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Old 02-06-2006   #1
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Default If Carr Were in This Year's Draft, How Would You Rank Him?

Just for kicks, try to imagine that Carr was coming out in this year's draft. How would you rank him compared to the other QB prospects if you were ranking the top 5?

My purpose is not to start another bash Carr/pro VY thread, I'm just curious to see what others think. I also know that this doesn't necessarily answer any questions about what we should do b/c we have a lot of money wrapped up in Carr...but just humor me please.


Here's my list:

1. Young
2. Cutler
3. Leinart
4. Carr
5. Jacobs
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Based on his talent coming out of College, probably 4th, and in the 10-15 area of the first round.
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1. Leinart
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Based on his talent coming out of College, probably 4th, and in the 10-15 area of the first round.
Hey but what about the game versus the Trojans where FSU put up 40 something points. They were defending National Champions.

Don't mind me, just thinking out loud what this debate would have looked like.

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#1, he had an amazing college season.
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  1. carr
  2. leinart
  3. young
I think that he would be the second pick to NO because he has a much stronger arm than leinart and was as high;y thougth of out of college.
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Like everyone else in this Draft, somewhere behind Reggie Bush.
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no way #1 Probably second round, especially when he causes half of the sacks himself by holding the ball.

P.S. i don't want D'Brick!
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If Carr were in this year's draft he'd probably be right up there with Young and Leinhart. A lot of people will probably say that he should be down there by Cutler but you've got to look at it as if we didn't know Carr was going to be a bust yet.
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Just coming out of college:

Carr
Leinhert
Jacobs
Young
Croyle
Cutler
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Carr would still be a great NFL prospect. I would see him as #3. I doubt he would be able to get past Young because of his athleticism and momentum and Leinart has championships and a longer record of success against better competition.

Carr had some knocks on his game, low release point, holds the ball too long, played in a very weak WAC. However, I believe he would be ahead of Cutler. Funny, no one has mentioned this, but the current non-Ronnie Coleman king of bodybuilding is Jay Cutler. Football Jay Cutler is getting tons of hype on Favre-like potential with a very good 2005. Carr would have compared favorably with respect to mobility and performance, with arm strength being a wash. Cutler played well with a relatively weak team in a dominant conference, so he'd be seen as more battle tested. I don't think either prospect was or is as "sexy" as Leinart and Young. Whether that's a testament to ability or the size of the stage they played on, I don't know.
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1.Omar Jacobs

2.David Carr

3.Brodie Croyle

4.Vince Young

5.Matt Leinart
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not even in the first round.
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Based on his talent coming out of College, probably 4th, and in the 10-15 area of the first round.
WHAT?!?!?!? Coming out of college he had thrown for 4800 yards and 48 TD's. Coming out of college, he would be number one by a long shot.
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Carr would still be a great NFL prospect. I would see him as #3. I doubt he would be able to get past Young because of his athleticism and momentum and Leinart has championships and a longer record of success against better competition.

Carr had some knocks on his game, low release point, holds the ball too long, played in a very weak WAC. However, I believe he would be ahead of Cutler. Funny, no one has mentioned this, but the current non-Ronnie Coleman king of bodybuilding is Jay Cutler. Football Jay Cutler is getting tons of hype on Favre-like potential with a very good 2005. Carr would have compared favorably with respect to mobility and performance, with arm strength being a wash. Cutler played well with a relatively weak team in a dominant conference, so he'd be seen as more battle tested. I don't think either prospect was or is as "sexy" as Leinart and Young. Whether that's a testament to ability or the size of the stage they played on, I don't know.
Damn that Pac-10! When DC plays against it, its easier, when Leinart is in the same conferance, its a tougher scheduele!
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WHAT?!?!?!? Coming out of college he had thrown for 4800 yards and 48 TD's. Coming out of college, he would be number one by a long shot.
um no, he wouldnt.

Numbers don't mean much when you play in a pass happy offense in the wac. im sure u know all about the ttech qb's.

talent is what they look at. Carr is similar to Cutler in athleticism and arm strength.

Vince is the best athlete at the qb position probably ever.

Leinart is the most polished qb prospect since peyton manning.

Both were high profile qb's under enormous pressure day in day out. and they always delivered.

sorry, but these 2 are two of the best qb prospects of the past 10 years. Carr is and was not.

Carr wasnt even visibly better than joey harrington....

and i would rank them
1. Young
2. Leinart
3. Carr
4. Cutler
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if it was based on college numbers..

Lienart
Carr
Young
Cutler

I rate him above Young because Carr has the tools to be the traditional pocket QB..and enough athleticism to roll out and avoid a collapsing pocket.
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It took Big Ben only two years to hit Super Bowl pay dirt, the maturation evident with the teams full support upon his shoulders. He doesn't always throw it perfect but what he has learned is how to win and lead a team to a Championship. If I hear one more arguement for arm strength and athleticism I'm going to puke. Give me leadership and decision making first & foremost.
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It took Big Ben only two years to hit Super Bowl pay dirt, the maturation evident with the teams full support upon his shoulders. He doesn't always throw it perfect but what he has learned is how to win and lead a team to a Championship. If I hear one more arguement for arm strength and athleticism I'm going to puke. Give me leadership and decision making first & foremost.
Well, if you just want to argue on those merits, your order would look like this:

Leinhert
Jacobs
Young
Carr
Croyle
Cutler

hmm....seems VERY similar to how I ranked them.
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Young
Leinart
Carr
Jacobs

Carr had a great season his senior year but he played against the Pac-10. Leinart and Co rolled through the Pac-10 and vcame within a yard of the natlo championship. Young's versatility won the Natl championship so i place him higher then Leinart.
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