Shantee Orr - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**TEXANS84** · 03-07-2006

I'm surprised nobody has really talked about him this offseason. As a exclusive rights free agent, I think its a priority that we sign him after a very promising 2005 campaign in which he achived (in a limited starting role after Babin got hurt/benched):

7 sacks
39 tackles
2 passes defensed
4 forced fumbles

From the time Shantee took the field and chased down Michael Vick in late 2003 I had a feeling we got someone that could potentially be a starter for the OLB position. Now with the defense changing to a 4-3, how do some of you feel to where his role may/may not suit the Texans this year?

Discuss

Big B Texan Fan · 03-07-2006

He will win a starting position this year. Just don't know if it's in camp, pre-season, or during the season.

Grid · 03-07-2006

definatly should be one of our top priorities.

He has been an outstanding player on both defense and special teams.

Cheroqui · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by TEXANS84

I'm surprised nobody has really talked about him this offseason.

Sure we talk about him. There's a few posts that talk about him. We have pointed out plenty of times how he and Antwan Peek seem to be in the QB's face quite often. As a matter fact I just asked in a post if they should be same side or oppposites depending on whether or not we keep Peek standing up. And yes I know no one is trying to look at every post or even go more than 2-3 pages deep into a post... I'm just saying

Coach C. · 03-07-2006

I think he is already penciled in as our starting strongside backer. He will be a terror coming off the edge against TEs and RBs are not gonna want to see him. He is not a liability in coverage and has pretty decent movement in his hips so with some work he will improver there. He is solid against the run and due to his small stature pretty good in traffic. We will likely tender him this year and work out a deal next year. I would think if he duplicates his year and shows his talent again he will get a deal pretty similar to Wong's and Wong will likely be on his way out. That injury may be the end of him.

Texas · 03-07-2006

I noticed the guy in the preseason last year and really liked him...I hope it works out and he gets a starting spot!

rittenhouserobz · 03-07-2006

I was a fan of Orr's ever since the Patriots OT game. I am hoping we keep him around.

keyfro · 03-07-2006

the problem is with him and peek we have two guys who would be going for the same position...both of them are not going to start at the sametime...one is going to be on the bench the other is going to be starting and peek is probably the starter

Grid · 03-07-2006

Peek qualifies as a pass rushing DE. he has the size.

He could also provide depth at OLB.

That being said.. why couldnt Orr and Peek both play OLB? we need two and Babin will most likely become a DE.

travfrancis · 03-07-2006

^ greenwood will likely start at Will
peek at Sam (with Orr competiting there and backing him up)
free agent/draft pick/wong at Mike

babin RDE

**Vinny** · 03-07-2006

Peek can't cover good TE's...he won't be the sam imo

**jerek** · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by Vinny

Peek can't cover good TE's...he won't be the sam imo

Agreed. Peek is lousy in coverage. Part of why he was such a nobody last year - Fangio constantly had him back, either in zone or man. Let the guy do what he loves to do: rush and stick the hell out of people.

travfrancis · 03-07-2006

^ (to Vinny) have you since changed your mind? i remember you saying when you first saw what Smith said about Peek and the other lbs that you thought he was looking at Peek at Sam?

Long Baller · 03-07-2006

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Originally Posted by keyfro

the problem is with him and peek we have two guys who would be going for the same position...both of them are not going to start at the sametime...one is going to be on the bench the other is going to be starting and peek is probably the starter

I have to disagree with this. I don't think Peek has the cover skills to play OLB in the 4-3. I think we will be used as a down rush specialist where Shantee can and should be our every down OLB.

I have been counting on him to be one of our stongest defensive playmakers next year and I think he will deliver.

DRAMA · 03-07-2006

I like Peek as a motor guy. Turn him on and let him run wild.

"Hey Antwan...See QB - kill QB!"

TexanBacker93 · 03-07-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny

Peek can't cover good TE's...he won't be the sam imo

I'm not sure Peek could cover our TEs.

run-david-run · 03-07-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRAMA

I like Peek as a motor guy. Turn him on and let him run wild.

"Hey Antwan...See QB - kill QB!"

Haha, the linebacker from The Replacements....

keyfro · 03-07-2006

peek might not be able to cover but if we put him at DE then who is our strongside DE?...babin and peek and orr are all too small to play the strongside DE...richard smith and holland have both said they're not sure about peek on what position he will play...holland was leaning more towards LB for him and smith was leaning more towards DE...so i think it's totally up in the air...if i was smith i think you have to bring in atleast 2 LB's one being a Mike backer and i would bring in atleast 2 DE's...both being of the size or size potential of being an everydown strongside DE

YoungTexanFan · 03-07-2006

Peek does not have the ability to cover TE's or RB's. He does not recognize WR's running crossing routes. He is quick off the snap, and agressive with his moves. He is a situational pass rusher.

Our Front 7 on 1st and 2nd downs:

Babin------TJ------Smith------Mario/other draft pick/FA

------Orr----A. Brooks/FA/Draft pick------Greenwood

Our front 7 on obvious pass rushing downs:

Peek------TJ------Walker-----Mario/other draft pick/FA
-----Orr/Polk-----A.Brooks/FA/Draft pick------Greenwood/Polk

TexanAddict · 03-07-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

Peek does not have the ability to cover TE's or RB's. He does not recognize WR's running crossing routes. He is quick off the snap, and agressive with his moves. He is a situational pass rusher.

Our Front 7 on 1st and 2nd downs:

Babin------TJ------Smith------Mario/other draft pick/FA

------Orr----A. Brooks/FA/Draft pick------Greenwood

Our front 7 on obvious pass rushing downs:

Peek------TJ------Walker-----Mario/other draft pick/FA
-----Orr/Polk-----A.Brooks/FA/Draft pick------Greenwood/Polk

Looks good although Walker will probably be let go and we would probably see Payne in on some of the early downs.

03-07-2006	#1
TEXANS84 Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Woodlands, TX Age: 35 Posts: 7,447 Rep Power: 3116	Shantee Orr I'm surprised nobody has really talked about him this offseason. As a exclusive rights free agent, I think its a priority that we sign him after a very promising 2005 campaign in which he achived (in a limited starting role after Babin got hurt/benched): 7 sacks 39 tackles 2 passes defensed 4 forced fumbles From the time Shantee took the field and chased down Michael Vick in late 2003 I had a feeling we got someone that could potentially be a starter for the OLB position. Now with the defense changing to a 4-3, how do some of you feel to where his role may/may not suit the Texans this year? Discuss

03-07-2006	#2
Big B Texan Fan Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Spring TX Age: 39 Posts: 1,098 Rep Power: 0	He will win a starting position this year. Just don't know if it's in camp, pre-season, or during the season. __________________ Kubiak is no mechanic! Trade in the Carr and go with a Young-er model!

03-07-2006	#5
Coach C. Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SE Houston Posts: 1,422 Rep Power: 10	I think he is already penciled in as our starting strongside backer. He will be a terror coming off the edge against TEs and RBs are not gonna want to see him. He is not a liability in coverage and has pretty decent movement in his hips so with some work he will improver there. He is solid against the run and due to his small stature pretty good in traffic. We will likely tender him this year and work out a deal next year. I would think if he duplicates his year and shows his talent again he will get a deal pretty similar to Wong's and Wong will likely be on his way out. That injury may be the end of him. __________________ "Inconsistency is the only thing in which men are consistent" — Horace Smith. 12-7 Aggies!!!

03-07-2006	#7
rittenhouserobz Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 11	I was a fan of Orr's ever since the Patriots OT game. I am hoping we keep him around. __________________ We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. Ben Franklin

03-07-2006	#8
keyfro Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 13	the problem is with him and peek we have two guys who would be going for the same position...both of them are not going to start at the sametime...one is going to be on the bench the other is going to be starting and peek is probably the starter __________________ With the 10th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Houston Texans select...?????

03-07-2006	#3
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	definatly should be one of our top priorities. He has been an outstanding player on both defense and special teams.

03-07-2006	#6
Texas Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Clear Lake Age: 24 Posts: 1,030 Rep Power: 9	I noticed the guy in the preseason last year and really liked him...I hope it works out and he gets a starting spot!

03-07-2006	#10
travfrancis Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Houston Age: 26 Posts: 410 Rep Power: 11	^ greenwood will likely start at Will peek at Sam (with Orr competiting there and backing him up) free agent/draft pick/wong at Mike babin RDE

03-07-2006	#11
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Peek can't cover good TE's...he won't be the sam imo __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

03-07-2006	#15
DRAMA All Pro Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston Age: 42 Posts: 524 Rep Power: 9	I like Peek as a motor guy. Turn him on and let him run wild. "Hey Antwan...See QB - kill QB!"

03-07-2006	#19
YoungTexanFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,790 Rep Power: 653	Peek does not have the ability to cover TE's or RB's. He does not recognize WR's running crossing routes. He is quick off the snap, and agressive with his moves. He is a situational pass rusher. Our Front 7 on 1st and 2nd downs: Babin------TJ------Smith------Mario/other draft pick/FA ------Orr----A. Brooks/FA/Draft pick------Greenwood Our front 7 on obvious pass rushing downs: Peek------TJ------Walker-----Mario/other draft pick/FA -----Orr/Polk-----A.Brooks/FA/Draft pick------Greenwood/Polk __________________ The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we had when we created them.

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