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DRIFTAWAY · 02-13-2006

dont the broncos own the redskins draft pick?

Fiddy · 02-13-2006

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Originally Posted by DRIFTAWAY

dont the broncos own the redskins draft pick?

according to sportsline.com, they dont...

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/update

DRIFTAWAY · 02-13-2006

oh hm i was under the impression Broncos had 2 late first rounders, i might have heard wrong though

**TEXANS84** · 02-13-2006

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Originally Posted by DRIFTAWAY

oh hm i was under the impression Broncos had 2 late first rounders, i might have heard wrong though

I actually think you are right, with the Broncos owning #22 and #29. Strange thing is that NFL.com and cbssportsline.com is not reporting it.

Sarg01 · 02-13-2006

Great Blue North Report has done a lot of work on draft order. Here's what they have:

http://www.gbnreport.com/fulldraftorder.html

Even got things like conditional picks from trades and such.

YoungTexanFan · 02-13-2006

ya, i took the broncos under the impression that they had 2 picks. We did it that way in the other MB mock, and I have seen every mock having two first round picks and have seen plenty of discusions about their two picks.

TexanBacker93 · 02-13-2006

The Broncos have the Redskins 1st round pick, #22, and their 4th round pick, #118 from the trade during the 2005 draft. The Redskins acquired Denver's 1st round pick so they could draft Jason Campbell. ESPN and the Redskins website have it correct as do most of the major mock draft scouting sites. I have no idea why CBS has it incorrect. NFL.COM is associated with them so that why they have it incorrect as well.

**Khari** · 02-13-2006

http://www.redskins.com/news/draftCe...l.jsp?id=14118

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Indeed, the draft could become the Broncos' busiest in years in terms of the number of selections available. The Broncos have extra first- and fourth-round selections thanks to their April 2005 trade with the Washington Redskins. They don't have a seventh-round pick, which they surrendered in the trade for Todd Sauerbrun, but Shanahan expects the team to receive compensatory picks for free-agent losses that included defensive end Reggie Hayward and safety Kenoy Kennedy last offseason.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.ph...4&storyID=5272

texman8 · 02-13-2006

Didn't Raiders win coin flip with 49ers? So it should be Raiders at #6, 49ers at #7.

Fiddy · 02-13-2006

Ok Broncos have the Skins pick, my bad everyone...

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Originally Posted by texman8

Didn't Raiders win coin flip with 49ers? So it should be Raiders at #6, 49ers at #7.

There was a report that said the Raiders won it on Jan. 2nd but the NFL said the coin flip would be held after the Super Bowl and I havent heard about the flip yet...

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/...s/13535021.htm

**Vinny** · 02-14-2006

I will update this after I make some coffee...I wasn't in yesterday after noon...sorry for the non-reply to the PM's to all. Selections only in this thread please...I'm going to delete this message when I update the mock. If we don't have a pick discussion thread up I will make one...or move the off-topic there when I finish.

thanks,
V

**Khari** · 02-14-2006

Discussion in this thread....

Selections only in the selection thread...

**Vinny** · 02-14-2006

fine! saves me some trouble..thanks

**Khari** · 02-14-2006

i beat u!

**beerlover** · 02-14-2006

a very muted response to the Texans selection

no BIG offers.....not that surprising, fact the record shows Carr is the Texans QB resigned to a 3 year multi-million dollar extension and the new coach is a former QB who develops QB's makes alot of sense for the 1st time in franchise history the Texans take the BPA

Blake · 02-14-2006

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Originally Posted by beerlover

a very muted response to the Texans selection

no BIG offers.....not that surprising, fact the record shows Carr is the Texans QB resigned to a 3 year multi-million dollar extension and the new coach is a former QB who develops QB's makes alot of sense for the 1st time in franchise history the Texans take the BPA

Its hard to get a good offer, when I cant accept future picks, or veterans, and we are only doing a 4 round mock...

Although for the sake of taking a big need, I would have taken a 2nd and 3rd to swap with the Jets. But couldnt make it happen.

Hottoddie · 02-14-2006

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Originally Posted by THE NFL DRAFT

Its hard to get a good offer, when I cant accept future picks, or veterans, and we are only doing a 4 round mock...

Although for the sake of taking a big need, I would have taken a 2nd and 3rd to swap with the Jets. But couldnt make it happen.

Did you look into trading down to the 10-15 range & then trading back up to the 4th pick? I know that the Jets have a lot of needs to fill & might've been willing to drop down a little for an extra pick, or two.

While you might not have gotten a boat load of picks, if this draft allowed us to trade players, you might have picked up a young player.

For instance, in Dunta_23's mock, I made a trade that involved a couple of picks, but I was able to pick up Matt Roth in the deal. That way, you can give up all the picks you acquired (assuming you had to) to move back up to #4 to select D'Brick, & still have a young player to show for your efforts.

Sarg01 · 02-14-2006

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Originally Posted by Hottoddie

For instance, in Dunta_23's mock, I made a trade that involved a couple of picks, but I was able to pick up Matt Roth in the deal. That way, you can give up all the picks you acquired (assuming you had to) to move back up to #4 to select D'Brick, & still have a young player to show for your efforts.

In this mock, however, he's not allowed to trade for Matt Roth or any other signed player. He's not allowed to trade for future picks. With the rules set the way they were, I can't imagine anyone trading up to #1. Only #2 and #3 could afford to, and neither team had any reason to.

**Vinny** · 02-14-2006

The first year we did this (way back when) we had a billion silly trades that were unrealistic and impossible due to cap or whatever....everyone just ends up arguing about what is possible and what isn't, so we have just left it out since then. When you can trade anyone for anything it's just a circus with everyone swapping something. It just tends to be less realistic than a mock with fewer trades that may not be ideal...but is closer to normal than total chaos.

swtbound07 · 02-14-2006

The Falcons Have traded with the Raiders

Falcons get
#7 overall pick

Raiders Get
#15 overall pick
Falcons 2nd Round pick. Unsure of number

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Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	fine! saves me some trouble..thanks __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

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Khari Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, Tx and Surrounding Area Section: Varies Age: 35 Posts: 5,406 Rep Power: 8517	i beat u! __________________

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Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	The first year we did this (way back when) we had a billion silly trades that were unrealistic and impossible due to cap or whatever....everyone just ends up arguing about what is possible and what isn't, so we have just left it out since then. When you can trade anyone for anything it's just a circus with everyone swapping something. It just tends to be less realistic than a mock with fewer trades that may not be ideal...but is closer to normal than total chaos. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

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DRIFTAWAY All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southeast Houston Age: 61 Posts: 996 Rep Power: 9	Mock 1: Discussion Thread - All mock draft discussion here dont the broncos own the redskins draft pick? __________________ 2007 NBA Champs- Rockets- 55+ wins Coach of the Year- Jeff Van Gundy MVP- Tracy Mcgrady Most Improved- Juwan Howard

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YoungTexanFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,791 Rep Power: 653	ya, i took the broncos under the impression that they had 2 picks. We did it that way in the other MB mock, and I have seen every mock having two first round picks and have seen plenty of discusions about their two picks. __________________ The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we had when we created them.

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TexanBacker93 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cypress, TX Age: 42 Posts: 1,618 Rep Power: 3447	The Broncos have the Redskins 1st round pick, #22, and their 4th round pick, #118 from the trade during the 2005 draft. The Redskins acquired Denver's 1st round pick so they could draft Jason Campbell. ESPN and the Redskins website have it correct as do most of the major mock draft scouting sites. I have no idea why CBS has it incorrect. NFL.COM is associated with them so that why they have it incorrect as well.

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texman8 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: north houston Posts: 447 Rep Power: 10	Didn't Raiders win coin flip with 49ers? So it should be Raiders at #6, 49ers at #7.

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beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,358 Rep Power: 15075	a very muted response to the Texans selection no BIG offers.....not that surprising, fact the record shows Carr is the Texans QB resigned to a 3 year multi-million dollar extension and the new coach is a former QB who develops QB's makes alot of sense for the 1st time in franchise history the Texans take the BPA

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