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Old 03-08-2006   #1
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Basically it said most folks think Bush will be the top pick. The Texans are reported to be trying hard to move down but no one is going for the high asking price. The Texans supposedly are enamored of Mario Williams and aren't sure Bush is the best USC RB.

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i question that we'll do that- if we want mario we take him at #1 if theres no trade- why take a chance by drafting bush and hoping that the team that takes mario will trade after. i dont see the point of that at all to be honest
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According to an insider within a AFC team, "they (Texans) want Mario Williams..."

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i question that we'll do that- if we want mario we take him at #1 if theres no trade- why take a chance by drafting bush and hoping that the team that takes mario will trade after. i dont see the point of that at all to be honest
I second that....If we trade down its for D'brick. At this point M. Williams is probably worth the #1 pick
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drafting Super Mario at the #1 spot will cost us a pretty penny though (he'd be worth every cent). but, if we can, I hope we can hammer out a trade down in the top 4.
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drafting Super Mario at the #1 spot will cost us a pretty penny though (he'd be worth every cent). but, if we can, I hope we can hammer out a trade down in the top 4.
I hope so too but a trade with the Jets is not looking likely to me at this point. Why would they give up much when they can stay where they are an almost certainly get one of the three QB's they like? IMO, the only way this changes is if they really lock in on one of them (Leinart, Young or Cutler) over the next 45 days and are willing to give up some value to get the one of the three that they like the best. Hope it happens but I am now hoping for another trading partner to come through for us.
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Kubiak will make the right choice, we have to believe that, I would be fine with either (REGGIE REGGIE REGGIE)
Why in the world would you believe that? I mean, that's like believing the other Bush when he said we went to Iraq to intercept the WMD. It's ridiculous, a coin flip at the absolute best case.

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Why in the world would you believe that? I mean, that's like believing the other Bush when he said we went to Iraq to intercept the WMD. It's ridiculous, a coin flip at the absolute best case.

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Why in the world would you believe that? I mean, that's like believing the other Bush when he said we went to Iraq to intercept the WMD. It's ridiculous, a coin flip at the absolute best case.

SHeesh.
Is it my imagination or everytime someone posts somthing positive about Kubiak you flame all over it? Tell me if I am wrong.

Do you have some sort of personal grudge against him? Did he run over your cat or steal you milk money? Is your name really Ibar-Gafney and got so much heat you changed names? I have wondered for some time what happened to him. I am just playin.

Seriously though, do you have somthing against the man?
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I think picking Mario #1 would be ok, we might get some heat from the national media for not picking a offensive impact player. But Mario is the equivilent of a franchise OT if he lives up to his natural ability. More interceptions, sacks, 3 and outs etc... I hope we can trade down and get him but picking him #1 would not be a bad thing.
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Mario should be a very special player, as should Bush and some of the other top guys. I would prefer Mario since he plays a position that we really need help at, and I honestly think he could be a better pure DE than Julius Peppers (Peppers is obviously a better athlete and all-round player, but Mario is close athletically and is bigger/stronger and might be a more effective pure DE). I would be fine taking him at #1, but at the same time I think we can get some kind of trade from the Titans or Jets if they want to move up to grab Bush or one of the QBs, and Mario will still be available at #3/4 (the Saints will take Leinart or Cutler, and the Titans will take a QB or D'Brick, so Mario will be there at #4), so I think accepting any kind of trade to move down to one of those two spots would be good as we can get Mario for a cheaper price and add extra picks (I would definitely take a trade down if we got this year's 2nd and next year's 2nd from either the Titans or Jets). Moving down past the Jets is risky though for getting Mario as they could definitely take him, especially if they end up trading John Abraham, so I would take just about any trade from either the Titans or Jets as we still get Mario and add something else in there.
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Why in the world would you believe that? I mean, that's like believing the other Bush when he said we went to Iraq to intercept the WMD. It's ridiculous, a coin flip at the absolute best case.

SHeesh.
hey stud, unless you are a member of the US state department you don't know.
why don't you take that oath from the chief justice and then deal with what the position entails. leave your political views aside when talking about the Texans.
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Is it my imagination or everytime someone posts somthing positive about Kubiak you flame all over it? Tell me if I am wrong.

Do you have some sort of personal grudge against him? Did he run over your cat or steal you milk money? Is your name really Ibar-Gafney and got so much heat you changed names? I have wondered for some time what happened to him. I am just playin.

Seriously though, do you have somthing against the man?
I have nothing against Kubiak but neither am I a brain-impaired lemming. The guy said "we have to trust Kubiak will might the right choice" or similar. That's utter nonsense. There is no reason in the world that we should think that Kubiak or anybody else in the Texans FO will make the "right choice" about anything. When he (and the FO) have made a bunch of demonstrable "right choices" then I will be happy to agree that he might make the "right choice" in some future matter. Otherwise, I remain skeptical.

This is the fundamental difficulty I have on the board. Too many people willing to give too many others at the Texans offices a pass on just about anything. Seems silly to me. THat's how we got in this mess with 4 years of Capers & Co (FWIW, I was on here begging to dump Capers after yr 2).

But hey, I'm just sayin'.
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hey stud, unless you are a member of the US state department you don't know.
why don't you take that oath from the chief justice and then deal with what the position entails. leave your political views aside when talking about the Texans.
Sorry. I forgot. They're still looking.

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Mario should be a very special player, as should Bush and some of the other top guys. I would prefer Mario since he plays a position that we really need help at, and I honestly think he could be a better pure DE than Julius Peppers (Peppers is obviously a better athlete and all-round player, but Mario is close athletically and is bigger/stronger and might be a more effective pure DE).
Its interesting, but many people have compared Reggie Bush to Steve Smith
in what kind of impact he could have on the offense of the Texans, or the
offense of whichever team drafts him. Of course Smith is primarily a WR who
is involved in some running plays (reverses for example), and is a KR. Bush
would be a RB who would also be used as a slot receiver, WR, and KR.
But you've got to ask yourself, would a Steve Smith or a Julius Peppers make
a more important contribution to your team ?
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Its interesting, but many people have compared Reggie Bush to Steve Smith
in what kind of impact he could have on the offense of the Texans, or the
offense of whichever team drafts him. Of course Smith is primarily a WR who
is involved in some running plays (reverses for example), and is a KR. Bush
would be a RB who would also be used as a slot receiver, WR, and KR.
But you've got to ask yourself, would a Steve Smith or a Julius Peppers make
a more important contribution to your team ?
I have made those comparisons to Steve Smith, and I honestly think with our defensive personnel and offensive personnel that Mario would make a bigger impact. He's probably a more "sure" pick, however you take that to mean, but I'd be thrilled to have either on our team.
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Its interesting, but many people have compared Reggie Bush to Steve Smith
in what kind of impact he could have on the offense of the Texans, or the
offense of whichever team drafts him. Of course Smith is primarily a WR who
is involved in some running plays (reverses for example), and is a KR. Bush
would be a RB who would also be used as a slot receiver, WR, and KR.
But you've got to ask yourself, would a Steve Smith or a Julius Peppers make
a more important contribution to your team ?
The state of the Texans would suggest a Julius Peppers type hands down. We have had an all pro kick returner, we have had a rookie of the year at RB and we have had an all pro WR. This still has not been good enough. What we need to do is apply pressure. In the last four seasons we have not had a player on either side of that ball that the other team has to account for, nor have we had a guy that we can count on to make the big play. Mario in my opinion is that guy when you look at the film and the measurements.
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I have made those comparisons to Steve Smith, and I honestly think with our defensive personnel and offensive personnel that Mario would make a bigger impact. He's probably a more "sure" pick, however you take that to mean, but I'd be thrilled to have either on our team.
Williams looks to be an outstanding NFL prospect, but are you concerned about reports that have him as only the #2 DE on his own team ?
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