When will the new play book be finished? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Ibar_Harry · 03-04-2006

A lot of us are looking at players offensively and defensively and the Texans keep saying I don't know. Perhaps that's because we don't know what we are going to be doing yet. Perhapes we are still in the designing stage of the book. I would think that is the case, but does anyone have any first hand knowledge of where this part of the puzzle is? I believe the previous organization had a year or so to develop a plan before they had to utilize it. I would think this in itself is a major priority and one that is going to make it tough on Kubiack and his staff. Its not like he has a plan he has already used that is his own. Yes, he has been involved in a lot of schemes, but I would think he would be putting together something that would be unique to the way he thinks things should be done. Will he keep any part of the previous play books? Defense 4-3 to 3-4 and offensively well throw that book away. Young Shan I believe was hired in part because that's what he did a lot of last year. He made up a lot of the play book after it was given to him. He was a paper pusher in his previous job among other things.

**Wharton** · 03-04-2006

I thought they just changed the logo on the Bronco's playbook.

TexanSam · 03-04-2006

The Texans offense will be very similar to the Broncos offense. It probably won't be a mirror image of it, but it's not like Kubiak is going to design a completely new offense just for the Texans. He'll probably innovate it some, change things up here and there, but the foundation for our offensive scheme comes from the Broncos. I don't think building the playbook is the first priority for the Texans though. Evaluating our roster and college talent should be the main priority. Once the draft is over, then I think the coaches will get to work on the playbook.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 03-04-2006

While there are core concepts that a team will employ, a playbook (even boring, non creative offenses) is never really finished. It is an evolving process of adding somethings new and adjusting what you do versus certain schemes etc.

Kubiak and Calhoun already have a base core playbook for offense and smith one for defense, but the formations and play are constantly changing. What is used out that book also should be influenced by the personnel that the team has at hand.

Ibar_Harry · 03-04-2006

While I agree with what some of you are saying, doesn't it have to be put in print? I'm just wondering if its a bigger job than we think or do you think they will simply duplicate some things and rebinder it?

**ArlingtonTexan** · 03-04-2006

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Originally Posted by Ibar_Harry

While I agree with what some of you are saying, doesn't it have to be put in print? I'm just wondering if its a bigger job than we think or do you think they will simply duplicate some things and rebinder it?

As an experienced OC Kubiak already had a playbook that he brought to his interview. My thought is that more your 2nd option with constant pages being modified and added.

sprtsfanatic · 03-04-2006

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Originally Posted by TexanSam

The Texans offense will be very similar to the Broncos offense. It probably won't be a mirror image of it, but it's not like Kubiak is going to design a completely new offense just for the Texans. He'll probably innovate it some, change things up here and there, but the foundation for our offensive scheme comes from the Broncos. I don't think building the playbook is the first priority for the Texans though. Evaluating our roster and college talent should be the main priority. Once the draft is over, then I think the coaches will get to work on the playbook.

Its like the old question of which came first...the chicken or the egg...do you pick players and make plays that they will succeed in or do you have an offense/defense playbook/scheme and you pick players that fit in that mold...it sounds to me like you would side with the first option while I would go with the latter of the two... Hard to pick when you dont know what you need inorder to run it dont ya think?? Or did I just read your post wrong??

bdiddy · 03-04-2006

Offensive playbook (other than new tweaks coaches add each offseason) was completed from the day Kubiak signed his contract. Definsively I think a lot will be learned at mini camps and will have to be tailored to the Texans personnel.

AustinJB · 03-04-2006

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Originally Posted by Wharton

I thought they just changed the logo on the Bronco's playbook.

Off the topic, but.....is this guy in the middle of your smilie PBurnt? Looks like him to me...LOL

rafterticket · 03-06-2006

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Originally Posted by AustinJB

Off the topic, but.....is this guy in the middle of your smilie PBurnt? Looks like him to me...LOL

No way. Holding up his arms would require effort.

thunderkyss · 03-06-2006

shanahan, Sherman, Kubes....... this is what they do.. they live, breath, and drink up offensive schemes and plans all the time. They've probably got rooms and rooms full of books of plays and sets that they've been waiting to find the right players to fit. I'd assume they are looking at our WRs, and instantly think up three or four chapters they'd like to run...... same with our line, our QB, and our RBs..... They've probably been doing lunch over the last 4 weeks trying to get a cohesive plan together... It's going to look a little like Denver, SanFran, and Greenbay....

There's going to be a lot of running, a lot of throwing............deep. and hopefully a lot of scoring...

But no, the playbook is never finished.... not with guys like these.

03-04-2006	#1
Ibar_Harry Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,219 Rep Power: 14	When will the new play book be finished? A lot of us are looking at players offensively and defensively and the Texans keep saying I don't know. Perhaps that's because we don't know what we are going to be doing yet. Perhapes we are still in the designing stage of the book. I would think that is the case, but does anyone have any first hand knowledge of where this part of the puzzle is? I believe the previous organization had a year or so to develop a plan before they had to utilize it. I would think this in itself is a major priority and one that is going to make it tough on Kubiack and his staff. Its not like he has a plan he has already used that is his own. Yes, he has been involved in a lot of schemes, but I would think he would be putting together something that would be unique to the way he thinks things should be done. Will he keep any part of the previous play books? Defense 4-3 to 3-4 and offensively well throw that book away. Young Shan I believe was hired in part because that's what he did a lot of last year. He made up a lot of the play book after it was given to him. He was a paper pusher in his previous job among other things.

03-04-2006	#8
bdiddy Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 8	Offensive playbook (other than new tweaks coaches add each offseason) was completed from the day Kubiak signed his contract. Definsively I think a lot will be learned at mini camps and will have to be tailored to the Texans personnel. __________________ *Mario, what would you like to say to the fans? "I Eat Mannings for Breakfast"*

03-06-2006	#11
thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,756 Rep Power: 51540	shanahan, Sherman, Kubes....... this is what they do.. they live, breath, and drink up offensive schemes and plans all the time. They've probably got rooms and rooms full of books of plays and sets that they've been waiting to find the right players to fit. I'd assume they are looking at our WRs, and instantly think up three or four chapters they'd like to run...... same with our line, our QB, and our RBs..... They've probably been doing lunch over the last 4 weeks trying to get a cohesive plan together... It's going to look a little like Denver, SanFran, and Greenbay.... There's going to be a lot of running, a lot of throwing............deep. and hopefully a lot of scoring... But no, the playbook is never finished.... not with guys like these. __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

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03-04-2006	#2
Wharton Site Contributor Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 47 Posts: 817 Rep Power: 10	I thought they just changed the logo on the Bronco's playbook.

03-04-2006	#3
TexanSam Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston Age: 25 Posts: 16,614 Rep Power: 23265	The Texans offense will be very similar to the Broncos offense. It probably won't be a mirror image of it, but it's not like Kubiak is going to design a completely new offense just for the Texans. He'll probably innovate it some, change things up here and there, but the foundation for our offensive scheme comes from the Broncos. I don't think building the playbook is the first priority for the Texans though. Evaluating our roster and college talent should be the main priority. Once the draft is over, then I think the coaches will get to work on the playbook.

03-04-2006	#4
ArlingtonTexan Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 5,260 Rep Power: 19464	While there are core concepts that a team will employ, a playbook (even boring, non creative offenses) is never really finished. It is an evolving process of adding somethings new and adjusting what you do versus certain schemes etc. Kubiak and Calhoun already have a base core playbook for offense and smith one for defense, but the formations and play are constantly changing. What is used out that book also should be influenced by the personnel that the team has at hand.

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