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Old 03-07-2006   #1
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The O-line must be fixed.
The Texans pass blocking was horrible, and I am hearing WAY too much about how Kubiak will fix it with the guys we have.
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McNair swore that whoever plays QB this year will be protected, then Casserly says we won't be very active with FA's! WHAT?
They need to bring in some competition for jobs on that O-line.
At least one FA, two draftees, and three unsigned rookie FA's.
(Although Casserly is not that good at signing undrafted Rookie FA's either.)

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Casserly will likely bring in a a mid-tier free agent or try and lock down a big time guy. I am guessing the mid-tier guy will sign and he will be able to play tackle and guard in our new system someone like Shaffer or Ashworth they both can play tackle and guard. Past that look for us to find two or more linemen in the draft likely starting in the second or third rounds. Colledge or Whitworth will likely last till the third. Mangold may make it out of the first and he is a solid pick at 33, unless jonathan joseph is there then it is a coinflip. As long as we get Mario Williams, two solid linemen, a CB, and a 3rd or lower round LB and TE then I am perfectly fine.
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As long as we get Mario Williams, two solid linemen, a CB, and a 3rd or lower round LB and TE then I am perfectly fine.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Man, that would make me happy.
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Casserly says we won't be very active with FA's! WHAT?

Casserly is not that good at signing undrafted Rookie FA's either.

Any thoughts??
Yeah, Casserly should have been fired with Capers.
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Pure Speculation

The Texans are willing to sign Sean Mahan, Guard, from the Tampa Bay Bucs. He is a restricted free agent, thus, the team would be willing to give up a 5th-7th rounder as compensation for signing him. Additionally, the Texans will draft one lineman they hope can compete for a starting job, as well as, one more lineman for depth (likely a big tight end that Kubiak will attempt to convert to tackle) in the late middle rounds (5th or 6th).
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The Texans are willing to sign Sean Mahan, Guard, from the Tampa Bay Bucs. He is a restricted free agent, thus, the team would be willing to give up a 5th-7th rounder as compensation for signing him.
Not so fast--the Bucs made a mid level tender to Mahan so he would cost a 1st round pick. Not happening.

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as well as, one more lineman for depth (likely a big tight end that Kubiak will attempt to convert to tackle) in the late middle rounds (5th or 6th).
How many starting OT's in the last 20 years made the conversion from TE to OT in the NFL?
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Not so fast--the Bucs made a mid level tender to Mahan so he would cost a 1st round pick. Not happening.

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How many starting OT's in the last 20 years made the conversion from TE to OT in the NFL?
Link on the mid-level tender?

Matt Lepsis, Denver's OT.
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It's above--it says "Link."

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One in 20 years? Doesn't strike me that modeling after the longshot of taking an undrafted guy and waiting spending 7 years waiting for them to sniff LT is a great plan.
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Missed the link, sorry!

It is not as uncommon as you think to convert a TE to a LT, especially in the zone blocking scheme.
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One in 20 years? Doesn't strike me that modeling after the longshot of taking an undrafted guy and waiting spending 7 years waiting for them to sniff LT is a great plan.
He's not in the NFL yet but Eric Winston.

Also I was wondering if any team could sign Lavar Arrington before FA starts like what happened with La'Roi Glover.
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Do any of you think McKinney restructuring his contract will help bring in Maewae from the Jets for our C and move McKinney back to G?
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Missed the link, sorry!

It is not as uncommon as you think to convert a TE to a LT, especially in the zone blocking scheme.
I realize a lot of guys make the conversion from TE to LT, as mentioned Winston being an example, but it remains rare IMO to make the conversion after hitting the NFL. Do you have any specific candidates in mind for conversion?--and, it also seems like the Lepsis route would be better, i.e. undrafted TE rather than spending a pick.
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Do any of you think McKinney restructuring his contract will help bring in Maewae from the Jets for our C and move McKinney back to G?
No. Why would we want a reject from a team who struggled as much as us? Maewae is getting up in age and has lost some steps. Why do you think the Jets covet Mangold so badly?
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I realize a lot of guys make the conversion from TE to LT, as mentioned Winston being an example, but it remains rare IMO to make the conversion after hitting the NFL. Do you have any specific candidates in mind for conversion?--and, it also seems like the Lepsis route would be better, i.e. undrafted TE rather than spending a pick.

Yeah, Kelly Griffeth in the 6th round. Checkout his bio.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/griffeth_kelly
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Butler from miami might be a fit for the new zone scheme, he is 6'5" 293lbs and started at LT when Winston got hurt.
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I like Winston as a late draft pick who we let take it easy. Let him recuperate on the knee injury and really start pushing him next year. However, McNair's policy of "we want to win now" has me thinking we will pass on this guy.

I think Sherman has a lot of input to this line. I would be curious to know if there were any linemen on the Texans that Green Bay considered for draft day.
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I like Winston as a late draft pick who we let take it easy. Let him recuperate on the knee injury and really start pushing him next year. However, McNair's policy of "we want to win now" has me thinking we will pass on this guy.

I think Sherman has a lot of input to this line. I would be curious to know if there were any linemen on the Texans that Green Bay considered for draft day.
OSO Winston is the second best OL in the draft and had a big time combine. He has positioned himself in the top 20 and not overly likely to make it to the second round. So getting him is definately a wishlist and I think he is a much much better version of Chester Pitts.
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I like Winston as a late draft pick who we let take it easy. Let him recuperate on the knee injury and really start pushing him next year. However, McNair's policy of "we want to win now" has me thinking we will pass on this guy.

I think Sherman has a lot of input to this line. I would be curious to know if there were any linemen on the Texans that Green Bay considered for draft day.
I would like to add Kubiak to that sentiment. Kubiack being Shanahan's OC, were there ever any current Texans that the Broncos wanted?
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