, CA Age: 30 Posts: 919 Rep Power: 9	... He'll play DT along with TJ. __________________ The Lord is my refuge and strength, an ever present help in trouble.

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Doom Capers Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 434 Rep Power: 10	Ohhhhh awesome. So has/is Payne being released? He just got an extension. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/justinofdoom http://groups.myspace.com/garykubiak

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Coach C. Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SE Houston Posts: 1,422 Rep Power: 10	YTF usually I agree with you, but Peek is the front runner right now for WDE. He is penciled in right now, but Babin does have a shot. The LB coach and D-line coach are both fighting for Peek and it looks like the D-line coach is going to win this one. __________________ "Inconsistency is the only thing in which men are consistent" — Horace Smith. 12-7 Aggies!!!

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Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Peek is OBVIOUSLY our WDE right now or we would not have given out that mid level tender. Robaire Smith will have to stop disappearing in games for long stretches for me to warm up to him. He will rise up vs the Titans and bat a few balls down but he will go for games without ever getting his name called. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

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Coach C. Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SE Houston Posts: 1,422 Rep Power: 10	Vinny in the titans 43 defense Robaire played quite well. Other than that I agree that he has to step up other than against Tennessee. __________________ "Inconsistency is the only thing in which men are consistent" — Horace Smith. 12-7 Aggies!!!

03-12-2006	#1
Doom Capers Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 434 Rep Power: 10	Robaire Smith What are we doing with Robaire? It says Peek and Babin will compete for right end and Weaver will be left end. What is Robaire doing? This guy is a hard worker and plays a lot harder than most of the people on defense. Any idea what we are doing with him? __________________ http://www.myspace.com/justinofdoom http://groups.myspace.com/garykubiak

03-12-2006	#5
MorKnolle Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,210 Rep Power: 0	As of now Robaire and Payne will be the starting DTs, presumably Peek and Weaver (if we actually signed him, which I've still yet to see confirmed other than a Chronicle article and a spinoff article on ESPN, but no mention on our website, on the feeder on ESPN, or the actual transaction pages on ESPN.com, NFL.com, or CNNSI.com) will start at DE with Babin getting some time off the bench too. If we're paying Weaver that much money (much more than he's worth) he's definitely going to be a starting DE, hopefully he's not really getting that much and they'll consider cutting Payne and moving Weaver inside to DT where he is a better fit rather than having a guy at DE that is a pretty good run stopper but basically a non-factor in the pass rush. Mario will likely excel in both run support and pass rush and I would easily take him at #1, but if we did sign WEaver for the reported amount it's looking less likely we go for Mario.

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Trenches Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 171 Rep Power: 8	So we spent a high first round pick on Travis Johnson last year and he cant beat out Robair Smith or Seth Payne?

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