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Here is my updated 1st rd 2006 Mock Draft with all underclassman now declared & several playoff games settled with correct draft order-
1 Texans- Vince Young, QB UT 2 Saints- Reggie Bush, RB USC 3 Titans- D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT VirginiaJimmy Williams, CB VT 4 Jets- Matt Leinart, QB USC 5 Packers- AJ Hawk, LB Ohio State 6 Raiders- Mario Williams, DE North Carolina State 7 49er's- Jimmy Williams, CB VT 8 Rams- Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College 9 Bills- Michael Huff, CB UT 10 Cards- DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 11 Lions- Winston Justice, OT USC 12 Browns- LenDale White, RB USC 13 Ravens- Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbuilt 14 Eagles- Santonio Holmes, WR OSU 15 Falcons- Tye Hill, CB Clemson 16 Dolphins- Eric Winston, OT U 17 Vikings- Laurence Maroney, RB MN 18 Cowboys- Jonathan Scott, OT UT 19 Chargers- Ryan O'Callahan, OT California 20 Chiefs- Haloti Ngata, DT UO 21 Patriots- Max Jean-Gilles, OG Georgia 22 Broncos via Redskins- Tamba Hali, DE Penn State 23 Bucs- Marcus McNeil, OT Auburn 24 Bengals- Ko Simpson, S South Carolina 25 Giants- Chalres Gordon, CB Kansas 26 Bears- Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 27 Panthers- Mercedes Lewis, TE UCLA 28 Steelers- Chad Greenway, OLB Iowa 29 Jaguars- Devin Hester, CB/R U 30 Colts- Davin Joseph, OT/G OU 31 Seahawks- Darryl Tapp, DE VT 32 Broncos- DeMarco Ryans, OLB Alabama 33 Texans- Leonard Pope, TE Georgia |
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Wow Beer this is an interesting mock. Like some, hate some. TE with the first pick in the second I absolutely hate and would be a huge waste of a pick. Pope is a good prospect, but he is not Gates, Gonzales, Shockey, or even Winslow, so I wait till at least the 4th for a TE. The Pariots will not take a G. They got Logan Mankins last year and if they go anywere in the first it will be T or defense. Broncos will go Offense this year seeing that they have CB and LB locked up, but if there is a stud Safety they may go that route but Ryans is no safety. Jags Devin Hester I think is one of your best picks, because they are known to just take athletes and find a place for them. The Steelers are very solid at LB and have most signed for years, so look for them to shore up the secondary or take a look at a RB if one falls. Callaghan is a second rounder pure and simple so you might need to find another pick on that one. AJ Hawk going before a top DE is not really gonna happen. LBs do not get a higher grade than DE at the top of the draft. Plus Hawk is not a freak like most Lbs have to be to be up that high. The Michael Huff pick is great and I see that happening, but if not him then AJ Hawk will hit right there. Also look for Winston Justice to go to the Cards and Eric Winston to the Lions. That will likely throw some wrenches in your draft, but just looking at it it is definately a solid starting point for before the combine and senior bowls. Good Work.
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Good job, everything looks like it could happen. Except for the OT from Cal going in the first, I think that Witworth from LSU would go before him.
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I think your draft order is a little off too in your 8-11 picks, this is what it is as of this moment:
1) Houston (2-14) 2) New Orleans (3-13) 3) Tennessee (4-12) 4) N.Y. Jets (4-12) 5) Green Bay (4-12) 6/7) Oakland/San Francisco (4-12) coin flip will determine order after Super Bowl 8) Buffalo (5-11) 9) Detroit (5-11) 10) Arizona (5-11) 11) St. Louis (6-10) 12) Cleveland (6-10) 13) Baltimore (6-10) 14) Philadelphia (6-10) 15) Atlanta (8-8) 16) Miami (9-7) 17) Minnesota (9-7) 18) Dallas (9-7) 19) San Diego (9-7) 20) Kansas City (10-6) Play-off teams 21) New England (10-6) 22) Denver (from Washington) (10-6) 23) Tampa Bay (11-5) 24) Cincinnati (11-5) 25) N.Y. Giants (11-5) 26) Chicago (11-5) 27/28/29/30/31/32) Carolina/Pittsburgh (11-5)/Jacksonville (12-4)/Seattle/Denver (13-3)/Indianapolis (14-2) Here are the possible orders for the 27-32 picks: If Carolina and Pittsburgh advance to the Super Bowl: 27) Jacksonville 28) Seattle 29) Denver 30) Indianapolis 31/32) Carolina/Pittsburgh depending on who wins/loses If Carolina and Denver advance to the Super Bowl: 27) Pittsburgh 28) Jacksonville 29) Seattle 30) Indianapolis 31/32) Carolina/Denver depending on who wins/loses If Seattle and Pittsburgh advance to the Super Bowl: 27) Carolina 28) Jacksonville 29) Denver 30) Indianapolis 31/32) Seattle/Pittsburgh depending on who wins/loses If Seattle and Denver advance to the Super Bowl: 27) Carolina 28) Pittsburgh 29) Jacksonville 30) Indianapolis 31/32) Seattle/Denver depending on who wins/loses Indianapolis is locked in at #30, while Carolina, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Seattle, and Denver all depend on the remaining playoff games. Last edited by MorKnolle; 01-16-2006 at 02:12 PM. |
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1 Texans- Vince Young, QB UT
2 Saints- Reggie Bush, RB USC 3 Titans- D'Brickashaw Ferguson, 4 Jets- Matt Leinart, QB USC 5 Packers- AJ Hawk, LB Ohio State 6 Raiders- Mario Williams, DE North Carolina State 7 49er's- Jimmy Williams, CB VT 8 Bills- Michael Huff, CB/FS UT 9 Lions- Winston Justice, OT USC 10 Cards- DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 11 Rams- Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College 12 Browns- LenDale White, RB USC 13 Ravens- Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbuilt 14 Eagles- Santonio Holmes, WR OSU 15 Falcons- Tye Hill, CB Clemson 16 Dolphins- Eric Winston, OT U 17 Vikings- Laurence Maroney, RB MN 18 Cowboys- Jonathan Scott, OT UT 19 Chargers- Marcus McNeil, OT Auburn 20 Chiefs- Haloti Ngata, DT UO 21 Patriots- DeMarco Ryans, OLB Alabama 22 Broncos via Redskins- Tamba Hali, DE Penn State 23 Bucs- Max Jean-Gilles, OG Georgia 24 Bengals- Ko Simpson, S South Carolina 25 Giants- Chalres Gordon, CB Kansas 26 Bears- Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 27 Panthers- Mercedes Lewis, TE UCLA 28 Steelers- Chad Greenway, OLB Iowa 29 Jaguars- Devin Hester, CB/R U 30 Colts- Ryan O'Callaghan, OT California 31 Seahawks- Darryl Tapp, DE VT 32 Broncos- Davin Joseph, OT/G OU 33 Texans- Leonard Pope, TE Georgia MorkKnolle corrected draft order & used the if Seattle & Denver advance to the Super Bowl & Denver wins cadahnic modified selections per your suggestions
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Good pick for the Lions. They have needed a OL stud for some time.
Deangelo to the Cards seems a bit odd, since the drafted a RB with their 2nd round pick last year. I like the Pats going LB, but why would they pass on Greenway? Also, I'll have the Broncos going with Pope. Good mock overall BL. Cheers!
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Pretty good mock draft though, other than I still don't like the Vince Young pick, and I really doubt Devin Hester will grade out as 1st round talent, and I'm not sure the Colts will go OLine in the 1st round, but otherwise I could see most of these other picks happening. |
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[quote=beerlover]the Texans make this move only
I dont rememebr if i have asked you before Beer, but if your scenario plays out and Houston takes VInce Young, why not take his own TE, David Thomas. We could prolly pick him up in the fourth round, or if his stock increases we can use our second third rounder on him. By doing this, we can give Vince a target(when he is ready) a talented TE that he is familair with. We also can now use our second rounder on YOUR Boy Davin Joseph. Or maybe we can grab some OT that falls. Perhaps we want to get somebody to help our pourous D in round 2? The options can be moreso this way. What are your thoughts on this? If you hve already responded, my apologies in advance
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Looking back at it, I definitely don't like taking Vince and then a TE in the 2nd round and not drafting any OLinemen in the top two rounds.
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I'm in favour of whatever makes the Texans a winner and enjoyable game time experience. so to address your question I would be in the reconstruction camp. we all know how extensive and riddled our defense & offense have become in what seems like a overnight train wreck, but in fact it has been a four year coming train wreck. If we address needs only in the context of this current team like keeping David Carr and spending high draft picks to protect him it does not guarentee success anymore than starting over from scratch & taking a proven leader and winner in Vince Young. I'd rather take a chance with Vince Young as my QB and look to him lead a 2-14 team back from the depths of the NFL celler than a David Carr anyday. awtysst I'm not sure if you've seen Pope perform before, have you? Actually it was other members of this forum who where touting him first, but after watching him play he is not Antonio Gates, I beleive he could be better. He has intangibles @ 6070-6080 with speed 4.6 forty, and hands of a Basketball Player. Also with a fleet QB like Vince his one negative (blocking) could be a positive since defenders will try to engage him so he cannot get into his routes, hence pulling with him an end or LB who he can easily out jump for the ball. I like your idea of Dave Thomas in the 3rd or 4th round but if the Texans go Vince Young I think this gives him a better chance to be successful than any other TE, frees up Andre Johnson and creates more mismatches. At least thats my personel opinion, I could be wrong
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your in the "current needs camp" I can understand that. if I was the one who had made these decisions that brought us to this point in time I too would be trying to find resolution and vindication with my 5 year plan (Casserly).
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In my mock that I am preparing I have the Texans taking Thomas, but I am getting intruiged by Pope. If he can block and catch, we can be quite versatile out of the backfield. Defenses will see him and not know if he will blcok or be a receiver. THAT is the value of a TE and is something we have not exploited in Htown. I realize that Joppru has had bad luck, but at Pope could be a nice insurance package. Plus, if Joppru comes back, how nice would it be to be at the goal line and have both Joppru and Pope lining up!
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Sorry guys but I just could'nt resist comparing Mel Mock to Beerlover Mock
I would like to point out that my Mock was posted prior to Mel's Mock and that I have it on good authority that he does come to this board from time to time and that he might have been here earlier in the week as a matter of fact. anyway I'm a Big Kipper fan, have always loved the draft so its exciting to match wits as it where and see how it looks as a side note even though we don't agree with the 1st pick we do match picks down the board three times, and address several teams needs but with different players he just has some rated higher than I think they should and vise versa. I look forward to reworking the draft over the course of the next three months, however I'm of the opinion mine is better than his Mel- Beerlover- 1. Houston -- Reggie Bush, RB, USC Vince Young, QB Texas 2. New Orleans -- Matt Leinart, QB, USC Reggie Bush, RB USC 3. Tennessee -- Vince Young, QB, Texas D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia 4. New York Jets -- D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia Matt Leinart, QB USC 5. Green Bay -- Mario Williams, DE, NC State AJ Hawk, LB Ohio State 6. Oakland -- A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State Mario Williams, DE North Carolina State 7. San Francisco -- DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama Jimmy Williams, CB VT 8. Buffalo -- Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon Michael Huff, CB/FS UT 9. Detroit -- Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt Winston Justice, OT USC 10. Arizona -- DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 11. St. Louis -- Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College 12. Cleveland -- Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa LenDale White, RB USC 13. Baltimore -- Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbuilt 14. Philadelphia -- Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State Santonio Holmes, WR OSU 15. Atlanta -- Michael Huff, DB, Texas Tye Hill, CB Clemson 16. Miami -- Winston Justice, OT, USC Eric Winston, OT U 17. Minnesota -- LenDale White, RB, USC Laurence Maroney, RB MN 18. Dallas -- Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech Jonathan Scott, OT UT 19. San Diego -- Ko Simpson, DB, South Carolina Marcus McNeil, OT Auburn 20. Kansas City -- Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State Haloti Ngata, DT UO 21. New England -- Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State DeMarco Ryans, OLB Alabama 22. Denver (from Wash.) -- Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College Tamba Hali, DE Penn State 23. Tampa Bay -- Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State Max Jean-Gilles, OG Georgia 24. Cincinnati -- Claude Wroten, DT, LSU Ko Simpson, S South Carolina 25. New York Giants -- Ernie Sims, LB, Florida State Chalres Gordon, CB Kansas 26. Chicago -- Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 27. Carolina -- Anthony Fasano, TE, Notre Dame Mercedes Lewis, TE UCLA 28. Pittsburgh -- Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State Chad Greenway, OLB Iowa 29. Jacksonville -- Thomas Howard, LB, UTEP Devin Hester, CB/R U 30. Indianapolis -- Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota Ryan O'Callaghan, OT California 31. Denver -- Darnell Bing, DB, USC Davin Joseph, OT/G OU 32. Seattle -- Chad Jackson, WR, Florida Darryl Tapp, DE VT
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ok, now that im past that, here i go: Pack will more then likley go after DAngelo Williams, not a LB. Their D was not that bad, they also need to give Bret a reason to come back. Saint have a $50M contract with Deuce, they are going QB, no amtter what, that means Bush/Dbrick to Titans... I see the 9er's helping out Alex Smith on O, but there is not much available there, maybe they go for LenDale White, other then that, not much choice other then D The Bills had the worst run D in the NFL, both their DT's are old and Sam Adams might be gone. I would look for someone like Ngata there, if he can translate to a 4-3. Lions go 4 straight years on O? Eghh, its Matt Millen, anything could happen... I doubt Browns go for a RB, Reuben Droughns is prob. their second best player, look for some O-line or D help. I odnt think Minnesota feels it needs a workhorse back...thier system isnt too bad, maybe look for O-line help or more work on the D, perhaps at LB I doubt the Chargers go O-line here, I think they will look for someone on the outside to replace an aging McKardell, maybe Derek Hagan from Arizona. Chiefs had a good D-line showing this season, I think they will go for an O-lineman, with all three of their ProBowlers getting old in a hurry, perhaps Gilles. The Pats will try to fix their secondary, it has not been the same since Ty Law left, plus they always seem to have injuries on D. Bengals will more then likely get a DT, they were soft against the run. I could see Rod Wright here, maybe DT from LSU or the one from Michigan, cant remeber their names. There is no reason for the Colts to go for O-linemen here. They gave up 20 sacks and Edge was in the top 5 in rushing. They will probably continue their trend of drafting on D, maybe the top ranked corner. DJ Williams, Al Wilson, Ian Gold. There is no reason to go for a MLB here. Also, if Ryans or Abdul Hodge slip, look for the Texans to goble them up, even with the contracts Wong and Greenwood have... well, i guess i butchered your draft a little, i am sure by the time april gets here, we will all have a much better idea of what is going on. i appriciate the work, thanks..
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I do have one correction to make and that is I only agreed with Mel TWICE not three times as stated (10. Arizona -- DeAngelo Williams & 14. Philadelphia -- Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State)
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personally, i dont like it very much.
texans wont take young, please everyone, they wont do it no way the titans take ferguson over leinart the bills wont take huff, they need a run stuffer. their secondary is decent with clements, milloy, vincent, and terrence mcgee(who is getting much better) i think kyle boller gets one more year in baltimore, so i dont like cutler there ryan o'callaghan is a 2nd rounder at best charles gordon is a 2nd or 3rd rounder vernon davis is at least a top 15 pick, most likely top 10, no way he drops to #26 devin hester in a very raw player and doesnt really have a true position. he is basically just a kick returner, and i dont see anyone taking a big risk on hester in the first round. demeco ryans will not drop to #32 darryl tapp is undersized and he is definitely a 2nd rounder Last edited by dcarey20; 01-24-2006 at 01:15 PM. |
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