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Old 01-27-2006   #1
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I know Longhorn football is big in Texas but this is nuts! People calling for Vince Young because he is a Longhorn? People questioning if you like the Kubiak hire because he was an Aggie? David Carr is the man in Houston and Kubiak has the background to be a great coach. It is just amazing to see people saying that they will no longer be a Houston Texans fan if we don't get Young. I think those fans are already gone and were never really behind the Texans 100% to begin with. Keep in mind that this is the NFL and college is different from it. Keep the two seperated. The Texans need to do what's best for them and it makes no difference what college background that help comes from.
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People calling for Vince Young because he is a Longhorn?
This is what irritates me most. While I am sure there is a fraction of fans out there like that, there are also those that think is he the best player regardless where he went to school. Don't lump all of us into that group.
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This is what irritates me most. While I am sure there is a fraction of fans out there like that, there are also those that think is he the best player regardless where he went to school. Don't lump all of us into that group.


That is funny because all of the EXPERTS think he isn't the best player. Go home HOMER!!!
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This is what irritates me most. While I am sure there is a fraction of fans out there like that, there are also those that think is he the best player regardless where he went to school. Don't lump all of us into that group.
Did I say you are in that group?
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It is just amazing to see people saying that they will no longer be a Houston Texans fan if we don't get Young. I think those fans are already gone and were never really behind the Texans 100% to begin with.
It's not ONLY about not getting Young. I could forgive them if they were to pass on Young to trade the pick. That would show me that they're working to improve a team that needs work at many positions. What I won't forgive is passing on Vince Young to draft a guy at a position where we're already three deep, and who would not contribute to a quick turaround (playing on a team with no defense and an abysmal line) any more than VY. That would be yet another seemingly deliberate slap in the face to Longhorn players and fans, and I'm not going to take that.

Last years unforgiveable draft fiasco put this organization on "probation" with myself and many other UT fans/alumni. Another insult this season, given the number of UT players in the draft at need positions for Houston, and I'm out. Why should we pull for a franchise that continually spits in our faces?
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That is funny because all of the EXPERTS think he isn't the best player. Go home HOMER!!!
Which expert? Casserly? BTW, I am home, I live here in Texas. Why don't you go home www.denverbroncos.com.. Geez, and this guy registered in Jan 06.
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Which expert? Casserly?

try all the other NFL teams. all the media except for the Houston media. Better yet name me an expert that thinks Vince is the best.
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Sorta like all the experts who gave Bush the Heisman in a landslide and those who thought he was better than Young going into the Rose Bowl. That had a hilarious outcome.
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It's not ONLY about not getting Young. I could forgive them if they were to pass on Young to trade the pick. That would show me that they're working to improve a team that needs work at many positions. What I won't forgive is passing on Vince Young to draft a guy at a position where we're already three deep, and who would not contribute to a quick turaround (playing on a team with no defense and an abysmal line) any more than VY. That would be yet another seemingly deliberate slap in the face to Longhorn players and fans, and I'm not going to take that.

Last years unforgiveable draft fiasco put this organization on "probation" with myself and many other UT fans/alumni. Another insult this season, given the number of UT players in the draft at need positions for Houston, and I'm out. Why should we pull for a franchise that continually spits in our faces?

I beg to differ. We are not three deep at a certain position. VM is an okay RB, Wells might not be back, and DD is consistantly hurt. Never fails, you can count on him being out 4-5 games a yr. We need an explosive player at the position and on this team. Nothing against VY, he is a great athlete, it's just not a player we need. We have a QB with a great arm just need better coaching and a better line. Everyone is saying he will not lead us to a championship...LOL...look at Indy, Manning can't lead them to a championship. Texans don't need to draft VY. We can upgrade the O-Line through FA, maybe a trade or two. Pick up a couple of defensive players through the draft for depth and maybe go after some quality defensive players. It can be done. Nothing against UT either, we just don't need another QB when we already have one, or maybe we all want to wait another 4 yrs before we can start talking playoffs if we do take VY. Just because he was at UT and because he is a hometown boy. I don't think so!
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Sorta like all the experts who gave Bush the Heisman in a landslide and those who thought he was better than Young going into the Rose Bowl. That had a hilarious outcome.


Whose to say he still isn't? I remember this being a team sport and you win or lose as a team not because you are the best player in college.
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Just wait and see what the team is going to do... No more Bush/Vince post's... Just sit back and relax, and ignore the hype.
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Just wait and see what the team is going to do... No more Bush/Vince post's... Just sit back and relax, and ignore the hype.

Sorry Lincoln but I don't think this Civil war is ending any time soon
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Which expert? Casserly? BTW, I am home, I live here in Texas. Why don't you go home www.denverbroncos.com.. Geez, and this guy registered in Jan 06.
Right now it is accurate to say most projections have Leinart going before Young and some folks are even talking about Cutler jumping above Young as well. Personally, I would take Young over Leinart in a heartbeat. I haven't seen enough of Cutler to have a judgment.
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Right now it is accurate to say most projections have Leinart going before Young and some folks are even talking about Cutler jumping above Young as well. Personally, I would take Young over Leinart in a heartbeat. I haven't seen enough of Cutler to have a judgment.
I was thinking too about Leinart about halfway through the season. Once it starting becoming obvious to me that Carr wasn't going to pan out I started watching Leinart more closely. I even posted about it here and some of you felt Leinart was overhyped and had a bad wheel. The thought of VY never crossed my mind because I was convinced he would stay in school.
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[quote=Caesa. That would be yet another seemingly deliberate slap in the face to Longhorn players and fans, and I'm not going to take that.

Last years unforgiveable draft fiasco put this organization on "probation" with myself and many other UT fans/alumni. Another insult this season, given the number of UT players in the draft at need positions for Houston, and I'm out. Why should we pull for a franchise that continually spits in our faces?[/QUOTE]
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That would be yet another seemingly deliberate slap in the face to Longhorn players and fans, and I'm not going to take that.

Last years unforgiveable draft fiasco put this organization on "probation" with myself and many other UT fans/alumni. Another insult this season, given the number of UT players in the draft at need positions for Houston, and I'm out. Why should we pull for a franchise that continually spits in our faces?
The idea that this organization owes UT alumni ANYTHING is preposterous. I've read some pretty stupid comments on this board this past month, but nothing has actually pissed me off like yours just did.

As if being a UT fan entitles you to some sort of holier than thou status that anybody would actually care if you put this organization on "probation" because they don't draft Longhorns.

Spits in your face!? The fact that you actually think the Texans have some sort of conspiracy going to not draft players from UT proves to me how distorted your reality is and really makes me question your sanity. If the Texans drafted players solely based on what a few people with burnt orange colored glasses want, then THAT would be spitting in our face.

I went nuts when Texas beat USC, but now I wish they had lost.

And before your post, I was happy with whoever the Texans drafted, but now I hope to God we draft Bush so you can put them on "permanent probation" and leave us all alone.
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I'm in the "draft Vince" camp but I'm gonna be realistic. The new coach has given every indication that is not going to be an avenue he goes down. Fine.
It's not something I control anyway.

I think the majority of fans that are in the Vince camp though feel he WILL go to the Titans and he WILL be an impact player for them eventually.

Now that would hurt.
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This is what irritates me most. While I am sure there is a fraction of fans out there like that, there are also those that think is he the best player regardless where he went to school. Don't lump all of us into that group.
Great point - I support drafting Vince because he is a great player (the best this year IMHO) and Houston is his home town. I not sure why so many have trouble understanding that not everyone who wants VY bleeds orange.
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Remember guys...teams don't listen to the fans for football advice.

All they want is your money for seats and to know if you prefer if they sell Coke or Pepsi.
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