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Old 01-16-2006   #1
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Default Bob McNair: Bush Pick NOT a Lock

McNair has denied the ESPN report according to JM

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/3589395.html

Someone earlier hit the nail on the head when he said something like the only thing that is guaranteed before the draft is misinformation.
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i agree, and all they have said is that Bush will be the first pick, if you live outside of Houston thats obvious (the vince young for #1 pick reside in 281/713 dominated area codes)

But all that really says is that we are not crazy and a trade is still an option. Someone trades up to take Bush ....

I think McNair is having a real PR problem at this time he should be keeping the information near zero until a coach is signed. Let Casserly and Reeves evaluate players and prepare for the draft. Enjoy Kubiaks run and hope he makes it to the superbowl becvause that will give us another public relations boost.
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McNair has denied the ESPN report according to JM

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/3589395.html

Someone earlier hit the nail on the head when he said something like the only thing that is guaranteed before the draft is misinformation.

I don't find it too unbelievable that an intermediary of Bush/USC?Pete C/Bush's potential agent contacted an intermediary of the Texans and inquired about the Texans' intentions .... in either case McNair will deny it as will Pete Carroll .... then again maybe none of it happened ...
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Thanks for the find. This is just part of the dance called deception. I doubt the Texans even know what they will be doing at this moment.
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Thanks for the find. This is just part of the dance called deception. I doubt the Texans even know what they will be doing at this moment.
I hope so because it was becoming frustrating at the information being run around. As a GM, owner, etc you just don't lay out your cards like that. Not only that but I'm sure that info had McNair scrambling because they could lose picks for tampering.
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McNair has denied the ESPN report according to JM

Someone earlier hit the nail on the head when he said something like the only thing that is guaranteed before the draft is misinformation.
Now, let's see . . . that would be the same JM that says they are definately taking Vince Young? .
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Let the back pedaling begin. I wonder how many more times we will read, "Texans deny reports from an ESPN article" until 4/29. So far we are 2 for 2 and we are only into mid-Jan.

A Monday morning butt chewing with the PR guys would be a good idea right about now. To reveal your hand this early in the evaluation process is dumb...or was it intentional? The report whether true or not subconsiously confirms a want and worth, essentially raising one's value...
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A Monday morning butt chewing with the PR guys would be a good idea right about now. To reveal your hand this early in the evaluation process is dumb...or was it intentional?
Of course its intentional, the motive being to convince everyone how badly
you want Reggie and thereby induce an even higher bid for your #1 overall.
Jeez, you wouldn't say something wishy washy like "guess we will keep our
#1 unless another team maybe wants it to take Reggie". Whether or not you
really want Reggie that bad is beside the point. Like the ole man says, they
might get a Godfather offer (or maybe a couple or three).
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Of course its intentional, the motive being to convince everyone how badly
you want Reggie and thereby induce an even higher bid for your #1 overall.
Jeez, you wouldn't say something wishy washy like "guess we will keep our
#1 unless another team maybe wants it to take Reggie". Whether or not you
really want Reggie that bad is beside the point. Like the ole man says, they
might get a Godfather offer (or maybe a couple or three).
It impacts more than just Bush's stock...values go up for some and down for others...mind games.
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Exactly. They are not going to "show their cards" about any of this. But they will play the disinformation game like all the rest of the teams do. It's smoke and mirrors. And these "inside sources" that these sports writers have? C'mon!
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If I were the Texans, I would find the "leak" (Casserly?), and have him supply info to Mortenson that you want the other teams to hear.
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If I were the Texans, I would find the "leak" (Casserly?), and have him supply info to Mortenson that you want the other teams to hear.
How do you know they aren't doing that already?
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If I were the Texans, I would find the "leak" (Casserly?), and have him supply info to Mortenson that you want the other teams to hear.
That is why We all have to wait for the draft!
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If I were the Texans, I would find the "leak" (Casserly?), and have him supply info to Mortenson that you want the other teams to hear.
This type of stuff is Casserly's strong suit. He has a good relationship with the media and is often used a source for "insider" information. Part of the notion (false) that Casserly is/was smart (or least until this year) came from the fact that his buddies in the media never questioned him. Expect all kinds of Texans "leaks" over the next three months.
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Pure Speculation, please do not take as absolute true.

The story is true, however, from what I am hearing he told Carroll that if the team keeps the first pick they will draft Bush. Mr. McNair noted that if the right trade presented itself he would not guarantee Bushes selection.

The Texans are quite displeased about this information being leaked because it did not come from them. The leak came from the Broncos organization and it was not Kubiak. That being said McNair is a free man and can change is mind if the right trade possibility presents itself. The team is now in lockdown mode not letting any info out.

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Because he's been so criticized for moves, trades, draft picks, etc, and overall blamed for last season's disaster. . . the popular presumption of course, is that Charley is now dumber than a fence post . . . among the fans, that is.

But, in the slightest and remotest chance that other teams are actually buying into that . . . .I can see where he could use that to his advantage.
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Default They Are Chronic Writers, Not Fortune Tellers

Where, out of curiousity, does the notion come into play that the words of the Chronic writers (or any media, for that matter) should be viewed as 100% factual?

These guys will invent a story where one does not exist. That is the fact. One says we are taking Bush, no doubt. Another in the next cube over knows we are going to grab Vince. The same goes for ESPN, for that matter.

This is sensationalistic writing, pure and simple. While it makes you wonder why they don't give the fiction section a try, I would hardly by stock on their tips. Take it with a huge grain of salt and enjoy debating it, sure: but don't try to take it to the bank. You're gonna be disappointed.
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Exactly. They are not going to "show their cards" about any of this. But they will play the disinformation game like all the rest of the teams do. It's smoke and mirrors. And these "inside sources" that these sports writers have? C'mon!

I sure hope so...... I must admit, I panicked, and went into draft Vince mode, as soon as the Texans said they were going to use the pick to draft Bush.... That just didn't make any sense atol
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Is it just me or does anyone else realize the deadline for all eligible underclassman to declare for the 2006 NFL draft was 4:00 est. yesterday. which makes the timing of this disclosure very interesting and telling to say the least that should be all you need to know right there & the Texans now have both the top talents available for their choosing which both happen to be underclassman
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This is a message from McNair to Texan fans...

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"I hear you loud and clear"

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