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Old 01-28-2006   #1
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Default This VY situation has happened before

Someone mentioned on ESPN about the Texans fans public outcry for the hometown hero quarterback and stated this situation happened before in Pittsburgh.

The uneducated "homer" fans of Pittsburgh were crying for the Steelers to draft the hometown hero Dan Marino (who went to Pitt), however Steeler brass ignored them and instead listened to their "experts" which opted them to go with Mark Malone as their QB.

While Marino was having a Hall of Fame career in Miami, the Steelers went through Mark Malone, Bubby Brister, Kordell Stewart, Neil O'Donnell, Tommy Maddox, just to name a few.

I guess this proves the fans are not ALWAYS wrong.
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no the fans arent always wrong. But they usually are when it comes to draft prospects.
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Charles Rogers anyone?
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'Nother VY thread in disguise. Damn, been duped by about 3 or 4 or those this week.
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'Nother VY thread in disguise. Damn, been duped by about 3 or 4 or those this week.
Disguise? LOL, I put VY in the title.
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While Marino was having a Hall of Fame career in Miami, the Steelers went through Mark Malone, Bubby Brister, Kordell Stewart, Neil O'Donnell, Tommy Maddox, just to name a few.
Bad example there, good buddy! If the Texans draft Vince Young, we will have another Kordell Stewart on our hands.

No, thank You!
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Bad example there, good buddy! If the Texans draft Vince Young, we will have another Kordell Stewart on our hands.

No Thank You!
you expect anyone to take you seriously when you say Vince Young is like Slash?
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Someone mentioned on ESPN about the Texans fans public outcry for the hometown hero quarterback and stated this situation happened before in Pittsburgh.

The uneducated "homer" fans of Pittsburgh were crying for the Steelers to draft the hometown hero Dan Marino (who went to Pitt), however Steeler brass ignored them and instead listened to their "experts" which opted them to go with Mark Malone as their QB.

While Marino was having a Hall of Fame career in Miami, the Steelers went through Mark Malone, Bubby Brister, Kordell Stewart, Neil O'Donnell, Tommy Maddox, just to name a few.

I guess this proves the fans are not ALWAYS wrong.
Good point, but if Houston passes on Vince, they won't be picking a QB.... that would stif the masses fo sho
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you expect anyone to take you seriously when you say Vince Young is like Slash?
Coming from a longhorn fan? No, I don't suppose you would.
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Coming from a longhorn fan? No, I don't suppose you would.

no, coming from anyone that knows any a small amount about the sport of football.

its such a ridiculous and stupid comparison. Wow they were both black and can run, they must be the same, right?
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Someone mentioned on ESPN about the Texans fans public outcry for the hometown hero quarterback and stated this situation happened before in Pittsburgh.

The uneducated "homer" fans of Pittsburgh were crying for the Steelers to draft the hometown hero Dan Marino (who went to Pitt), however Steeler brass ignored them and instead listened to their "experts" which opted them to go with Mark Malone as their QB.

While Marino was having a Hall of Fame career in Miami, the Steelers went through Mark Malone, Bubby Brister, Kordell Stewart, Neil O'Donnell, Tommy Maddox, just to name a few.

I guess this proves the fans are not ALWAYS wrong.
This here is a different situation. They had a choice between 2 QB's, so it was just a matter of which one. What we're doing involves choosing between entirely different positions to change, and QB just isn't the one we happen to need.
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haha, man the vy haters are in all out beast-mode, they are like sharks circling their prey
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This here is a different situation. They had a choice between 2 QB's, so it was just a matter of which one. What we're doing involves choosing between entirely different positions to change, and QB just isn't the one we happen to need.
So the Texans need a running back? I thought Dom Davis was having a better career than David Carr.
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So the Texans need a running back? I thought Dom Davis was having a better career than David Carr.
The Texans don't really need a quarterback either... Vince Young won't do any better than Carr has with the talent he has around him. Trade down, get some extra picks and draft Ferguson. At least that'll be a step to having a decent O-line.
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haha, man the vy haters are in all out beast-mode, they are like sharks circling their prey

its funny, I want bush, but im also a longhorn so I will back up VY against hateful aggies.

There are probably more Anti-VY posts than pro-VY posts
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Basically, the facts of the case are that in 1980 the Steelers picked Mark Malone as QB.

http://www.drafthistory.com/years/1980.html

A few years later came the hometown hero Dan Marino. Also note that 5 QBs were drafted before him.

http://www.drafthistory.com/years/1983.html

The situation is similiar in that the Steelers had a young QB that in thier mind had not been given an opportunity to prove that he was more than Just a Guy as a QB. The history from here should be better known.
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haha, man the vy haters are in all out beast-mode, they are like sharks circling their prey
Seems to me that all the man-lovers brought this on themselves. Reap what you sow.
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Basically, the facts of the case are that in 1980 the Steelers picked Mark Malone as QB.

http://www.drafthistory.com/years/1980.html

A few years later came the hometown hero Dan Marino. Also note that 5 QBs were drafted before him.

http://www.drafthistory.com/years/1983.html

The situation is similiar in that the Steelers had young QB that in thier mind had not been given an opportunity to prove that he was more than Just a Guy as a QB. The history from here should be better known.
Good find, actually the situation is closer than I thought. I guess the Steelers having had Malone for 3 years thought that he just needed the right talent around him and were willing to give him more time. So they opted to draft Gabriel Rivera a DT out of Texas Tech. Since I never heard of Rivera I am assuming he didn't do a whole lot for them.

I am just curious when most of the Steeler fan base was screaming for Marino, how many Steeler fans were saying "We don't need a QB, we have Mark Malone!"?
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Good find, actually the situation is closer than I thought. I guess the Steelers having had Malone for 3 years thought that he just needed the right talent around him and were willing to give him more time. So they opted to draft Gabriel Rivera a DT out of Texas Tech. Since I never heard of Rivera I am assuming he didn't do a whole lot for them.

I am just curious when most of the Steeler fan base was screaming for Marino, how many Steeler fans were saying "We don't need a QB, we have Mark Malone!"?
Actually, Rivera was a college all-American at Texas Tech whose pro career was cut short by health.

Edit: I want to say it was an auto accident or something off-the field. Basically, something I don't want to be flippant about.
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