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Old 03-07-2006   #1
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... if we had Shawn Alexander, Edgerin James, Tiki Barber, or Larry Johnson, or Warrick Dunn??

I'm just ask'n, to get a feel for how great you think this Reggie Bush is going to be. My answer, if I had anyone of those guys, would be no........ well... maybe if Dunn was my guy, but I'm kinda biased against little bitty guys. I just don't understand how he and Dante Hall can take those hits, and keep coming back.... it's inconcievable...... but anyway, back to the question. You've got one of those 5 guys on your team........ would you still take Reggie Bush #1 overall??


in return, if I had Peyton Manning, Donovan, Cullpepper, or Tom Brady, no... I wouldn't consider Vince Young at all in the draft.... not one second..
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Alexander, James and Johnson - No
Barber and Dunn - Yes
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Alexander, James and Johnson - No
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Ditto. Although I don't get the point of this thread if there is one?
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Exactly what I said........ I want to see how explosive you think Reggie Bush is, and where you guys rank DD...... that's all. just trying to understand my fellow Texans fan.
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Total "Catch 22"
On one hand we have an underachieving QB that is pretty durable yet has all/most the ability to make all the throws at an NFL level but has a propensity to getting sacked often.

On the other we have an overachieving RB that isn't very durable yet has all/most the ability to be a Pro-Bowler at the NFL level but has the propensity of getting injured and missing 4-6 games a season.

What to do?
Trade down and get D'Brick or Williams.
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Roll the dice and go with Scat Back extrodinaire or VY the Tacklin' Dummy (emphesis on the Dummy).

PS. I'm in VY's corner irregardless of his brains but I am leaning on trading down and taking what falls to us, hopefully it's VY but at this point I'd be happy with just getting 04/29 behind us and moving on.
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Exactly what I said........ I want to see how explosive you think Reggie Bush is, and where you guys rank DD...... that's all. just trying to understand my fellow Texans fan.
I think it is an interesting question. I don't want to draft where we already have players who are around average. I think we need to draft in an area that meets two criteria:

1) It is a position where we are well below average

2) There is an exceptional player available at that position



Therefore to answer your question: I think most of the backs you listed do not meet my first criteria, so I wouldn't draft Bush.
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(emphesis on the Dummy).
Maybe it's just me, but when I use words like dummy, I try to place an emphasis on spelling them and the words around them correctly.
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Maybe it's just me, but when I use words like dummy, I try to place an emphasis on spelling them and the words around them correctly.

yea that was funny but not nearly as funny as seeing one of Young's biggest Texan's Message Board backers turning on him for something that "never happened" ....
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Maybe it's just me, but when I use words like dummy, I try to place an emphasis on spelling them and the words around them correctly.
Yeah maybe that's just you. You know though, with as many posts as you have and as many of your posts that I've read (most of them elementary), I believe I've seen a mispelled word or two but never called you out on it.
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yea that was funny but not nearly as funny as seeing one of Young's biggest Texan's Message Board backers turning on him for something that "never happened" ....
Not referring to the alleged 6, more so the 16.

Was trying to be less VY heavy since that's all I've spewed lately. But if it makes you happy I'll go back to the:
Carr sux
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Total "Catch 22"
...I'm in VY's corner irregardless of his brains...
He's just messin' with ya...it's just funny when talking about Vince's smarts and then using 'irregardless' ...seeing as how it's not a word.

Just funnin' around...
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I dont want Bush .... and all we have is poor ole disrespected DD


V.Davis , M.Williams or D-Brick .....in that order
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... if we had Shawn Alexander, Edgerin James, Tiki Barber, or Larry Johnson, or Warrick Dunn??

I'm just ask'n, to get a feel for how great you think this Reggie Bush is going to be. My answer, if I had anyone of those guys, would be no........ well... maybe if Dunn was my guy, but I'm kinda biased against little bitty guys. I just don't understand how he and Dante Hall can take those hits, and keep coming back.... it's inconcievable...... but anyway, back to the question. You've got one of those 5 guys on your team........ would you still take Reggie Bush #1 overall??


in return, if I had Peyton Manning, Donovan, Cullpepper, or Tom Brady, no... I wouldn't consider Vince Young at all in the draft.... not one second..

Yes I would.

I don't know if you can remember the Cowboys back in their real glory years when Murchison, Schramm and Landry were running things. sp?


Anyhoo...The boys would draft good players for positions where they already had good players. Then they would trade the older/current player for a draft choice equal to or better than they spent on the new player.

Seems like this happened almost on a yearly basis. Back then many teams would stand in line to trade for or sign up Cowboy castoffs. ( Before Jerruh started running things. )

At least that's the way I remember it...

Point being, you can never have too many good players for the same position, rb's, qb's. They are like currency to your team.

It is my opinion that you keep drafting the 'apparent elite/can't miss' prospects and sooner than later you will have built a winning franchise.

It would then be a rare occasion that you must draft for a need position.

But like I stated..that's just my opinion.

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Yeah maybe that's just you. You know though, with as many posts as you have and as many of your posts that I've read (most of them elementary), I believe I've seen a mispelled word or two but never called you out on it.
Dude, go buy a sense of humor. And while you are at the store, buy an "s" to stick in misspelled.
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yea that was funny but not nearly as funny as seeing one of Young's biggest Texan's Message Board backers turning on him for something that "never happened" ....
Oh, the delicious irony.

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Dude, go buy a sense of humor. And while you are at the store, buy an "s" to stick in misspelled.
Maybe Vince will give you the one off his chest.

And TK, to answer your question, I'm still not 100% sold on the idea of drafting a split-carries back/offensive "specialist" at that price tag, simply because we already have Davis, who despite injury problems has been effective for us. I would like the trade down, but I guess I am not convinced we will be able to finagle a worthwhile deal.
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Dude, go buy a sense of humor. And while you are at the store, buy an "s" to stick in misspelled.
I've got plenty of humor. Just didn't understand why someone who misspells stuff all the time is calling someone out about misspelling. But if it makes you happy I'll work on it Oh Mr. Moderator Sir.
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Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

Better call Webster.

Just funnin' too.
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Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

Better call Webster.

Just funnin' too.
Now I'll drink (a "cuppacoffee") to that.
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I've got plenty of humor. Just didn't understand why someone who misspells stuff all the time is calling someone out about misspelling. But if it makes you happy I'll work on it Oh Mr. Moderator Sir.
Pull your knickers out of your crevice and go back and look at the unique juxtaposition commented on originally--misspelling something in the same sentence as calling someone a dummy. You weren't "called out" and it wasn't just a drive by on a plain misspelling. And the childish retort about my spelling sure is a classic case of a gun kicking a whole lot harder than it shoots.
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