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Old 02-24-2006   #1
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I broke it down as well so its easy and not too strenuous for ya. The part at the bottom thats analysis is what I came up with. Please take this into consideration. I know its not the final say on who we're going after, but if your player isnt on here, oh well. Take this for what you will and please dont B**** about my analysis. NOTE: This is only prspects who we could get anywhere from round 2 - 7. In other words, they didnt include people like D'Brick, Bush, etc. Also, if a player was listed as a CB/WR/RET, I put him in all 3 catagories.

http://www.nextlevelscoutinginc.com/...=34&Itemi d=0

http://www.nflfans.com/x/showthread.php?t=8713

Houston… Eric Winston (Miami, OT), Daryn Colledge (Boise State, OL), Jeremy Trueblood (Boston College, OT), Sinorice Moss (Miami, WR/RT), Maurice Stovall (Notre Dame, WR), Joseph Addai (LSU, RB), Mark Anderson (Alabama, DE), Thomas Olmsted (Troy, P), Kyle Williams (LSU, DT), Kamerion Wimbley (Florida State, DE/OLB), Charles Spencer (Pittsburgh, OL), Greg Blue (Georgia, S), Pat Watkins (Florida State, S), Joe Klopfenstein (Colorado, TE), Dominique Byrd (USC, TE), Cedric Griffin (Texas, DB), Will Allen (Texas, OG), Skyler Green (LSU, WR/RT), Gabe Watson (Michigan, DT), Daniel Bullocks (Nebraska, S), Deuce Lutui (USC, OG), Frostee Rucker (USC, DE), Rocky McIntosh (Miami, LB), Danieal Manning (Abilene Christian, DB/RT), Justin Wyatt (USC, CB), Isaac Sowells (Indiana, OL), Eric Henderson (Georgia Tech, DE), James Wyche (Syracuse, DE), Kevin Boothe (Cornell, OL), Jason Spitz (Louisville, OL), Brandon Hoyte (Notre Dame, LB), James Anderson (Virginia Tech, LB), Charlie Peprah (Alabama, S), Nate Salley (Ohio State, S), Dawan Landry (Georgia Tech, S), Greg Jennings (Western Michigan, WR), Tarvaris Jackson (Alabama State, QB), Gerrick McPhearson (Maryland, CB), Leon Washington (Florida State, RB), Jonathan Orr (Wisconsin, WR), Todd Watkins (BYU, WR), Dwayne Slay (Texas Tech, S), Paul Pinegar (Fresno State, QB), Taurean Henderson (Texas Tech, RB), Jonathan Scifres (SW Missouri State, K), Mike Haas (Oregon State, WR), Gilbert Harris (Arizona, FB/RB), Joe Toledo (Washington, OT), Chris Kuper (North Dakota, OL), Tim Day (Oregon, TE), Reggie McNeal (Texas A&M, QB), Johnny Jolly (Texas A&M, DT), Brandon Williams (Wisconsin, WR/RT), Marques Colston (Hofstra, WR), Bruce Gradkowski (Toledo, QB), Tommy Jackson (Auburn, DT), Josh Huston (Ohio State, K), Devin Hester (Miami, DB/WR/RT)


WR – 11 (Sinorice Moss, Maurice Stovall, Skyler Green, Greg Jennings, Jonathan Orr, Todd Watkins, Mike Hass, Brandon Williams, Reggie McNeal, Marques Colston, Devin Hester)

OT – 7 (Eric Winston, Daryn Colledge, Jeremy Trueblood, Isaac Sowells, Kevin Boothe, Joe Toledo, Chris Kuper)

S – 7 (Greg Blue, Pat Watkins, Daniel Bullocks, Charlie Peprah, Nate Salley, Dawan Landry, Dwayne Slay)

DE – 5 (Mark Anderson, Kamerion Wimbley, Frostee Rucker, Eric Henderson, James Wyche)

CB – 5 (Cedric Griffin, Danieal Manning, Justin Wyatt, Gerrick McPhearson, Devin Hester)

RET – 5 (Devin Hester, Sinorice Moss, Brandon Williams, Skyler Green, Danieal Manning)

DT – 4 (Kyle Williams, Gabe Watson, Johnny Jolly, Tommy Jackson)

QB – 4 (Tarvaris Jackson, Paul Pinegar, Reggie McNeal, Bruce Gradkowski)

OG – 4 (Charles Spencer, Will Allen, Duce Lutui, Jason Spitz)

LB – 4 (Rocky McIntosh, Brandon Hoyte, Kamerion Wimbley, James Anderson)

TE – 3 (Joe Klopfenstein, Dominique Byrd, Tim Day)

RB – 3 (Joseph Addai, Leon Washington, Taurean Henderson)

K – 2 (Jonathan Scifres, Josh Huston)

P – 1 (Thomas Olmsted)

FB – 1 (Gilber Harris)


WR – Moss, Green, Watkins, Williams, and Hester all fit the speed WR profile. Watkins and Hester are the only 2 who crack 6’ and have speed. Hass and Jennings were very productive in college, but have received a lack of attention because they only have average speed and average size. However, they both are smart WRs who know how to get open. Stovall, Colston, and Orr are the massive WRs with great size. Colston is the dark horse here because he’s from Hofstra, but he did great in the East-West shrine game. I put McNeal here because he fits the ‘Randle El’ profile and could play WR in the pros.

OT – Winston and Colledge are the most known at this position and are both great athletes who move well and are exceptional athletes for big guys. Toledo is in a way kind of like both these 2 as well. He started out college as a TE for Washington, but switched to OT after getting too big. For that reason, he excels as an athlete and in pass protection, but lacks strength and experience. However, he does have great size (6’6” 295) and lots of potential. Trueblood and Boothe are both the mauler-type OTs without a lot of athleticism. They both have a lot of size, but because they aren’t fast enough, they may be limited to RT. Boothe has a dominance about him, but played for a small school. Sowells and Kuper are big unknowns to me. I know that Sowell is 6’3” 330 and is a late round (6-7) prospect who is at the combine right now. Kuper is more of an OG than an OT who is a road grater as well. He’s from North Dakota so he gets the small school prospect. Here’s a video I found on him http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...114509&q=kuper .

S – Every single one of these guys are considered big hitters and have great size except Charlie Peprah (5’11” 200). Bullocks is the only one that could be considered a ‘ballhawk’. Greg Blue hasn’t played well in coverage, but like Pen said, he’s got amazing potential. As for Watkins, he’s a massive prospect (6’4” 205) who is a smart player. He moves real well and has decent speed (4.5) as well. His downside is that he needs to get stronger and be more consistent overall. He’s got what you look for in a Safety though.

DE - Everyone except Wyche here is undersized and lacks serious strength, but is an exceptional pass rusher. Wimbley and Henderson are the most known and best of the group. Both can play good against the run while Anderson and Rucker aren’t as good against the run. Wyche is the exact opposite of these guys. He’s got great size (6’6” 270) and is best against the run. He also does a good job rushing the passer, but isn’t anything special when it comes to pass rushing. Where he struggles is his speed and athletic ability.

CB – McPhearson, Manning, and Hester are the CBs with lots of potential, but didn’t produce well in college. McPhearson has amazing speed (4.25 range) and decent size, while Hester has both as well. Manning could be the best in coverage, but went to small D2 Abilene Christian. Wyatts doesn’t have great size or amazing speed, but plays a lot bigger and faster than he is. Griffin has great size, but because he doesn’t have great speed, could move to FS and be productive because of his strong play in run support.

DT – Williams, Jolly, and Jackson are all high motor players who are leaders. They don’t have the best size and aren’t really athletic, but they play hard. Watson is the exact opposite. He has huge size, but can be lazy at times.

QB – Jackson, McNeal, and Gradkowski are the scramblers of the group, Pinegar is the pocket passer. Jackson has good intangibles and is very athletic, but has played at a D-1AA small school. He did a good job over his college career of increasing accuracy and TDs while decreasing INTs. Would be a project player in some respect, but is a great athlete who has tons of potential. Gradkowski reminds me a lot of Jake Plummer gone right, and is great rolling out and in play action. McNeal has gotten the ‘Randle El’ label and rightfully so. He’s very athletic and fast, and could play either WR or QB in the NFL. Pinegar went to Fresno St (same as David Carr) and seems to be on the list because of the similar system they went through.

OG – All 4 OG prospects have good size and are very aggressive blockers. Lutui and Spitz are both the road graters, but Spitz isn’t very athletic and Lutui is too massive which limits his mobility. Spencer is athletic for his size and is the best pass blocker of this group. He played DT for 2 years so he has the defensive mind frame, but he struggles with consistency. Allen is the smartest of the 4 and has the best understanding of the position. He has good size and potential, but needs to get stronger and more athletic.

LB – McIntosh and Anderson both have good size (about 6’3” 235-240) and have the ability to play both inside or outside. Anderson was very productive his senior year and was second on the team in tackles. He also added 2 INTs and 3 sacks, and he started 2 years for Va Tech. Both him and McIntosh are very athletic and have good speed. They also have good potential at the next level. Hoyte however, is undersized (5’11” 235). I don’t know much about him, but from what I hear, he has a nose for the ball and is an effort player who is always in on a play.

TE – Klop, Day, and Byrd all have mass amounts of potential in common. They never had big numbers in college, but all have great potential for the NFL. Klop has good size and speed, and is a good target on intermediary routes. However, he isn’t much of a blocker. Day has huge size and good speed, and is also a solid safety valve. He has more versatility and has lined up in the slot. Good blocker with lots of potential in this area as well. Byrd is the most athletic of the 3 and can stretch the field. He isn’t the best blocker, but gives great effort which helps him out.

RB – Addai, Washington, and Henderson are all very fast, but they all are questionable when it comes to being able to carry the majority of the workload. Addai has more size and can take more of a pounding while Washington and Henderson are in the ‘Brian Westbrook’ mold. They can both catch extremely well and are very shifty and quick runners. They don’t have a lot of power however.

FB – Harris is a very versatile FB. He isn’t very big (6’2” 230), but can catch and block. He actually had 1 game against UCLA where he rushed for over 100 yards. Has good speed, its interesting to see Houston looking beyond an old school FB like Norris (who deserves more credit) and looking at someone who’s a balanced FB.
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Very good analysis...I know you put a lot of time into this.

Just a few questions/additions. How can you not include these players?

DE Ray Edwards
CB Jonathan Joseph
OG Rob Sims
OG Mark Setterstrom
LB Aaron Harris
WR Cory Rodgers
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The only potential Greg Blue has is to blow the game by giving up deep passes on fourth and ten. If the Texans are interested in him they need to string Casserly up. Last year Fred Gibson made my list, this year Greg Blue. Just say no!!!!!!!
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Very good analysis...I know you put a lot of time into this.

Just a few questions/additions. How can you not include these players?

DE Ray Edwards
CB Jonathan Joseph
OG Rob Sims
OG Mark Setterstrom
LB Aaron Harris
WR Cory Rodgers
Its actually not my list. The 1st link are the people who made the list of who've Houston has spoken to so far. This isnt necessarily who we're defintely going after, but its an indicator. The combine will also give us a good idea of who we're looking at. I broke it down and added analysis to see if Houston was going after certain type of prospects at certain positions and so people can better understand some of the uknown porspects.
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Ok, I can understand you trying to cover all of the bases. What I don't get is why you have us even looking at DT's we drafted one last yr. in the first rd. we have three other well paid tackles and well to be honest almost all of the personnel we had on the line last yr. are tackles. RB is another position where we are already set. Even if we weren't, the only RB prospect that should be on our radar is in the first rd.

I also think you put to much emphasis on the WRs and I get the feeling you were trying to get the 60 interviews in here and if that's the case interviewing prospects twice kinda schews the #s because people that are in various categories wouldn't be interviewed various times. Also the list that you made does not reflect second rd. talent except for tackles. You missed alot of quality prospects.

However, overall that is a good list and I am impressed with all the work you must have gone through to put it together.
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Its actually not my list. The 1st link are the people who made the list of who've Houston has spoken to so far. This isnt necessarily who we're defintely going after, but its an indicator. The combine will also give us a good idea of who we're looking at. I broke it down and added analysis to see if Houston was going after certain type of prospects at certain positions and so people can better understand some of the uknown porspects.
Oh, lol sorry I thought it was your list. I don't think many of these guys will be on the radar for the Texans. I think that the contact they had with the prospects before was to get a feel for them and they were doing so under the Capers banner. I think their list is going to be very different as far as the ppl they will interview.
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heres what the website said: Here is a team-by-team list of “Players of Interest” for each team who either spent occasions speaking to all the players listed one-or-more times after one-or-several practices, back in the respective hotel lobbies, in official/un-official meeting/hotel rooms or at the very least requested to speak further with the players after they completed a team profile sheet during the two week evaluation process that took place in mid-to-late January. We have also added a handful of Underclassmen who were interviewed during the week of one of the two games or contacted themselves or through their agents during that period of time.

However, one very interesting note on all of these interviews or meetings is the fact that on occasion teams will actually schedule an interview with a certain player in order to also ask him questions about a current or former teammate, even as far back as someone they played with in high school. In fact, while collecting the data to compile this list one player told us that every team he interviewed with specifically asked him 2-3 pointed questions about one of his college teammates, regarding his own evaluation of that players attitude, character and conduct off-the-field.

Will this be a foreshadow to what or how the teams plan to further evaluate the prospects listed below at the Combine and/or upcoming Pro Days will only prove out in time, but for now it might lend some insight to how teams might look to fill areas of need come April’s NFL Draft.
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Add this guy to the list of WR's...from www.kffl.com

Texans | Team talks with Rodgers
Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:09:34 -0800

During his NFL Combine interview, Texas Christian WR Cory Rodgers said he has talked with the Houston Texans.
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Texans | Team talks with Rodgers
Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:09:34 -0800

During his NFL Combine interview, Texas Christian WR Cory Rodgers said he has talked with the Houston Texans.
Thanks for the info! If you see anything else like this, feel free to post it in here. Im going to try to keep the list going and develop it further so it would be greatly appreciated.
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Winston looked horrible at the Senior Bowl
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Not working. I have him rated as the #4 TE in the draft. Late second round, early third if we're lucky.
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Texans | Team talks to Haralson
Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:57:41 -0800
During his NFL Combine interview, Tennessee DE Parys Haralson said he has met with the Houston Texans.

Texans | Team will meet with M. Williams
Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:21:16 -0800
During his NFL Combine interview, North Carolina State DE Mario Williams said he will meet with the Houston Texans. He said he has six scheduled interviews.

Texans | Team talks with Jolly
Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:09:42 -0800
During his NFL Combine interview, Texas A&M DL Johnny Jolly said he has talked with the Houston Texans.

Texans | Team talks with Rodgers
Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:09:34 -0800
During his NFL Combine interview, Texas Christian WR Cory Rodgers said he has talked with the Houston Texans.


Here's some more from kffl, some are on the previous list some are not.

Other names from other sources:

Jonathan Scott - OT - Texas
Ryan Plackemeir – K – Wake Forest

Harlosn's a bit of a funny guy in interview, as he projects as either a light weight speedy type DE OR a 34 pass rushing OLB, maybe more of a hybrid D is in our future then we thought.

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IHouston… Eric Winston (Miami, OT), Daryn Colledge (Boise State, OL), Jeremy Trueblood (Boston College, OT), OT – Winston and Colledge are the most known at this position and are both great athletes who move well and are exceptional athletes for big guys. Toledo is in a way kind of like both these 2 as well. He started out college as a TE for Washington, but switched to OT after getting too big. For that reason, he excels as an athlete and in pass protection, but lacks strength and experience. However, he does have great size (6’6” 295) and lots of potential. Trueblood and Boothe are both the mauler-type OTs without a lot of athleticism. They both have a lot of size, but because they aren’t fast enough, they may be limited to RT. Boothe has a dominance about him, but played for a small school. Sowells and Kuper are big unknowns to me. I know that Sowell is 6’3” 330 and is a late round (6-7) prospect who is at the combine right now. Kuper is more of an OG than an OT who is a road grater as well. He’s from North Dakota so he gets the small school prospect. Here’s a video I found on him http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...114509&q=kuper .

Judgeing by this list asuming it's not a smoke screen, we're moving down. There are no tackels on this list that beats Pitts out in the '06 season. Winston, right now, is a right tackel at best, with a very injured knee. Anyone watching him move this off season can see this. Collegde is Wand squared.Trueblood & I love the guy mind you, is too slow for our scheme. Wouldn't surprise me though. TY for the info and links. I'll have mine with a grain of salt tyvm.

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"NOTE: This is only prspects who we could get anywhere from round 2 - 7. In other words, they didnt include people like D'Brick, Bush, etc. Also, if a player was listed as a CB/WR/RET, I put him in all 3 catagories."
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