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Old 08-08-2004   #21
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HAHAHAHA YOUR QUARTERBACK LAST YEAR WAS SMOKING CRACK! HAHAHAHA, get off the board
remember what you said from another thread only minutes ago-

"im not really too overly concerned because it is just football afterall..."

I think this is bad for the Texans simply because a strong Cowboy team only makes it that much sweeter to defeat. As far as Babin's speed is concerned all I can say is I would not want to make him mad and have him run after me. For a man his size his speed is above average to say the least
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Babin was one of the guys I kept my binoculars on throughout the scrimmage. While he definitely looked more comfortable going forward on a pass rush then he did backpedaling into coverage, I think that he showed good athleticism, quickness, and potential throughout the scrimmage.

On the pass rush...

He showed off some effective hand-combat style pass rushing skills, and did a nice job of fighting his way through blocks as opposed to speed rushing around them--which can leave olbs vulnerable to the run. His quickness was evident and he looked comfortable in taking on the right tackle's attempts to contain him. He doesn't have peek's lightning quickness and agility, but he seems to play much stronger at the point of attack. He does need to work on his ball tracking and run/pass recognition skills as he appeared unsure on a few plays, but I liked the pursuit skills that he showed off--definitely a high motor guy.

I didn't see babin play from a stance as he'll likely do on 3rd downs, so nothing to note there.

In coverage...

I was surprised by how much he has picked up at this point, but my expectations were pretty low. He covered his zone adequately, but did appear indecisive at times. Particularly when he hit his zone and found noone to lock on to, you could see him struggle with deciding where to go next. On one such play he decided to drop further back to help with a deeper receiver, this opened a hole for a another receiver coming across the field on a short in from the other side, had he stayed put he would have been in a great spot to put a hit on the guy as he caught the ball.

He needs to improve his back-pedaling and change of direction skills in coverage, and he'll never be mistaken for a DB, but I think he can become an adequate zone coverage guy. He didn't get many receivers initially running routes into his zone so I didn't get a look at how well he locked on to a man in coverage.

Overall I came away pretty optimistic about what I had seen. He's still got a lot to learn, and I don't expect him to put it all together until next season at best. In the meantime I think he'll do a nice job in run support and on the pass rush by midseason this year. Once he gets faster making his reads, I expect to see his aggressiveness return and result in some big plays.
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mark vandermeer? hes the biggest homer on 610. yeah babin ran a 4.69 but i know what i saw. maybe it was his indecisiveness that contributed to it but lets not go by what extra points says and hold off your bashing till you see it for yourself.
ok yea lets just cut the whole team because they are not good enough for you, damn. cant you be alittle patience the guy is a rookie busting his *** trying to learn a new position by week 1 and you are going to sit on here and talk bad about him, lets just get rid of coleman, lord, babin, all of them because they cant learn a new position in a week, come on man "lets not go by what extra points says" here's a thought lets not go by what you say either. you cant possibity understand the game because if you did, you know it takes some time to learn new positions and new plays, babin is getting alot better every day. and you should hold off the bashing until the middle of the season, when babin is sacking everyone and coleman has 5 picks. you are more likely one the same people that talk bad about DD too,
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Amen! bud
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Babin is anything but slow...don't know what the original poster was talking about.
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Frankly my Trolldar has went off on this guy. Seems to want to just stir the pot by making outrageouse statements.
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I don't think were gonna see much from Babin this year. Give him untill next year to show his stuff, look at Peek. He wasn't WOW last year, he wasen't consistent, but he showed promise, now look at him this off-season. He did good at the Miami scrimmage, and is doing really good in camp. Im sure the same will happen with Babin.
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im a big casserly fan, but i dont think he can survive another bennie joppru.
Trying to bash Casserly by comparing Joppru's unfortunate injury to what you perceive as Babin running funny is extremely myopic.

You don't have to be a complete homer, but at least be fair in your criticisms.
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