kastofsna Pre-combine 1st rd Mock (with trades)

[kastofsna]

tried to be as realistic as possible here with the various trades

1 - Houston - Reggie Bush, RB, USC
2 - New Orleans - Matt Leinart, QB, USC
3 - Tennessee - Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
4 - N.Y. Jets - D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T, Virginia
5 - Green Bay - DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
6 - Oakland - Mario Williams, DE, NC State
7 - San Francisco - Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
8 - Buffalo - A.J. Hawk, OLB, Ohio State
9 - Denver TRADE: (Detroit receives #22 and #29 picks and a 4th rounder) - Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon
10 - Arizona - Vince Young, QB, Texas
11 - St. Louis - Michael Huff, S, Texas
12 - New England TRADE: (Cleveland receives #21 and two 3rd rounders) - Antonio Cromartie, CB, FSU
13 - Baltimore - Winston Justice, OT, USC
14 - Philadelphia - Lendale White, RB, USC
15 - Atlanta - Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
16 - Miami - Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech
17 - Minnesota - Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa
18 - Dallas - Gabe Watson, DT, Michigan
19 - San Diego - Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina
20 - Kansas City - Broderick Bunkley, DT, FSU
21 - Cleveland f/NE - Manny Lawson, DE/LB, NC State
22 - Detroit f/DEN f/WAS - Marcus McNeill, T, Auburn
23 - Tampa Bay - Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
24 - Cincinnati - Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia
25 - N.Y. Giants - Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State
26 - Chicago - Max Jean-Giles, G, Georgia
27 - Carolina - Cad Jackson, WR, Florida
28 - Jacksonville - Tye Hill, CB, Clemson
29 - Detroit f/DEN - Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State
30 - Indianapolis - Ernie Sims, LB, FSU
31 - Seattle - Darnell Bing, S, USC
32 - Pittsburgh - Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami (FL)

[Coach C.]

So K like some of the picks others not sure on why would NE trade up to get a guy that is falling when they can stay put and get a guy like Lawson or Tye Hill. Also, do you think Simeon Rice is a cap casualty in Tampa because they need OL help alot more than DL help.

On the other side of things I see brilliance in the Pitt pick, but no way GB passes over Mario to take a RB. Deangelo will be a guy that falls likely to Minnesota or someone of the like. Also Baltimore is not bringing back lewis may keep Taylor do you see them shoring up that right side which I think is definately a possiblity.

Other than a couple of things like I mentioned I think it is a pretty good draft, would like to see your explanations on the picks to see what you were thinking on them.

[kastofsna]

Originally Posted by Coach C.

So K like some of the picks others not sure on why would NE trade up to get a guy that is falling when they can stay put and get a guy like Lawson or Tye Hill. Also, do you think Simeon Rice is a cap casualty in Tampa because they need OL help alot more than DL help.

On the other side of things I see brilliance in the Pitt pick, but no way GB passes over Mario to take a RB. Deangelo will be a guy that falls likely to Minnesota or someone of the like. Also Baltimore is not bringing back lewis may keep Taylor do you see them shoring up that right side which I think is definately a possiblity.

Other than a couple of things like I mentioned I think it is a pretty good draft, would like to see your explanations on the picks to see what you were thinking on them.

- cromartie is falling? if he has a good 40 time at the combine he could be a top 10 pick. top 15 guaranteed. new england trades up because they have more picks than anyone in the draft and having ties with romeo crennel, they're able to get a deal done
- rice could be a casualty, which was a partial reason for the pick. the other side of the line isn't too fearsome either
- i see jamal lewis resigning with the ravens. justice will be groomed to be the future left tackle. the packers will take deangelo as ahman green won't be back. williams is a great receiver as well as a great runner, so he'll help out tremendously in the development of aaron rodgers

[Maddict5]

denver would never have to give up that much- either #22 and a 3rd and 4th
or #29 and a second.bills are in a bit of cap jail i think so wouldnt mind trading down. pats arent a team that move up either-cromartie would likely fall to them and if not theres tye hill, youbuty etc or jennings in the 2nd

[YoungTexanFan]

I do not think Tenn. would take Cutler at #3. I think they will either go VY, most possible, but if we do not take D'brick, I could see Tenn. taking him at #3. I see only those two players being taken.

With the Packers, if they pass on Mario for a RB, it will be Lendale White. They are stated it would be hard to pass him at #5.

I do not think Vernon Davis will go top 10. He will be the first TE, but I realisticly expect around 14-16.

Cromartie is a great physical talent, but has been out of the game for a while. I think he will be a first rounder, but no need to trade up to #12 for him. He will be a steal where he is picked. I look for him to go right about where NE is already picking.

Gabe Watson in the middle of the first round? I think he will be lucky to go middle of the second. I expect him to go mid-late second.

Other than that, I feel most of the players could go there. I do have some questions about certian players to select teams, but nice effort. Much appreciated.

[YodAa]

5 - Green Bay - DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis

If the take an RB here it'll be White, but if not they should go with Mario Williams.

6 - Oakland - Mario Williams, DE, NC State

Not if Young is available, he'd be a steal at 6 and he's a need for them. I don't think expect to be back at the top of the draft again and with a QB which they need is there, and lots of vet QBs in FA this year Vince will be a Raider.

8 - Buffalo - A.J. Hawk, OLB, Ohio State
LB isn't a need, DT is. Ngata is their pick.

12 - New England TRADE: (Cleveland receives #21 and two 3rd rounders) - Antonio Cromartie, CB, FSU

Why are they trading up for a guy they could get at 21, even though it'd be a small reach there? Had you said Williams, or Greenway that'd be a different story.

14 - Philadelphia - Lendale White, RB, USC

How is RB even a need for them? Westbrook, Moats.

I give your draft a B+ grade cause you had some really weird picks but then you had even more impressive I-can't-beleive-I-never-saw-it-that-way picks down at the bottom