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Old 01-21-2006   #1
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Exclamation Bates, Pariani Offered Coordinator Contracts?

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Texans | Offer pending to Bates?
Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:57:02 -0800

PackersNews.com reports the Houston Texans are believed to have made former Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator Jim Bates a lucrative offer to take over their defense. Houston is going to hire Denver offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak as their new head coach, according to numerous reports, but the Texans have to wait until the Broncos' season is finished before they can make the move. They can hire members of the coaching staff, presumably with Kubiak's approval, and the demand for Bates means they probably can't wait until Denver's season ends to have a shot at him.
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Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:13:58 -0800

Tim Gorman, of the Daily Orange, reports Syracuse University offensive coordinator Brian Pariani could be headed to the Houston Texans. Denver Broncos offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak, a friend of Pariani's, will reportedly accept the head coaching position in Houston after the Broncos' season ends and he may want to bring Pariani to Houston.
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I'm incredibly stoked on Bates. He is one of the best. I have my fingers crossed.

Less than stoked on Brian Pariani. Syracuse was awful last year offensively and they operated just like Capers and his staff did by forcing a system on players instead of building a system around their talents.

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Bates looks like a good hiring.. im not too worried about who we hire as OC. Kubiak ran the offense in Denver and I imagine he will do the same here. Whoever he hires as OC will most likely (im assuming) be more of an assistant than a guy that really controls the whole offense.
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Bates....that would be a late/early Christmas gift for sure. He is extremely well liked by players, while running an effective defense.

The other guy....I think we can do better. Unless he is a Kubiak protege, it definitely would not follow suit of hiring quality coordinators such as Bates, Brown, Marciano, etc.
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http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/bates_jim/

Bates really would be the perfect selection. I hope he takes the job. Look at that resume. Not only has he had top 10 defenses every season as a DC.. he is a member of "The Belichick Club".. one of those sought after coaches that has served under Belichick at some point in his career hehehe.

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Less than stoked on Brian Pariani. Syracuse was awful last year offensively and they operated just like Capers and his staff did by forcing a system on players instead of building a system around their talents.

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The West Coast offense often has a transition period before the players get a true sense of the offense. Here is a slightly less biased bio on Brian Pariani:

Brian Pariani Bio

He is well-respected and has 3 Super Bowl rings just like Kubiak. Here is a quote from Shannon Sharpe from the bio:

It was great for me to work with him. When he got there I was already a three-time Pro Bowler and an all-pro tight end, but I learned a lot from him, such as how to watch film and what to look for. Even after I went to Baltimore we still had conversations a few times a month, so that shows you what type of friendship we have that still goes way beyond football.”
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I like the sound of Bates. They ranked 7th in total yards per game (293.1), 14th in completion %, all better than us. He wasn't too good against the run, but all of GB final defensive stats were a heck of a lot better than ours. Like that was hard to do. It almost seems certain then that we'll switch to the 4-3 if we get Jim Bates. I dont' know too much about the guy from Syracuse though.
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Bates would be an excellent hire. I would also be happy with Jerry Gray, but maybe even more so about Bates.

As to Pariani, I am not familiar with him. Maybe he isn't coming as OC? Could be an assistant. Or if he does come as OC, I think Kubiak will most certainly be the one who sets the tone for the offense. Look at Capers/Palmer. Palmer may have been calling the plays, but it was Capers philosphy that was implemented. I also feel better knowing that Shannon Sharpe thinks highly of him. Let's give the guy a shot before we start the "Fire Pariani" posts.
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I've had my eye on Bates since Miami and he was one of the top three on my list for the DC job along with Gray and Marinelli.

Bates is in high demand and I've had my fingers crossed ever since some of the head coaching slots have begun to fill. I'm worried about Detroit since that would be home for him. But - like in Jerry McGuire (hate it) - show him the money!

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I've had my eye on Bates since Miami and he was one of the top three on my list for the DC job along with Gray and Marinelli.

Bates is in high demand and I've had my fingers crossed ever since some of the head coaching slots have begun to fill.
could it be that the Texans are able to turn this train wreck around over night? and if so is this a direct reflection on Capers and his coaching staff last season?
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Bates is a great hire if true. He took GBs defense that was very bad and talent limited (sound familiar) and turned it inot a pretty solid group in short time. Bodes well I would think.
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could it be that the Texans are able to turn this train wreck around over night? and if so is this a direct reflection on Capers and his coaching staff last season?
Possibly and very MUCH yes. I would be hard pressed to find a more disfunctional and incompetent group of coaches ever in the NFL.
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could it be that the Texans are able to turn this train wreck around over night? and if so is this a direct reflection on Capers and his coaching staff last season?
Bates turned around a packers defense that had been pretty bad for a few years in one year. Did not look like they had massive player turnover either. Miami had been a good defense during his time there also.
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I don't know anything about Bates, but the opinions in this thread from those who know something about him are unanimous on the idea of hiring him, so that sounds real good to me !
My only comment would be is that there is apparently an going and continuous conversation between the Texans and Kubiak and in this
situation with the Packers DC prospect there is almost surely a 3 way conversation. And I appreciate the Texans agressiveness in what is a very competitive market for coaches, but hope we don't get into hot water with the league in our dealings with Kubiak while his current team is in playoff mode.
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Im not sure on how it all works.. but wouldnt denver have to file a complaint or something?
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Bates sounds damn good...hopefully that happens. OC though...well, since Kubiak will be calling the plays, they could get me to be the OC, doesn't matter. (We'd win Super Bowls if I was OC )
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As I understand it, someone from the Texans organization would have to make a public comment about Kubiak being the coach before Denver could file a complaint for tampering. Seems like they're wishing the best for him, though.
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Finally something new to discuss.
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I doubt Denver would file a complain.. Shanahan wants Kubiak to succeed.
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could it be that the Texans are able to turn this train wreck around over night? and if so is this a direct reflection on Capers and his coaching staff last season?
And if it's NOT "turned around over night" what is that a reflection of? Just curious.
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