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Old 01-27-2006   #1
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I'm a fan. I know we have Mathis (promising but unpolished)... but I think Moss could be a great #2. I really don't buy the big bias against smaller receivers, having witnessed the success of Deion Branch, Steve Smith, and Santana Moss. If you don't take Bush, grabbing him at #36 would help with the team's explosiveness. If they have ridiculous skills, I like the undersized WRs. I think Moss/AJ would make for a duo to rival Wayne/Harrison and Housh/CJ. If you trade down to improve the line/defense, you'd be taking a potential gamebreaker with maybe your 4th pick in the draft.

I also like Hass out of Oregon St. in the 3rd or 4th if we take Bush. He might not possess elite athleticism, but he's a winner and he got the job done with a huge target on his back this year. With a good receiver in the backfield (be it DD or RB) and AJ, I think Hass could succeed.
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I'm a fan. I know we have Mathis (promising but unpolished)... but I think Moss could be a great #2. I really don't buy the big bias against smaller receivers, having witnessed the success of Deion Branch, Steve Smith, and Santana Moss.....

you left out a few.

Terry Glenn, Marvin Harrison, Tory Holt....

Smaller "scat" receivers work very well in some offenses.
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I'm a fan. I know we have Mathis (promising but unpolished)... but I think Moss could be a great #2. I really don't buy the big bias against smaller receivers, having witnessed the success of Deion Branch, Steve Smith, and Santana Moss. If you don't take Bush, grabbing him at #36 would help with the team's explosiveness. If they have ridiculous skills, I like the undersized WRs. I think Moss/AJ would make for a duo to rival Wayne/Harrison and Housh/CJ. If you trade down to improve the line/defense, you'd be taking a potential gamebreaker with maybe your 4th pick in the draft.

I also like Hass out of Oregon St. in the 3rd or 4th if we take Bush. He might not possess elite athleticism, but he's a winner and he got the job done with a huge target on his back this year. With a good receiver in the backfield (be it DD or RB) and AJ, I think Hass could succeed.
In order to get him at 36, we'd have to trade down with the Jets, and I just don't see it happening...

As for Moss, I, too, am a fan of his, but I'm not sure he has the size to be an impact receiver...He is smaller than all of the receivers you listed...I don't know about using a second rounder on him, but if he's there in the third, I take him in a heartbeat...Even though he's small, he can get separation due to his good route running ability and he has explosive speed...
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I am a fan as well, but I would only consider him in a trade down scenario. If we go Bush I think a WR in the draft is moot point on day 1.
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WR is the least of our worries. And in the 2nd round, are you insane? We need alot of big boys. Guards, tackles, ends, TE's.
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Folks, let's cut down on the assertions of insanity, drug use, etc. They don't add anything to the discussion.
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he is smaller, slower, and does not seperate as well as his brother. His brother did not have a great year until this year.

Siorence is worth nothing more than a 4th rounder to me. I still wouldnt take him there, I would go Steve Smith USC or Skyler Green LSU.
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Santana Moss had a great 2003 as well (1100 yds, 10 tds, 15 ypc starting 12 games). He's averaged 1150 yards 8 TDs and 17 ypc for the last three years.

About his brother, from what has been said at the Senior Bowl practices, I don't know if he's slower than anybody in the draft... they say he is playing at a "different speed" and is eating up every corner 1 on 1 and in 7 on 7. ESPN has him at 4.30.

Not saying he's a must have for the Texans, but in a trade down situation, if he's hanging around at 35-40 he's tempting. The knock is his size, 5'8", but he's strong and can go over the middle, according to Scouts Inc. he doesn't play like a 5'8" guy because he can get to a lot of balls with his hands. Sure, he's a gamble. But I'll take a guy with all the skills and huge upside if the only knock is he's too short. I'd be worried if he was prototype size and couldn't catch or run routes.
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A Moss and AJ combo would make us have two Hurricane Wide Recievers. It would also give us 1 big reciever (Johnson) and 1 small reciever (Moss). The Carolina Panthers used the same forumula 3 years ago (Muhammed and Smith). However if we take Bush #1, we have to address the O-line in the later rounds.
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Having a reviever named Moss can backfire though.
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Pick Chad Greenway if he is left in the 2nd round. Marcus Greenwood and Chad Greenway won't b a bad LB duo. I would try Moss in the 3rd and if he is not there go 4 richard marshell
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Folks, let's cut down on the assertions of insanity, drug use, etc. They don't add anything to the discussion.

cut down?? are you on CRACK??

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Folks, let's cut down on the assertions of insanity, drug use, etc. They don't add anything to the discussion.

Noooooooo I love drug related posts.


Oh and I really do like Moss as well. I just dont think that he is the right pick for our situation. If he somehow fell to the third, id snatch him up though.
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cut down?? are you on CRACK??

im just going to guess and say you're going to get banned for a day or so for that.

I would at least.
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