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Old 01-28-2006   #1
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i sure hope so but its not looking good so far if he wasnt able with the broncos with a much better roundedfootball team it will be hard with a franchise in need of so much help from QB to Defense like us but it can happen i say in about 7 years we should be in contention.
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wow.. three people voted "no".

I really hate our fanbase. I dont think ANY other team in this league has fans so pessimistic and uninformed. Who would vote NO to Kubiak's chances to get this team to the superbowl?

9 years coaching and Kubiak has THREE superbowl rings. He is without a doubt the BEST young coach in the league right now. ESPN has him as one of their top 5 new coaches to take their team to the superbowl, despite the fact that he doesnt have any HC experience.

Our fanbase sucks. I wish I had been born in Green Bay or New York or Pittsburgh... even DALLAS might have been bearable. This is such a depressingly horrible fanbase.
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An offense cannot win championships by itself.
A defense cannot win championships by itself.

The Broncos got whooped in the AFC championship because their defense couldn't contain the Pittsburgh offense moreso than because their offense couldn't score enough.
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Just because the Broncos didn't make it this year doesn't mean that Kubiak won't lead the Texans to one. The Broncos made it twice in the 90s and Kubiak also went there with the 49ers. I believe he can and will...with Carr as our QB!
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wow.. three people voted "no".

I really hate our fanbase. I dont think ANY other team in this league has fans so pessimistic and uninformed. Who would vote NO to Kubiak's chances to get this team to the superbowl?

9 years coaching and Kubiak has THREE superbowl rings. He is without a doubt the BEST young coach in the league right now. ESPN has him as one of their top 5 new coaches to take their team to the superbowl, despite the fact that he doesnt have any HC experience.

Our fanbase sucks. I wish I had been born in Green Bay or New York or Pittsburgh... even DALLAS might have been bearable. This is such a depressingly horrible fanbase.
Man, it is sad to say, but I agree with you 100%. The fans in other cities are so much better than Houston fans. Why is this?
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It is hard to say that the guy will take us to the Super Bowl. Bottom line is, there were a good handful of teams this year that played some great football all year long, and they aren't in the Super Bowl. Some of them haven't made a Super Bowl in years, decades even.

I like Kubiak and think he is going to do big things for this team. I expect us to be in the playoffs within 3-5 years, even. I expect we can make a Super Bowl. But I think it is awfully presumptuous to say that we will. (unless of course we draft Vince Young, then we will make about three of them.)

I went ahead and voted yes because I think we have a really good chance at it, but I would be very hesitant to bet substantially on it. You can be a perenially great football team (i.e. Colts) and not make a Super Bowl. We are too far down the totem pole, with too many gaps and too many unknowns, to predict that kind of success.
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I Voted no because Kubiak will likely get run out of town in the next three years if he is not Succesfull and honestly i still think we are 5 to 7 years away from even being in contention for a superbowl. now i could be ignorant and say oh yes he is going to take us to the superbowl in he's first year and we will win the next 4 super bowls to become a dinasty but im not that much of a homer.
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fire away. i voted no as a reply to the question, "will kubiak send the texans to the superbowl". given the fact that the coaching profession is a revolving door, given our lack of talent, given that we've got a rookie HC, and given that we're building from square one again (much like the browns) ... i dont think we'll make it to the superbowl under kubiak. i've got good feelings that we'll see a big improvement, and will have a legitimate shot at playoffs in the near future, but that's not the question.

untwist the panties grid, that doesnt mean that i'm not rooting for the texans to win a superbowl next season and every season. what it means is that in this knee-jerk football world, odds are against any head coach outside of pittsburgh to have a long tenure, and i dont think a superbowl appearance is going to happen immediately.
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Yes the league is a revolving door, but the fact that Mcnair was hoping that Capers could just string a couple of wins together to come up with any kind of case of retaining him, tells me that for the most part Mcnair is a pretty patient guy and is going to give Kubes his chance. Kubiak just has to put up solid seasons and he's going to get plenty of time to get this team into the big dance. Plus the next change isn't going to be the coach It'll be the GM. Kubiak is comming into a great situation.
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Agreed. I have a feeling that Casserly wasn't as bad as we all think he is at his job and the last coaching staff was a LOT worse than we all thought they were at their jobs.
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wow.. three people voted "no".

I really hate our fanbase. I dont think ANY other team in this league has fans so pessimistic and uninformed. Who would vote NO to Kubiak's chances to get this team to the superbowl?

9 years coaching and Kubiak has THREE superbowl rings. He is without a doubt the BEST young coach in the league right now. ESPN has him as one of their top 5 new coaches to take their team to the superbowl, despite the fact that he doesnt have any HC experience.

Our fanbase sucks. I wish I had been born in Green Bay or New York or Pittsburgh... even DALLAS might have been bearable. This is such a depressingly horrible fanbase.
I said something pretty similar.......3 years ago. Guess our fanbase isn't like fine wine, just get's worse with time. We are the screw top of fan bases.
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The fans in other cities are so much better than Houston fans. Why is this?
This MB doesn't necessarily speak for the fanbase. And we should be really glad for that. There's lots of worse fanbases than this one.

Believe me...I married into an Eagles family that splintered off into a rebel Cowboys faction.

There is really no hope for the Eagles and their snow-covered battery-throwing fans.
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i voted no...you know why? because i refuse to predict sucess until houston addresses its pass protection...period. Games are won in lost in the trenches, not on the sidelines...kubiak fixes our porous o-line then i'll say he can take us to the promised land.
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I did not vote, but the most likely answer is NO! That has nothing to do with the fact Kubiak is a bad, mediocore or great coach. There have been like 20-25 coaches in 40 years to win a Superbowl. I don't know the exact number of people who coached NFL teams during that time frame, but I am going to guess at least 250, so at least 90% chance that he does not win a Superbowl.

That's why I am justing hoping.
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I voted yes - why not? We have just as much chance as all of the other teams if Kubiak plugs a few gaping holes and is half the coach I think he is. I'll grant you that the odds of going to a SB aren't in our favor - but who thought the Steelers would end up there this year? I honestly think the Texans can do this if they are all dedicated to making it happen. Big if - but entirely possible.
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I did not vote, but the most likely answer is NO! That has nothing to do with the fact Kubiak is a bad, mediocore or great coach. There have been like 20-25 coaches in 40 years to win a Superbowl. I don't know the exact number of people who coached NFL teams during that time frame, but I am going to guess at least 250, so at least 90% chance that he does not win a Superbowl.

That's why I am justing hoping.
good post. Just look at this week’s Super Bowl. One team has never been there - ever (Seahawks founded in 1976), and the other team is a storied franchise that has won 4 of them....but hasn't won one in a couple of decades (1980). There are still a handful of franchises that have never been to one much less win one.
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I did not vote, but the most likely answer is NO! That has nothing to do with the fact Kubiak is a bad, mediocore or great coach. There have been like 20-25 coaches in 40 years to win a Superbowl. I don't know the exact number of people who coached NFL teams during that time frame, but I am going to guess at least 250, so at least 90% chance that he does not win a Superbowl.
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This came up once before and I recall taking a look at that one rainy day. I posted it on here or somewhere else - can't remember ..... but I think the percentage was something around 15% of head coaches all time that ever made it to the SB....

Edit: I found it. This was from a year ago but since Holmgren and Cowher are repeats, the 38 number is still accurate, but the 293 number would have to be increased by the number of new head coaches in the league in '05. So, you're looking at around a 10% chance that any head coach will take his team to the Super Bowl in his career.

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There's only two head coaches out of 32 that get to the Super Bowl each year. Plus, out of 293 opportunities since 1966, only 38 head coaches (13%) have ever taken a team to the Super Bowl. So playing the odds, there's a 87% chance that any head coach we (or any other team) brings in won't make it the the Super Bowl.
The percentages are strongly stacked against Kubiak (and any other coach in the NFL) that they will take their team to the Super Bowl, much less win it.

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