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**Hookem Horns** · 01-17-2006

I wonder if this writer went to UT also.

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**jerek** · 01-17-2006

I wonder if it matters?

Bubbajwp · 01-17-2006

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Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

I wonder if this writer went to UT also.

LINK

This changes everything now we have to draft VY

**Texans_Chick** · 01-17-2006

Lots of hype time between now and end of April

Bad Leinart picture--they used a pick with a knee brace in it.

What is the status of Ferguson's health? Anyone know?

HardKnockTexan · 01-17-2006

Seems like another nation sports writer is huge on Young. Taking him would be sweet but if we do decide to trade down, grabbing AJ Hawk with our first pick and then the tackle out of Auburn with our second pick sounds like the way to go to me!

D-ReK · 01-17-2006

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Originally Posted by HardKnockTexan

Seems like another nation sports writer is huge on Young. Taking him would be sweet but if we do decide to trade down, grabbing AJ Hawk with our first pick and then the tackle out of Auburn with our second pick sounds like the way to go to me!

McNeill would be absolutely terrible in Kubiak's scheme...The guy simply can't move...He's big and is a good run-blocker, so he'll make a good RT for someone, just not us...

Staying on topic, if Stewart Mandel says it, it must be true...That guy is one of the biggest draft gurus on the planet...

HardKnockTexan · 01-17-2006

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Originally Posted by Texans_Chick

Lots of hype time between now and end of April

Bad Leinart picture--they used a pick with a knee brace in it.

What is the status of Ferguson's health? Anyone know?

Not sure on his heath status but I didnt realize that he was so undersized. At 6'5'', 289 lbs he is going to look like a tooth pick next to some of those befensive linemen he could be facing.

I was also taking a look at Mario Williams, who some people have said could be the next Peppers. He seems more of a run stopping DE at 6'5'' 290 lbs than a finness pass rusher.

The more I see these different prospects the more I'm liking AJ Hawk.

Bubbajwp · 01-17-2006

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Originally Posted by D-ReK

McNeill would be absolutely terrible in Kubiak's scheme...The guy simply can't move...He's big and is a good run-blocker, so he'll make a good RT for someone, just not us...

Staying on topic, if Stewart Mandel says it, it must be true...That guy is one of the biggest draft gurus on the planet...

I dont know how accurate this is
40-time: 4.97

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...usmcneill.html

Blake · 01-17-2006

1. Young
2. Leinart
3. Bush
4. Hawk
5. White
6. Mario Williams
7. Huff
8. Ferguson
9. D. Williams
10. Ngata
11. Hali
12. Greenway
13. Holmes
14. Ryan - See, im not the only one high on this guy.
15. Kiwi
16. Davis
17. Dumervil - Meh...
18. McNeil
19. Calhoun - Another guy I am really high on.
20. Bunkly - I dont really like Bunk.

D-ReK · 01-17-2006

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Originally Posted by Bubbajwp

I dont know how accurate this is
40-time: 4.97

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...usmcneill.html

I don't really trust those 40 times though...Reggie McNeal ran in the 4.2s at A&M's pro day last year and he is listed at 4.35...AJ Hawk ran a 4.45 at OSu's pro day and is listed at 4.52...Vernon Davis ran a 4.41 at Maryland and is listed at 4.49...

Regardless of this, I'm not too concerned with the 40 times of O-Linemen...I'm more concerned with agility, quickness, and explosion off the snap...From what I've seen McNeill does not possess these attributes...

JDizzle · 01-17-2006

Lendale White over Deangelo Williams? Come on. Williams was a workhorse back for the past 2 years at Memphis and put up close to 2,000 yards in both of them, while White actually had less carries than Bush did this year.

What's the point of this thread, anyways? I could dig around and find a slew of other 'big boards' that have Leinart and Bush over Young, but what's the point of doing that other than engaging in some childish fanboy debate over who's better?

Blake · 01-17-2006

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Originally Posted by JackDizzle

What's the point of this thread, anyways? I could dig around and find a slew of other 'big boards' that have Leinart and Bush over Young, but what's the point of doing that other than engaging in some childish fanboy debate over who's better?

Its an SI article. Not just a random draft website, that updates every few weeks.

Texans Horror · 01-17-2006

Stewart Mandel was one of the first writers outside of Austin who got big on the Horns early, when everybody else was screaming USC. So when the Horns won, he has been (appropriately) leverage to throw accolades on the team/QB he favored. This isn't a bandwagon he has jumped on. And I only saw Young and Huff on there. If he was a real Horn lover this year, he could have put a lot more names on that list.

I think that many of UT's seniors will be drafted in the first or second round. This is a natural reaction to being the winning team in the National Championship. Whether it is inflated or not is another thread, but look back a couple of years to when OSU won the championship. A lot of Buckeyes went Pro that year.

Long-Spurs-Texan · 01-17-2006

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Originally Posted by JackDizzle

What's the point of this thread, anyways? I could dig around and find a slew of other 'big boards' that have Leinart and Bush over Young, but what's the point of doing that other than engaging in some childish fanboy debate over who's better?

Links?

eclem5 · 01-17-2006

Gen. Custer was a leader too. Is he a leader really?

eclem5 · 01-17-2006

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Originally Posted by HardKnockTexan

Seems like another nation sports writer is huge on Young. Taking him would be sweet but if we do decide to trade down, grabbing AJ Hawk with our first pick and then the tackle out of Auburn with our second pick sounds like the way to go to me!

I bet you wanted the Seahawks to draft Brian Bosworth, enough with the man crushes already

JDizzle · 01-17-2006

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Originally Posted by Long-Spurs-Texan

Links?

You completely missed the point of that remark.

BREAZE · 01-17-2006

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Originally Posted by eclem5

Gen. Custer was a leader too. Is he a leader really?

No, its all made up. A whole bunch of witnesses got on the phone and all agreed to pull the sheets over everyone's eyes...

Htown34s · 01-17-2006

I agree with Mandel's take on him:

"To anyone still trying to find fault with Young's unconventional style: Give it up, already. Young is a better passer than Michael Vick and, while Vick might be a tad faster, Young is a "smart" fast -- he's dangerous but not reckless. He's also the most endearing leader I've ever covered -- you could tell the entire Texas team marched to Young's beat. The only thing that would preclude Young's NFL stardom is a reactionary coach who tries to mold him into something he isn't."

If you draft VY, let Vince be Vince. Maybe a John Elway on steroids type.

jmerog · 01-17-2006

I heard that VY once threw the ball toward the endzone, blow his own hole in the line, sprinted down field ahead of the ball,hurdling tacklers along the way and leaped into the air catching the ball just as time expired. Is it true? Is it true he once ate lightning and crapped thunder? What a fine human and supurb American.

01-17-2006	#1
Hookem Horns Lets Go Rangers Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 31176	Sports Illustrated top 20 in the draft I wonder if this writer went to UT also. LINK

01-17-2006	#2
jerek Pro Hobbyist Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dublin, OH Age: 32 Posts: 6,590 Rep Power: 7621	I wonder if it matters? __________________ It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. - Voltaire

01-17-2006	#4
Texans_Chick Utopian Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,979 Rep Power: 24189	Interesting Lots of hype time between now and end of April Bad Leinart picture--they used a pick with a knee brace in it. What is the status of Ferguson's health? Anyone know?

01-17-2006	#5
HardKnockTexan All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 33 Posts: 576 Rep Power: 27	Seems like another nation sports writer is huge on Young. Taking him would be sweet but if we do decide to trade down, grabbing AJ Hawk with our first pick and then the tackle out of Auburn with our second pick sounds like the way to go to me! __________________ Let the football gods smile down on us.

01-17-2006	#9
Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,595 Rep Power: 14926	1. Young 2. Leinart 3. Bush 4. Hawk 5. White 6. Mario Williams 7. Huff 8. Ferguson 9. D. Williams 10. Ngata 11. Hali 12. Greenway 13. Holmes 14. Ryan - See, im not the only one high on this guy. 15. Kiwi 16. Davis 17. Dumervil - Meh... 18. McNeil 19. Calhoun - Another guy I am really high on. 20. Bunkly - I dont really like Bunk. __________________

01-17-2006	#11
JDizzle Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,842 Rep Power: 1891	Lendale White over Deangelo Williams? Come on. Williams was a workhorse back for the past 2 years at Memphis and put up close to 2,000 yards in both of them, while White actually had less carries than Bush did this year. What's the point of this thread, anyways? I could dig around and find a slew of other 'big boards' that have Leinart and Bush over Young, but what's the point of doing that other than engaging in some childish fanboy debate over who's better?

01-17-2006	#13
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	Stewart Mandel was one of the first writers outside of Austin who got big on the Horns early, when everybody else was screaming USC. So when the Horns won, he has been (appropriately) leverage to throw accolades on the team/QB he favored. This isn't a bandwagon he has jumped on. And I only saw Young and Huff on there. If he was a real Horn lover this year, he could have put a lot more names on that list. I think that many of UT's seniors will be drafted in the first or second round. This is a natural reaction to being the winning team in the National Championship. Whether it is inflated or not is another thread, but look back a couple of years to when OSU won the championship. A lot of Buckeyes went Pro that year.

01-17-2006	#15
eclem5 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Gen. Custer was a leader too. Is he a leader really?

01-17-2006	#19
Htown34s Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Age: 43 Posts: 384 Rep Power: 10	I agree with Mandel's take on him: "To anyone still trying to find fault with Young's unconventional style: Give it up, already. Young is a better passer than Michael Vick and, while Vick might be a tad faster, Young is a "smart" fast -- he's dangerous but not reckless. He's also the most endearing leader I've ever covered -- you could tell the entire Texas team marched to Young's beat. The only thing that would preclude Young's NFL stardom is a reactionary coach who tries to mold him into something he isn't." If you draft VY, let Vince be Vince. Maybe a John Elway on steroids type. __________________ "I'm going to win them over regardless" -Mario Williams

01-17-2006	#20
jmerog Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 264 Rep Power: 8	I heard that VY once threw the ball toward the endzone, blow his own hole in the line, sprinted down field ahead of the ball,hurdling tacklers along the way and leaped into the air catching the ball just as time expired. Is it true? Is it true he once ate lightning and crapped thunder? What a fine human and supurb American. __________________ Texans honor the cow- we eat steak, wear leather, and pile our Tex-mex with cheese.

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