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Old 03-11-2006   #1
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Default OK so now its a choice between D'brick and Reggie

now that we've got weaver and passed on schaffer-the only serviceable LT(that isnt 30+), i presume that rules mario out of our plans and makes it a straight choice between reggie and D'brick. i think we'll take reggie and hope winston or justice falll to #33
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now that we've got weaver and passed on schaffer-the only serviceable LT(that isnt 30+), i presume that rules mario out of our plans and makes it a straight choice between reggie and D'brick. i think we'll take reggie and hope winston or justice falll to #33
Neiter will fall..........its D'BRICK all the way....
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you never know..they're are alot of varying mock out there. from 15 on its a toss up..lots of talented cbs,wrs,lbs and safeties some1 will have to fall
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now that we've got weaver and passed on schaffer-the only serviceable LT(that isnt 30+), i presume that rules mario out of our plans and makes it a straight choice between reggie and D'brick. i think we'll take reggie and hope winston or justice falll to #33


good observation or hope it is pretty much a guarantee that we will get a talented Tackle in the draft with out wasting the 1st overall on one since it seems unlikely the texans will find a suitor. but here is what is going to happen texans Draft reggie Bush and with the 1st pick in the second round i guarantee their is going to be one of the four other tackles for us one of them is going to slide it might be Eric Winston, Winston Justice, Jonathan scott ,and last but not be forgotten marcus Mcneil we will get a solid OT.
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you never know..they're are alot of varying mock out there. from 15 on its a toss up..lots of talented cbs,wrs,lbs and safeties some1 will have to fall

Eric Winston pretty much is lock to be a first rounder with his performance at the combine.... Winston Justice is already considered a top 15 pick. If we take Bush, we might have a shot at E.Winston but we would have to trade back into the first........
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i still hope to get a trade but NO taking brees will screw that up. if that happens a trade-down is too dodgy imo unless its some1 like miami that takes it(ie.for leinart)
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i still hope to get a trade but NO taking brees will screw that up. if that happens a trade-down is too dodgy imo unless its some1 like miami that takes it(ie.for leinart)
There is still a chance that we trade with the Titans...They want a QB...They tried getting Culpepper but failed...im convinced that they are targeting either Leinart or Bush.....
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^their GM said they weren't that interested in pep because they were 'satisfied' their qb roster. so they're probably after the same targets as us ..bush,dbrick,mario. lets say we trade down to 4 the first 3 picks barring no trades could very well be-bush,d'brick/mario, d'brick/mario/leinart-its too dodgy. at 4 we could be left with hawk or davis which isnt bad but not what we want
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One very important factor to consider about Weaver - he won't be a bust in the NFL. Probably won't go to the Pro Bowl anytime real soon, but won't be a bust either. Who knows about "Super Mario": might go to the HOF or might be a bust. So in the all important 4-3 strong side DE position, we've effectively eliminated the upside potential but also the downside risk with the Weaver acquisition. And we've also now rounded out our starters in the DLine: Weaver,TJ,R.Smith,Peek/Babin/someone else we might draft in April in rounds subsequent to the 1st.
And we don't need Ferguson like we did Williamson before our FA move, because gobs of OT in the Draft to pick from in the second round.
And I'm thinking we are much more flexible now with trading our top pick because we are free to trade much deeper into the mid or even latter part of the first round.
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One very important factor to consider about Weaver - he won't be a bust in the NFL. Probably won't go to the Pro Bowl anytime real soon, but won't be a bust either. Who knows about "Super Mario": might go to the HOF or might be a bust. So in the all important 4-3 strong side DE position, we've effectively eliminated the upside potential but also the downside risk with the Weaver acquisition. And we've also now rounded out our starters in the DLine: Weaver,TJ,R.Smith,Peek/Babin/someone else we might draft in April in rounds subsequent to the 1st.
mario more than likely wont be a bust but i see your point. im not as down on weaver or the contract as many others as he was the only SDE i would've wanted to go after in FA and we have to overpay(not that much i think but anyway). peek is probably gone so babin will be WDE. 1 of our major needs is filled so now we can concentrate on o-line, fs, mlb, te, cb#2, wr #2 in the draft.

mlb will be the hardest position to fill i think. who else is realistically possible to fill those needs durin FA
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mario more than likely wont be a bust but i see your point. im not as down on weaver or the contract as many others as he was the only SDE i would've wanted to go after in FA and we have to overpay(not that much i think but anyway). peek is probably gone so babin will be WDE. 1 of our major needs is filled so now we can concentrate on o-line, fs, mlb, te, cb#2, wr #2 in the draft.

mlb will be the hardest position to fill i think. who else is realistically possible to fill those needs durin FA
A couple of things. I highly doubt Peek is gone as anyone taking him gives up a 1st round pick.....would you? With Weaver's selection it seems relatively clear that the FO believes that a trade down is unlikely, so Mario is no longer in the picture (just can't sell him at #1) and they took the best YOUNG DE available. Our first is amost certain at this point to be Bush and I suspect the next will be the best tackle available.
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like i said in another thread- that 1st rounder is negotiable- if the team is only offered a 3rd rounder- and is happy with that- hes gone
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like i said in another thread- that 1st rounder is negotiable- if the team is only offered a 3rd rounder- and is happy with that- hes gone
Yes it is negotiable, but if they were happy with a 3rd they would have low tendered him and saved $800k in cap room.
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It almost seems as though the Texans are content with Pitts at LT IMO...leaving the door open for Reggie or Mario...just because we signed a strong side DE, doesnt mean we cant bring in a freak at DE....he is almost as quick as the small pass rush specialist DE's and is almost 300 lbs

With Weaver TJ Robaire and Mario as the front 4...I think teams will have a hard time running and keeping the QB on his feet
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Lets go get that big Brick. I want him, the Texans want him, so whats the problem.
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Lets go get that big Brick. I want him, the Texans want him, so whats the problem.
I'm with you still.

But I'll be honest, Mario was starting to look REALLY good.

D'brick at #1!!!
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I'm with you still.

But I'll be honest, Mario was starting to look REALLY good.

D'brick at #1!!!
D'Brick won't happen at #1, and I doubt they look to trade down and get him. Like Dunta said and I've been saying for a while, the Texans seem satisfied with Pitts at LT and have been high on Bush all along, so #1 is going to be Bush unless they decide to grab Mario to play RDE for us and then we're somewhat stuck with what to do with Peek, so I think it's Bush. They could look for a RT at #33 (Daryn Colledge would fit pretty well although I don't think he's a great value at #33), or we could definitely go defense at #33 since we're going offense at #1 (Johnathan Joseph would be a good pick at #33 if he falls to that spot).
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D'Brick won't happen at #1, and I doubt they look to trade down and get him. Like Dunta said and I've been saying for a while, the Texans seem satisfied with Pitts at LT and have been high on Bush all along, so #1 is going to be Bush unless they decide to grab Mario to play RDE for us and then we're somewhat stuck with what to do with Peek, so I think it's Bush. They could look for a RT at #33 (Daryn Colledge would fit pretty well although I don't think he's a great value at #33), or we could definitely go defense at #33 since we're going offense at #1 (Johnathan Joseph would be a good pick at #33 if he falls to that spot).
Every team has been satified with Bush, you wont find a draft board that doesnt have him as the #1 rated player, but there are a lot of draft boards that have D'Brick as a close second. Ferguson may not happen at #1 but he is still a huge possibility for the Texans who are in dire need of a franchise LT, no matter how satisfied they seem to be with Pitts.
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It doesn't matter. I think that the Texans are set with Chester Pitts at Left Tackle, and rightfully so. If we are to draft, or FA signing, other offensive lineman, it won't be for left tackle. Mangold, Scott, Winston, or whoever else would be great additiions to our line, but they won't get the left tackle pisition.
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Every team has been satified with Bush, you wont find a draft board that doesnt have him as the #1 rated player, but there are a lot of draft boards that have D'Brick as a close second. Ferguson may not happen at #1 but he is still a huge possibility for the Texans who are in dire need of a franchise LT, no matter how satisfied they seem to be with Pitts.
I don't think Ferguson is rated the #2 overall player on anyone's draft board. Mario Williams is a pretty clear #2 for most teams and maybe even a #1 on some. We have our franchise LT in Chester Pitts and we're paying him a OG's salary rather than a LT's salary, and the team from all appearances is satisfied with him as their LT, so D'Brick is basically out of the picture. Ever since the Combine I think the decision was basically Reggie Bush vs. Mario Williams, and with Weaver's signing it looks like Mario is a definite long shot now and it's all Bush at #1. The Texans could very well look for a RT in free agency or in the first day of the draft, but they won't be looking at D'Brick.
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