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Old 02-17-2006   #1
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It was announced last night that P-burnt is going to be a Texan again. Am I wrong or did the Raiders celebrate when we dove into the the big black hole and came out with one of the worst corners in football to replace one of the best corners? I talked with 610 radio and asked what position he would play?
I suggested Fire Starter as he is the master at getting Burnt. Somebody try to convince me he is actually worth a jock strap in trade please.

For those of you less educated I am talking bout Phillip Bucannon AKA Showtime AKA No Time
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Maybe he will get a spark and start playing up to his potential. Hopefully Robinson knocks some sense into him in the offseason. The guy has a lot of potential, it just seems like he is lazy on the field.
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It was announced last night that P-burnt is going to be a Texan again. Am I wrong or did the Raiders celebrate when we dove into the the big black hole and came out with one of the worst corners in football to replace one of the best corners? I talked with 610 radio and asked what position he would play?
I suggested Fire Starter as he is the master at getting Burnt. Somebody try to convince me he is actually worth a jock strap in trade please.

For those of you less educated I am talking bout Phillip Bucannon AKA Showtime AKA No Time
He gets one more free pass due to him being AJ's best friend and all. I'm not saying that is the real reason, just that I see AJ going to bat for him and saying things like :"give 'em one more chance" and "he's better than that" and etc......

Besides Joe, what's the difference. We seem to be in the business of keeping or acquiring poor talent (T. Couch??). We're turning into the Rd 1 Flameouts Refuge of Drafts Past.

Maybe if we're lucky while Casserly is sleeping he will get a visit from Vince Lombardi (the Ghost of Drafts/Trades Past), then a visit from Hank Stram (the Ghost of Drafts/Trades Present), and then a visit from himself in the future in the year 2010 (the Ghost of Drafts/Trades Future).
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I believe he is another victum of the ineptness of the previous coaching staff and the schemes they were employing. Even DROB didn't look that good last year. The Raiders coaching staff was not exactly the best in the world either. This is a different year and I think everyone is going to be surprised and I would not write off any player based on the previous coaching staff and the positions they placed the players in. They played schemes and called plays that were dommed to failure. Relax and let the new coaching staff show you what the game is really all about.
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I believe he is another victum of the ineptness of the previous coaching staff and the schemes they were employing. Even DROB didn't look that good last year. The Raiders coaching staff was not exactly the best in the world either. This is a different year and I think everyone is going to be surprised and I would not write off any player based on the previous coaching staff and the positions they placed the players in. They played schemes and called plays that were dommed to failure. Relax and let the new coaching staff show you what the game is really all about.
Can you teach tackling this late in someone's career? The guy is a flat out pathetic tackler and I have no confidence in him.
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I agree with him getting 1 more year, however we still need to pick up another CB as a safty net. His cap number is really small and with a new staff and mentality he could be good.
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Can you teach tackling this late in someone's career? The guy is a flat out pathetic tackler and I have no confidence in him.
As a matter of fact, yes tackling can be taught, but speed can not. Hands can not be taught, but you can help people to learn how to do a better job of caching the ball. PBUC has a lot of physicall assets that have never been utilized. I think he could possibly be one of the real surprises next year. As I have stated, I don't believe anyone has a true idea of how bad the previous coaching staff was. Relax and let it happen.
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As a matter of fact, yes tackling can be taught, but speed can not. Hands can not be taught, but you can help people to learn how to do a better job of caching the ball. PBUC has a lot of physicall assets that have never been utilized. I think he could possibly be one of the real surprises next year. As I have stated, I don't believe anyone has a true idea of how bad the previous coaching staff was. Relax and let it happen.
Fundamental tackling can be taught, but usually once a pansy always a pansy. He's going to have to change that for himself, not with coaching.
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Fundamental tackling can be taught, but usually once a pansy always a pansy. He's going to have to change that for himself, not with coaching.
Tackling is also a result of enthusiasm for the game. Who was enthusiastic last year. I will say, not even DROB. Wait and see what happens. Like I said, don't write anyone off, particularly when they obviously have above average physical skills.
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Can you teach tackling this late in someone's career? The guy is a flat out pathetic tackler and I have no confidence in him.
I would have agreed with you early on in the season when he let someone walk into the endzone without touching him. Now I am not so sure, I saw him deliver a crazy tackle one time that left me with my mouth open. True the technique was horrible he threw his body at him like a missile and didn't wrap up or anything but the fact that he made that tackle impressed me. Learning tackling techniques and hanging out with D-rob will have a positive influence on him I'm sure, but the guy shouldn't be written off just yet.
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He has a small salary. No surprise he is coming back.
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I think its more of having the mentality of a loser . I'm not sure a pansy could have made it to the NFL .

A losers point of view would be why tackle him their going to score anyway . That looked like PBuch and thats more disturbing than being a pansy .
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After reading all the posts in this thread it made me think of putting buchanon at WR. I dont know how good his hands are but I do know he is good with the ball in his hands. Im sure most of you would say that its a bad idea and your probably right but why not give him a chance in training camp and see what he can do.
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When you consider his salary and his physical potential, keeping him is the right thing to do. He could easily still be a bust, but it's worth taking another look at.
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He has a small salary. No surprise he is coming back.
Agreed. There is little risk to keeping P-buc. And if he doesn't look good in pre-season, there's nothing that says we have to play him. But I think like most of the team, he will look a lot better under new coaching.
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#21 didn't tackle worth a damn...but he was one of the best corners in his prime..

PBuc can't tackle (lack of stones), can't cover (lack of smarts)

We turn him into a wedge buster on kickoffs. He doesn't hit there, he doesn't play at all.
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Isn't he from the same draft class as Carr.
Oh yeah, we're giving those guys a free pass.
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Isn't he from the same draft class as Carr.
Oh yeah, we're giving those guys a free pass.
this has nothing to do with Carr

you're obsession has made you ignorant to the Texans...there are 52 other players dressed on gameday that don't play QB
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Fundamental tackling can be taught, but usually once a pansy always a pansy. He's going to have to change that for himself, not with coaching.
Often true. But, after getting demoted last year his tackling dramatically improved--I didn't say became great or even solid, but it was a lot better (granted he had a long way to go). Then he got injured. The guy is dirt cheap and is absolutely someone to watch to see what the new staff can do with.
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Isn't he from the same draft class as Carr.
Oh yeah, we're giving those guys a free pass.
How about you stop trolling trying to interject a cruddy Carr coment into every discussion? Everyone on the MB is well aware of your dislike for him and you are free to keep expressing it in topical threads but this kind of thing is useless and juvenile.
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