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Old 01-16-2006   #1
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Who was the last running back to be drafted with the #1 pick that went on to help his team win the championship?

Answer: Paul Horning (early 60's with Packers)

As Kubiak himself would tell you, you don't have to take a RB in the first round (much less the #1 pick) to have a solid ground game.
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Who was the last running back to be drafted with the #1 pick that went on to help his team win the championship?

Answer: Paul Horning (early 60's with Packers)

As Kubiak himself would tell you, you don't have to take a RB in the first round (much less the #1 pick) to have a solid ground game.
Who was the last RB with a legit shot at running a sub 4.2 forty? No one!
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Who was the last running back to be drafted with the #1 pick that went on to help his team win the championship?

Answer: Paul Horning (early 60's with Packers)

As Kubiak himself would tell you, you don't have to take a RB in the first round (much less the #1 pick) to have a solid ground game.
Hornung was actually a halfback.

Historicals do not bear our the result we are looking for, but hey a once in a lifetime player, such as Bush, only comes once in a lifetime.

Trade down for the love of God.
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The thing with Bush is that I could very easily see him becomming more than a runningback. He would basically be a skilled possition specialist. Lineing up as a wideout, in the slot and backfield. The best at what they do trancend lables.
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Do you know who was the last QB to do so??
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The thing with Bush is that I could very easily see him becomming more than a runningback. He would basically be a skilled possition specialist. Lineing up as a wideout, in the slot and backfield. The best at what they do trancend lables.
I see Bush as a Westbrook type running back.
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Do you know who was the last QB to do so??
Troy Aikman.
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I'm still waiting to hear a legit, evidence-based argument as to why Reggie Bush is a "once in a lifetime" back. Guys with speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

I'm not saying he's not a great talent that would help any team, I'm just saying he's not the answer to the Texan's multitude of problems.

Take a look at the Broncos and Steelers. We need defense.
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Don't forget John Elway.
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Don't forget John Elway.
Elway was drafted in 83, Aikman in 89.
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I see Bush as a Westbrook type running back.
Hopefully he'll be like Westbrook when recieving out of the backfield, Like Steve Smith when lined up at wide out and like Warrick Dunn when running the ball.
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Troy Aikman.
Elway was the last the last #1 to start in a Super Bowl and win. Bledsoe was the last to be on a roster of the champ.
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Elway was the last the last #1 to start in a Super Bowl and win. Bledsoe was the last to be on a roster of the champ.
Question was who was the last QB drafted #1 and helped his team win a championship, not who was the last QB to win a championship that was drafted #1...
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Who was the last RB with a legit shot at running a sub 4.2 forty? No one!
I usually try to ignore the Bush/VY hype, but if you meant to imply that Bush would run a sub 4.2 forty ... did you? Do you read what you type before you hit Submit?
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Question was who was the last QB drafted #1 and helped his team win a championship, not who was the last QB to win a championship that was drafted #1...
Looks like we both stand corrected:
Who was the last running back to be drafted with the #1 pick that went on to help his team win the championship?

The answer would be Drew Bledsoe.
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I usually try to ignore the Bush/VY hype, but if you meant to imply that Bush would run a sub 4.2 forty ... did you? Do you read what you type before you hit Submit?
All I've been able to find is a 4.41 (estimated) 40 time, which is fast.. but not elite when it comes to NFL speed.

It's his shiftyness and vission which is why he is being considered one of the best prospects of all time, not his speed.
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Who was the last running back to be drafted with the #1 pick that went on to help his team win the championship?

Answer: Paul Horning (early 60's with Packers)

As Kubiak himself would tell you, you don't have to take a RB in the first round (much less the #1 pick) to have a solid ground game.
Shanahan/Kubiak also would say you don't need to take a QB in the first round (they've at least taken two RBs in the 2nd round while the highest QB they took was Brian Griese in the 3rd round the year Elway retired)

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I'm still waiting to hear a legit, evidence-based argument as to why Reggie Bush is a "once in a lifetime" back. Guys with speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

I'm not saying he's not a great talent that would help any team, I'm just saying he's not the answer to the Texan's multitude of problems.

Take a look at the Broncos and Steelers. We need defense.
I have also wondered exaclty how Bush is a once in a lifetime prospect, but I've wondered the same about Vince Young too. I agree that we should trade down to best help our team.

Bush will not run a sub-4.2 forty, that has only been done once in the history of football that I am aware of, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him only run a 4.32-4.35 if he actually runs at the combine.
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Looks like we both stand corrected:
Who was the last running back to be drafted with the #1 pick that went on to help his team win the championship?

The answer would be Drew Bledsoe.
Bledose played in one Super Bowl against Green Bay and lost...
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I'm still waiting to hear a legit, evidence-based argument as to why Reggie Bush is a "once in a lifetime" back. Guys with speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

I'm not saying he's not a great talent that would help any team, I'm just saying he's not the answer to the Texan's multitude of problems.

Take a look at the Broncos and Steelers. We need defense.
Name one player that is the anwser. There isnt one player that will even come close to solving our problems. But bush is a good start.
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Bledsoe also won one in 2001 when Brady was the starter. Bledsoe was key to finishing off the Steelers in Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship Game. While he didn't contribute to the Super Bowl win itself, he did contribute to them getting a championship.

That said, how many QB's have been taken #1 overall and how many RB's have been taken #1 overall. I would imagine there is a huge difference in the totals over the past 30 years.
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