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Old 01-16-2006   #1
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Ok we can all agree that they all suck but who would you say sucks the most? Ill go with seth wand and todd washington.
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Old 01-16-2006   #2
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Todd Wade by FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

McKinney is a subpar center, but adequate guard.

Wand is debatable because while he did not look great last year, he was not as bad as Pendry made him out to be. I will give him a pass until he is evaluated by Kubiak and staff.
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With all the VY and Bush debate my head already hurts enough. Then you come in and ask a question that just sends me out into left field because I truly cannot tell you which one outside of Pitts blows chunks.
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Dollar to performance wise it's McKinny and Wade easy, but they aren't the worst.
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Todd Wade by FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

McKinney is a subpar center, but adequate guard.

Wand is debatable because while he did not look great last year, he was not as bad as Pendry made him out to be. I will give him a pass until he is evaluated by Kubiak and staff.
I'll second that motion. Wade is paid way too much for what we get.

Wand got screwed by Pendry this season. I'll reserve judgement until we find what Kubiak thinks. Interesting note: he is a restricted free agent. If they sign him for 2006, you know Reeves liked him.
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At start of the season last year, Victor Riley was horrible...I mean just flat out bad. I remember watching him in training camp constantly getting bull rushed and then him gasping for air because he was so out of shape. That was one of the most pathetic decisions in this franchises history.

As far as our current roster is concerned, Todd Wade has become very dissapointing, and has not lived out to his contract whatsoever.
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I thought the Young/Bush threads were pretty bad in their monotony, but now we'll start the Who Sucks the Worst genre. First O-lineman, then linebackers, then defensive backs, then receivers, etc. It'll be great!

It is a sad day when we can't leave it at constructive criticsm (even if it is misguided) but it is now the whole unit sucks, who's the worst.

However, I know my mean little. I realize posts like this will end up with 30-50 replies, while football talk like this will die under 10:

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Theres nothing wrong finding out which lineman each other thinks sucks and want gone off the team if you think its a stupid thread skip over it. my
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Wade and McKinney. No doubt about. McKinney plays a little better at guard but I would still rather pick up Bentley and say goodbye to McKinney. Wade is probably going to stay because of his overinflated salary.
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Wade and McKinney (at C). McKinney was decent at guard though. Weigert isn't too great either. Heck, everyone except Pitts and maybe Hodgdon.
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The guy who plays behind the center. He's close enough to the line to count.
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Wand got screwed by Pendry this season. I'll reserve judgement until we find what Kubiak thinks.
Kubiak likes smaller, faster linemen. Wand is enormous and SLOW with very poor footwork. My guess is that Kubiak won't like Wand.
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Wade....no Mckinney.....no Wade.....uhh, except for Pitts, it's a pick'em.
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Kubiak likes smaller, faster linemen. Wand is enormous and SLOW with very poor footwork. My guess is that Kubiak won't like Wand.
If Wand is so slow and has such poor footwork, why did those boneheads pick him to be our LT?

I still think he could do well somewhere, but I don't ever want to see him at LT again....EVER.
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If Wand is so slow and has such poor footwork, why did those boneheads pick him to be our LT?

I still think he could do well somewhere, but I don't ever want to see him at LT again....EVER.
Because he drinks the same milk as Carr does and they thought that since that was happening then he'll at least amount to what Carr is. A wasted pick
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Because he drinks the same milk as Carr does and they thought that since that was happening then he'll at least amount to what Carr is. A wasted pick
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[bold]5.25 in the 40-yard dash[/bold] 385-pound bench press 380-pound power clean 30-inch vertical jump ....

So you think that he has gotten slower in the NFL?
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[bold]5.25 in the 40-yard dash[/bold] 385-pound bench press 380-pound power clean 30-inch vertical jump ....

So you think that he has gotten slower in the NFL?
He also had the fastest cone drill of all tackles in his combine. His speed and quickness aren't his problem, although there are those that will tell you straight line speed and the cone drill are meaningless if they don't support their own position. I don't know why they measure them.

However, you are missing the point of this thread - it is about negativism, not evaluation.
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[bold]5.25 in the 40-yard dash[/bold] 385-pound bench press 380-pound power clean 30-inch vertical jump ....

So you think that he has gotten slower in the NFL?
It is this athleticism (speed + strength) that I think Kubiak will need next year.
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