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Old 01-25-2006   #1
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Lets start with We know the guy isn't the best judge of things but he was on Dan Patrick. First he was asked to name the Top 5 WRs. He said Himself, TO, Steve Smith and then after thinking said something to the effect of, "you know who I really like..Andre Johnson, that guy is a stud if they can get the people around him..him and Chad Johnson are 4 and 5." Patrick then asked what else the Texans needed. He said with AJ he would take VY and then you'd have two guys who could work with each other and tear up the league. I'm all for Bush so I am not trying to make this a VY thread. I was more impressed with the AJ comments. He even said the Raiders are in for some long years if they don't get a discipline coach. Now that I read my title and can't fix it I'm sure some of you are thinking the thread was about getting him..lol.

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Not sure if it was mentioned anywhere here yet but, there was an interview with Warren Moon on one of the ESPN sports radio shows in which he addressed Vince Young as well.

I found it interesting that Warren Moon didn't find issue with Vince Young's throwing motion so much as his foot work and him having to work from under center more.

He stated the obvious fact that Vince wouldn't have the same rushing success in the NFL, which everyone, including Vince probably knows but also mentioned that his mobility would buy him time in the pocket to make plays down the field.

The interview is located here if you have premium ESPN Web Access.

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lol..yah ..i rolled my eyes when I saw the title of this thread .


Pretty interesting comments. I also find it interesting that a couple of WRs in the league have said we should get Vince Young now. Makes me wonder if that is just the way WRs think (passing most important part of the game) or if VY has alot of friends in the league through Steve McNair.. or if NFL players really feel he is the best player..

eh.. I just deleted about 3 paragraphs talking about the "taboo" around black QBs and how it could possibly be related to that.. but I dont want it to be misinterpreted as racist, so im not gonna go into it. I find it odd though that no one is saying we should draft Matt Lienart when he is rated above VY on pretty much every draft board.
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Not an ESPN Insider, can you cut and paste, please.
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could be that WRs realize that a QB who can buy some time with his legs and be a threat to run opens up their game.

http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/p...yer?id=2305722

That link is another ESPN Insider Pod Cast where Jeff Fisher is interviewed.

He is coaching at the Senior Bowl and mentioned Jay Cutler. He did say, though he is a USC fan, he has no doubt in his mind that Vince Young will be a star in the NFL. That said, I got the feeling that they might be looking at trading out of the #3 spot, perhaps down. could it be that the Titains might be leaning towards moving down and taking Jay Cutler?

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Not an ESPN Insider, can you cut and paste, please.

it was an audio interview. :\
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Remember, this is coming from a guy that saw Andre light it up on his career day: 12 catches for 170 yards and two touchdowns in the 2004 season as the Texans fell to the Vikings in overtime.
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could be that WRs realize that a QB who can buy some time with his legs and be a threat to run opens up their game.

http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/p...yer?id=2305722

That link is another ESPN Insider Pod Cast where Jeff Fisher is interviewed.

He is coaching at the Senior Bowl and mentioned Jay Cutler. He did say, though he is a USC fan, he has no doubt in his mind that Vince Young will be a star in the NFL. That said, I got the feeling that they might be looking at trading out of the #3 spot, perhaps down. could it be that the Titains might be leaning towards moving down and taking Jay Cutler?

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Moss did mention that is was no offense to Bush but that he thinks VY could buy time which would allow "Andre to work his magic" or something to that effect.
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could be that WRs realize that a QB who can buy some time with his legs and be a threat to run opens up their game.

http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/p...yer?id=2305722

That link is another ESPN Insider Pod Cast where Jeff Fisher is interviewed.

He is coaching at the Senior Bowl and mentioned Jay Cutler. He did say, though he is a USC fan, he has no doubt in his mind that Vince Young will be a star in the NFL. That said, I got the feeling that they might be looking at trading out of the #3 spot, perhaps down. could it be that the Titains might be leaning towards moving down and taking Jay Cutler?

WOOT! More Draft intrigue!
Didnt Jeff also say that there is no doubt that USC has the better players in this draft than Texas though?

And about having a qb that can buy time with his legs... Carr is one.
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Didnt Jeff also say that there is no doubt that USC has the better players in this draft than Texas though?

And about having a qb that can buy time with his legs... Carr is one.
Carr isn't immobile. Maybe guys like Moss just have that perception that VY could cause more problems while Andre worked.
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could be that WRs realize that a QB who can buy some time with his legs and be a threat to run opens up their game.

http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/p...yer?id=2305722

That link is another ESPN Insider Pod Cast where Jeff Fisher is interviewed.

He is coaching at the Senior Bowl and mentioned Jay Cutler. He did say, though he is a USC fan, he has no doubt in his mind that Vince Young will be a star in the NFL. That said, I got the feeling that they might be looking at trading out of the #3 spot, perhaps down. could it be that the Titains might be leaning towards moving down and taking Jay Cutler?

WOOT! More Draft intrigue!
Michael Irvin has repetadly said that receviers dont like scambling QB's because they get the ball less, not more.
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Didnt Jeff also say that there is no doubt that USC has the better players in this draft than Texas though?

And about having a qb that can buy time with his legs... Carr is one.
I vehemently disagree that Carr can buy time with his legs. He can move, but buying time brings images of making a great pass after a scramble or side stepping pressure. I just have not seen this as his strong suit.

And I am not comparing him to VY.
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I found it interesting that Warren Moon didn't find issue with Vince Young's throwing motion so much as his foot work and him having to work from under center more.
Yeah, I doubt Kubiak will be running plays out of the shotgun.
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I was wrong, he wants us to take Vince Carter.. He can just jump over the guys sacking him.

Wednesday's show in review
• Randy Moss, Raiders WR- An open, candid talk about Moss' relationship with Daunte Culpepper, why Norv Turner failed as a coach (he wasn't enough of a disciplinarian), his top five WRs and why the Texans should take Vince Carter. Callers felt Moss sounded mature and like a leader.
• On Again- Ron Artest will be traded to the Kings for Peja Stojakovich after all. Keith thinks players should have to go through a mental test, like a physical, and if they fail, the deal is off. Rams RB Marshall Faulk called in to say Artest did have a right to refuse.
• Rick Reilly, SI- On Artest, the Super Bowl and why Terrell Owens will not play for Denver.

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Patrick then asked what else the Texans needed. He said with AJ he would take VY and then you'd have two guys who could work with each other and tear up the league.

Why does everyone seem to ASSUME AJ would rather work with Vince Young that David Carr?? Just wondering! Maybe, JUST MAYBE, AJ thinks he can tear up the league with David Carr as his leader.
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This is funny, Moss trying to tell everyone who or what makes a good QB.
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Why does everyone seem to ASSUME AJ would rather work with Vince Young that David Carr?? Just wondering! Maybe, JUST MAYBE, AJ thinks he can tear up the league with David Carr as his leader.
Who knows but maybe the people who have lined up against them think that AJ would thrive with someone else working with him. All in all I think they just wanted to get Randy's opinion on anything..he just walked into the Texans question with the AJ talk. Funny thing about the interview is Moss is well spoken and sounded mature. I just don't get the guy.
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I find it odd though that no one is saying we should draft Matt Lienart when he is rated above VY on pretty much every draft board.
Interesting since VY had a better QB rating last year. Maybe it is that black/white thing you referred to.
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And about having a qb that can buy time with his legs... Carr is one.
Yeah, time between snaps after he's been sacked . . . again. Pul-leeze.
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This is funny, Moss trying to tell everyone who or what makes a good QB.
I was just thinking that, as well (and I heard the interview live!). Whoever asks themselves, "I wonder what Rany Moss thinks we should do?" Not a thought that crosses my mind.
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