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Battle Red Flash · 03-07-2006

The O-line must be fixed.
The Texans pass blocking was horrible, and I am hearing WAY too much about how Kubiak will fix it with the guys we have.
HORSE HOCKEY!!
McNair swore that whoever plays QB this year will be protected, then Casserly says we won't be very active with FA's! WHAT?
They need to bring in some competition for jobs on that O-line.
At least one FA, two draftees, and three unsigned rookie FA's.
(Although Casserly is not that good at signing undrafted Rookie FA's either.)

Any thoughts??

Coach C. · 03-07-2006

Casserly will likely bring in a a mid-tier free agent or try and lock down a big time guy. I am guessing the mid-tier guy will sign and he will be able to play tackle and guard in our new system someone like Shaffer or Ashworth they both can play tackle and guard. Past that look for us to find two or more linemen in the draft likely starting in the second or third rounds. Colledge or Whitworth will likely last till the third. Mangold may make it out of the first and he is a solid pick at 33, unless jonathan joseph is there then it is a coinflip. As long as we get Mario Williams, two solid linemen, a CB, and a 3rd or lower round LB and TE then I am perfectly fine.

TexanAddict · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by Coach C.

As long as we get Mario Williams, two solid linemen, a CB, and a 3rd or lower round LB and TE then I am perfectly fine.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Man, that would make me happy.

Erratic Assassin · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by Battle Red Flash

Casserly says we won't be very active with FA's! WHAT?

Casserly is not that good at signing undrafted Rookie FA's either.

Any thoughts??

Yeah, Casserly should have been fired with Capers.

bdiddy · 03-07-2006

Pure Speculation

The Texans are willing to sign Sean Mahan, Guard, from the Tampa Bay Bucs. He is a restricted free agent, thus, the team would be willing to give up a 5th-7th rounder as compensation for signing him. Additionally, the Texans will draft one lineman they hope can compete for a starting job, as well as, one more lineman for depth (likely a big tight end that Kubiak will attempt to convert to tackle) in the late middle rounds (5th or 6th).

**infantrycak** · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by bdiddy

Pure Speculation

The Texans are willing to sign Sean Mahan, Guard, from the Tampa Bay Bucs. He is a restricted free agent, thus, the team would be willing to give up a 5th-7th rounder as compensation for signing him.

Not so fast--the Bucs made a mid level tender to Mahan so he would cost a 1st round pick. Not happening.

Link

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as well as, one more lineman for depth (likely a big tight end that Kubiak will attempt to convert to tackle) in the late middle rounds (5th or 6th).

How many starting OT's in the last 20 years made the conversion from TE to OT in the NFL?

bdiddy · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

Not so fast--the Bucs made a mid level tender to Mahan so he would cost a 1st round pick. Not happening.

Link

How many starting OT's in the last 20 years made the conversion from TE to OT in the NFL?

Link on the mid-level tender?

Matt Lepsis, Denver's OT.

**infantrycak** · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by bdiddy

Link on the mid-level tender?

It's above--it says "Link."

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Matt Lepsis, Denver's OT.

One in 20 years? Doesn't strike me that modeling after the longshot of taking an undrafted guy and waiting spending 7 years waiting for them to sniff LT is a great plan.

bdiddy · 03-07-2006

Missed the link, sorry!

It is not as uncommon as you think to convert a TE to a LT, especially in the zone blocking scheme.

Bubbajwp · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

It's above--it says "Link."

One in 20 years? Doesn't strike me that modeling after the longshot of taking an undrafted guy and waiting spending 7 years waiting for them to sniff LT is a great plan.

He's not in the NFL yet but Eric Winston.

Also I was wondering if any team could sign Lavar Arrington before FA starts like what happened with La'Roi Glover.

03-07-2006

Do any of you think McKinney restructuring his contract will help bring in Maewae from the Jets for our C and move McKinney back to G?

**infantrycak** · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by bdiddy

Missed the link, sorry!

It is not as uncommon as you think to convert a TE to a LT, especially in the zone blocking scheme.

I realize a lot of guys make the conversion from TE to LT, as mentioned Winston being an example, but it remains rare IMO to make the conversion after hitting the NFL. Do you have any specific candidates in mind for conversion?--and, it also seems like the Lepsis route would be better, i.e. undrafted TE rather than spending a pick.

YoungTexanFan · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by whiskeyrbl

Do any of you think McKinney restructuring his contract will help bring in Maewae from the Jets for our C and move McKinney back to G?

No. Why would we want a reject from a team who struggled as much as us? Maewae is getting up in age and has lost some steps. Why do you think the Jets covet Mangold so badly?

bdiddy · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

I realize a lot of guys make the conversion from TE to LT, as mentioned Winston being an example, but it remains rare IMO to make the conversion after hitting the NFL. Do you have any specific candidates in mind for conversion?--and, it also seems like the Lepsis route would be better, i.e. undrafted TE rather than spending a pick.

Yeah, Kelly Griffeth in the 6th round. Checkout his bio.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/griffeth_kelly

F-minus67 · 03-07-2006

Butler from miami might be a fit for the new zone scheme, he is 6'5" 293lbs and started at LT when Winston got hurt.

Texans Horror · 03-08-2006

I like Winston as a late draft pick who we let take it easy. Let him recuperate on the knee injury and really start pushing him next year. However, McNair's policy of "we want to win now" has me thinking we will pass on this guy.

I think Sherman has a lot of input to this line. I would be curious to know if there were any linemen on the Texans that Green Bay considered for draft day.

Coach C. · 03-08-2006

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Originally Posted by oso

I like Winston as a late draft pick who we let take it easy. Let him recuperate on the knee injury and really start pushing him next year. However, McNair's policy of "we want to win now" has me thinking we will pass on this guy.

I think Sherman has a lot of input to this line. I would be curious to know if there were any linemen on the Texans that Green Bay considered for draft day.

OSO Winston is the second best OL in the draft and had a big time combine. He has positioned himself in the top 20 and not overly likely to make it to the second round. So getting him is definately a wishlist and I think he is a much much better version of Chester Pitts.

Texans Horror · 03-08-2006

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Originally Posted by oso

I like Winston as a late draft pick who we let take it easy. Let him recuperate on the knee injury and really start pushing him next year. However, McNair's policy of "we want to win now" has me thinking we will pass on this guy.

I think Sherman has a lot of input to this line. I would be curious to know if there were any linemen on the Texans that Green Bay considered for draft day.

I would like to add Kubiak to that sentiment. Kubiack being Shanahan's OC, were there ever any current Texans that the Broncos wanted?

03-07-2006	#1
Battle Red Flash Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Spring Age: 50 Posts: 384 Rep Power: 24	O-line and Free Agents The O-line must be fixed. The Texans pass blocking was horrible, and I am hearing WAY too much about how Kubiak will fix it with the guys we have. HORSE HOCKEY!! McNair swore that whoever plays QB this year will be protected, then Casserly says we won't be very active with FA's! WHAT? They need to bring in some competition for jobs on that O-line. At least one FA, two draftees, and three unsigned rookie FA's. (Although Casserly is not that good at signing undrafted Rookie FA's either.) Any thoughts?? __________________ Need a Texans Fix? Read: http://www.nfldraftdog.com/nfl-team-...on-texans.html VICTORY!

03-07-2006	#2
Coach C. Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SE Houston Posts: 1,422 Rep Power: 10	Casserly will likely bring in a a mid-tier free agent or try and lock down a big time guy. I am guessing the mid-tier guy will sign and he will be able to play tackle and guard in our new system someone like Shaffer or Ashworth they both can play tackle and guard. Past that look for us to find two or more linemen in the draft likely starting in the second or third rounds. Colledge or Whitworth will likely last till the third. Mangold may make it out of the first and he is a solid pick at 33, unless jonathan joseph is there then it is a coinflip. As long as we get Mario Williams, two solid linemen, a CB, and a 3rd or lower round LB and TE then I am perfectly fine. __________________ "Inconsistency is the only thing in which men are consistent" — Horace Smith. 12-7 Aggies!!!

03-07-2006	#5
bdiddy Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 8	Pure Speculation The Texans are willing to sign Sean Mahan, Guard, from the Tampa Bay Bucs. He is a restricted free agent, thus, the team would be willing to give up a 5th-7th rounder as compensation for signing him. Additionally, the Texans will draft one lineman they hope can compete for a starting job, as well as, one more lineman for depth (likely a big tight end that Kubiak will attempt to convert to tackle) in the late middle rounds (5th or 6th). __________________ *Mario, what would you like to say to the fans? "I Eat Mannings for Breakfast"*

03-07-2006	#9
bdiddy Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 8	Missed the link, sorry! It is not as uncommon as you think to convert a TE to a LT, especially in the zone blocking scheme. __________________ *Mario, what would you like to say to the fans? "I Eat Mannings for Breakfast"*

03-07-2006	#15
F-minus67 Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Middletown,CT Age: 26 Posts: 1,070 Rep Power: 11	Butler from miami might be a fit for the new zone scheme, he is 6'5" 293lbs and started at LT when Winston got hurt. __________________ "Democracy is not for the people." - Judge Dredd

03-07-2006	#11
whiskeyrbl Guest Posts: n/a	Do any of you think McKinney restructuring his contract will help bring in Maewae from the Jets for our C and move McKinney back to G?

03-08-2006	#16
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	I like Winston as a late draft pick who we let take it easy. Let him recuperate on the knee injury and really start pushing him next year. However, McNair's policy of "we want to win now" has me thinking we will pass on this guy. I think Sherman has a lot of input to this line. I would be curious to know if there were any linemen on the Texans that Green Bay considered for draft day.

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