Texans trade and FA rumors

[Sportsfan]

So the FA date is Mar. 3rd if i'm not mistaken, what rumors are floating around as to who they are talking to?
Personally i'm hoping they can add someone w/some strong leadership on D, preferibly a LB. Another solid d-back would be nice too, maybe an aggresive DE if available at the right price. On offense maybe a solid #2 or #3 WR and an O lineman or 2.

[Malloy]

A FA QB would be interesting too, that would somewhat put a big hole through the VY theory. Who knows, we'll see in a couple of days

[Texas]

I think the Carr extension already put a big hole through the VY theory.

[tulexan]

Originally Posted by Texas

I think the Carr extension already put a big hole through the VY theory.

You would have thought, but the Vince Young fans are pretty committed to their delusions.

[Sportsfan]

Originally Posted by tulexan

You would have thought, but the Vince Young fans are pretty committed to their delusions.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Corrosion]

Tony Banks getting sent to the chopping block at least gives the impression that they could take a QB 1st overall .

As for trades , I think the most desirable trade involving the #1 pick would be a package which would include the Jets 4th overall and next years #1 .
The most probable trade partner I think would be the Raiders who own the 7th pick.

[HJam72]

To go from first to seventh, I would expect a boatload of compensation, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't do it.

[dat_boy_yec]

I don't know if anybody else heard it on 610, but they said the Texans told Walker he might not be back next yr. I think this means he might be put on the trade block otherwise they would have cut him along with everybody else yesterday.

[HJam72]

Originally Posted by dat_boy_yec

I don't know if anybody else heard it on 610, but they said the Texans told Walker he might not be back next yr. I think this means he might be put on the trade block otherwise they would have cut him along with everybody else yesterday.

Walker has been cut.

Edit: Nevermind, I may have spoke too soon. Sorry.

[dat_boy_yec]

Originally Posted by corrosion

Tony Banks getting sent to the chopping block at least gives the impression that they could take a QB 1st overall .

As for trades , I think the most desirable trade involving the #1 pick would be a package which would include the Jets 4th overall and next years #1 .
The most probable trade partner I think would be the Raiders who own the 7th pick.

Actually I think it would be SF at #6 this way we still have a shot at any of the big five that might fall and if not we can take Vernon Davis as a consolation prize. I think the 49ers might do it if the asking price isn't to high, but this yr and next yrs first as well as maybe a third this yr. and a second next yr. outside of that I don't really have any Ideas what might happen.

[feebleminded]

Originally Posted by dat_boy_yec

I don't know if anybody else heard it on 610, but they said the Texans told Walker he might not be back next yr. I think this means he might be put on the trade block otherwise they would have cut him along with everybody else yesterday.

Not that they wouldnt entertain offers for him on a trade, but the reason that he was not cut yesterday, wasnt trade related IMO. If the CBA was done the cap for 06 would be almost $10 MM higher than without. So if the CBA gets done they will let him go immediately. If not, they will wait until after june 1 so that only 1/2 of the cap hit rolls into the 06 cap figure. At least that is the way I understand what they are doing.

[Keldar]

Originally Posted by corrosion

Tony Banks getting sent to the chopping block at least gives the impression that they could take a QB 1st overall .

Could be that the Texans don't think Ragone is anywhere near being a rookie anymore. Why have two "journeyman" back-ups?

[keyfro]

there is going to be a lot of trade rumors flying around but i wouldn't pay that much attention to them...remember without a CBA in place trades are harder to come by without any certainty about the cap

[gtexan02]

Also without a CBA, huge name FAs could be released because of the problematic 95 million cap this year

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by dat_boy_yec

Actually I think it would be SF at #6 this way we still have a shot at any of the big five that might fall and if not we can take Vernon Davis as a consolation prize. I think the 49ers might do it if the asking price isn't to high, but this yr and next yrs first as well as maybe a third this yr. and a second next yr. outside of that I don't really have any Ideas what might happen.

Vernon Davis would be my target at the 7 spot or anywhere below the 4th pick for that matter ..... I Highly doubt that the 49er's would be a viable trade partner . They are in the same boat as the Jets as far as talent goes . Both teams need more picks not less.... which is why i say the most desirable trade is with the Jets but it is also the least likely to happen.

Originally Posted by feebleminded

Not that they wouldnt entertain offers for him on a trade, but the reason that he was not cut yesterday, wasnt trade related IMO. If the CBA was done the cap for 06 would be almost $10 MM higher than without. So if the CBA gets done they will let him go immediately. If not, they will wait until after june 1 so that only 1/2 of the cap hit rolls into the 06 cap figure. At least that is the way I understand what they are doing.

an explination of the reason for waiting until after June 1 from todays Chronicle
Link: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/3692603.html

Waiving Walker before June 1 will cost them $1.5 million against the cap. If they wait until after June 1, the remainder of his prorated signing bonus would come out of the 2007 cap with a new collective bargaining agreement. Without an extension of the collective bargaining agreement, 2007 will be an uncapped year, and teams can spend whatever they want on players.

Originally Posted by Keldar

Could be that the Texans don't think Ragone is anywhere near being a rookie anymore. Why have two "journeyman" back-ups?

I think Kubiak has some faith in Ragone being a capable back-up .... But in general most teams carry at least 3 QB's with their top back-up having more game experience than Ragone . With so many QB's on the FA market this offseason Banks is easily replaced . So there is little risk in cutting him.
Banks would have cost just over $1Mill against the cap for the coming season , Im not sure they can find a game tested QB for that cost . This probably does move Ragone up in the pecking order .... Pending they dont take a QB in the first round. ( I dont really think they will .... But they gave themselves the option by cutting Banks)

[tulexan]

Cutting Carr would have given them an option to draft a QB in the first. Cutting Banks gives them the option to pick up a cheap FA or draft a QB in the second day.

[chuckm]

Originally Posted by corrosion

I think Kubiak has some faith in Ragone being a capable back-up ....

I wouldn't be surprised if Ragone was the backup .... assuming Young isn't drafted of course .... we're assuming Kubiak can "coach up" Carr in additon to protecting him, so why can't he do that for Ragone?

[TEXANS84]

Originally Posted by Hulk75

And also on ESPN insider they say that LeCharles Bentley really likes the Vikings and they go on and on about how much he would like to go there.

Please Mr.McNair give him more money then they do.

Vikings are one if, if not the most under the cap in spending money.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by tulexan

Cutting Carr would have given them an option to draft a QB in the first. Cutting Banks gives them the option to pick up a cheap FA or draft a QB in the second day.

Why would you cut a veteran back-up QB who's cap hit was $1,053,000 when its likely going to cost more than that to replace him via FA.

Its simply a smoke screen to increase the value of the #1.

To replace Banks Via FA would likely cost more than that $1,053,000 .... Drafting a second day QB either moves Ragone up the depth chart or you sign another veteran.

What veteran QB on the FA market would you sugguest the Texans bring in that would cost less ?

[TexansCM]

The Vikes are a ton of money under the cap, it will be hard to match what they can offer. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505