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Old 01-14-2006   #1
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Hey guys, Steelers' fan here.

A lot of us over in Steeler land would LOVE to get our hands on DD. A 1200 yard rusher behind your offensive line (sorry) could translate into a 1400 or 1600 yard rusher behind the Steelers o-line.

Now, with rumors of you guys trading David Carr to the Dolphins for Ricky Williams and a pick, and/or drafting Reggie Bush, would that put Domanick Davis on the table for "best offer?"

I know a lot of us would have no problem giving up a 2nd round pick for DD. I know you guys just resigned him to a 5 year extension or something like that, but running back is the least of your worries, especially if you draft Reggie Bush.


Any thoughts? Have you guys heard any rumors?
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I haven't heard anything.

And no, you cannot have Domanick Davis.
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Hey guys, Steelers' fan here.

A lot of us over in Steeler land would LOVE to get our hands on DD. A 1200 yard rusher behind your offensive line (sorry) could translate into a 1400 or 1600 yard rusher behind the Steelers o-line.

Now, with rumors of you guys trading David Carr to the Dolphins for Ricky Williams and a pick, and/or drafting Reggie Bush, would that put Domanick Davis on the table for "best offer?"

I know a lot of us would have no problem giving up a 2nd round pick for DD. I know you guys just resigned him to a 5 year extension or something like that, but running back is the least of your worries, especially if you draft Reggie Bush.



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We'll give you Davis for Alan Faneca...
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Well if you have Davis, why the hell would you draft Reggie Bush?

As a neutral observer, drafting Reggie Bush would be one of the worst things you could do for the long term development of your franchise. Either take VY with the 1st pick (his scrambling abilities will help mask your offensive line woes while you develop your team) or trade down and pick up D'Brickshaw Ferguson.
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I think a lot of other NFL teams over value DD. He puts up good stats, but doesn't run with consistency like JB does. He may average 4 yards a carry, but somtimes it seems like its 0 yards, 0 yards, 0 yards, 12 yards. I would rather get 4 yards, 4 yards, 4 yards. Anyway, the way we undervalue our own players, Im sure you could pick him up from us for a 3rd or 4th (If we're dealing, which I don't think we will be). If we draft Bush, Im guessing the Texans will try having both in the backfield in a tandem role, and seeing if Bush can handle 20-25 carries per game before we make any moves.

VY vs. RB has been the topic of debate on this board non-stop for the past weeks. If you want some people supporting your positino, just open ANY thread here and you'll find it. There are also some good supports of RB in EVERY thread also. Its all we talk about!
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Well if you have Davis, why the hell would you draft Reggie Bush?

As a neutral observer, drafting Reggie Bush would be one of the worst things you could do for the long term development of your franchise. Either take VY with the 1st pick (his scrambling abilities will help mask your offensive line woes while you develop your team) or trade down and pick up D'Brickshaw Ferguson.
Don't ask me. I don't have a problem with drafting Reggie in itself, but I don't see how he's really going to help the Texans in the long term. Especially with the Texans bringing Kubiak into the head coaching position.
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I think a lot of other NFL teams over value DD. He puts up good stats, but doesn't run with consistency like JB does. He may average 4 yards a carry, but somtimes it seems like its 0 yards, 0 yards, 0 yards, 12 yards. I would rather get 4 yards, 4 yards, 4 yards. Anyway, the way we undervalue our own players, Im sure you could pick him up from us for a 3rd or 4th (If we're dealing, which I don't think we will be). If we draft Bush, Im guessing the Texans will try having both in the backfield in a tandem role, and seeing if Bush can handle 20-25 carries per game

Thats how Willie Parker is which is why I want someone who can grind it out to replace the Bus. But, now that I read T.J. Duckett is on the block, my interest in DD has waned a bit.
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No rumors because his cap situation makes it pretty much unrealistic to trade him since his bonus would be accelerated and would give us a pretty large cap hit.
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The basic consesus is:
Reggie will help the Texans by giving us a scoring threat, receiving threat, and PR man. He is exciting to watch and will be one of the NFL's best backs

VY will help the Texans by giving us a proven leader and winner with amazing athletic abilities

RB may not be best for us because we already have DD and his East/West style may not work out in the NFL

VY may not be best for us because of his shotgun offense and his need for development time
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If we do end up drafting Bush I believe he would compliment Davis very well. First off, Davis doesnt have the ability to break a long run. He is consistant but not much of a threat to take it to the house. Bush is probablly not going to be a workhorse runningback in the NFL. Limiting him to around 15 touches a game seems to be what most people think would be the best way to use Bush. Along with that Davis has yet to play a full season for us. He always gets knicked up and misses a few games here and there so having 2 bonified runningbacks doesnt sound like such a bad idea. You people in Pitt should know how that goes with the 3 headed monster known as Staley, Bettis and Parker in your backfield.

So with all that being said I'm all for taking Bush #1, or Vince Young... or trading down.
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Hey guys, Steelers' fan here.

A lot of us over in Steeler land would LOVE to get our hands on DD. A 1200 yard rusher behind your offensive line (sorry) could translate into a 1400 or 1600 yard rusher behind the Steelers o-line.

Now, with rumors of you guys trading David Carr to the Dolphins for Ricky Williams and a pick, and/or drafting Reggie Bush, would that put Domanick Davis on the table for "best offer?"

I know a lot of us would have no problem giving up a 2nd round pick for DD. I know you guys just resigned him to a 5 year extension or something like that, but running back is the least of your worries, especially if you draft Reggie Bush.

Any thoughts? Have you guys heard any rumors?
Some people on this board may want to see him traded, but it won't happen. He has shown himself to be a solid, well-rounded RB, and he just signed a contract extension at the beginning of the year and trading him now would cost us a $6 million cap hit or so, so I don't see that happening, and I also have not heard any rumors about it. I'd sign Jonathan Wells and trade him to you guys for one of your OLinemen so he can replace Bettis.

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I think a lot of other NFL teams over value DD. He puts up good stats, but doesn't run with consistency like JB does. He may average 4 yards a carry, but somtimes it seems like its 0 yards, 0 yards, 0 yards, 12 yards. I would rather get 4 yards, 4 yards, 4 yards. Anyway, the way we undervalue our own players, Im sure you could pick him up from us for a 3rd or 4th (If we're dealing, which I don't think we will be). If we draft Bush, Im guessing the Texans will try having both in the backfield in a tandem role, and seeing if Bush can handle 20-25 carries per game before we make any moves.
Generally every RB in the NFL runs like this, a bunch of 2-3 yard runs then some longer runs mixed in there to boost their average.

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I used to love how guys talked about Barry Sanders to. They would say "Take away this run or that and he wouldn't have anything", but in the next breath they would want him on their team.
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I've never heard about any trades. But its possible.
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Hey guys, Steelers' fan here.

A lot of us over in Steeler land would LOVE to get our hands on DD. A 1200 yard rusher behind your offensive line (sorry) could translate into a 1400 or 1600 yard rusher behind the Steelers o-line.

Now, with rumors of you guys trading David Carr to the Dolphins for Ricky Williams and a pick, and/or drafting Reggie Bush, would that put Domanick Davis on the table for "best offer?"

I know a lot of us would have no problem giving up a 2nd round pick for DD. I know you guys just resigned him to a 5 year extension or something like that, but running back is the least of your worries, especially if you draft Reggie Bush.


Any thoughts? Have you guys heard any rumors?
Our O-line does just fine at run blocking. They just can't pass protect. Big Difference.

DD is an average starting back. Not bad, not great.

He is not too durable and if you think he would be a substitute for Jerome Bettis, you would be very disappointed. The Bus is way better.

Bush solves a lot of problems for us. We need an offensive play maker, he is a home run threat on all the dump off passes that we throw a lot, and is another reciever that we need badly.

O-line can be addressed in later rounds of the draft. Don't believe me ask Bill Cowher.
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Hey guys, Steelers' fan here.

A lot of us over in Steeler land would LOVE to get our hands on DD. A 1200 yard rusher behind your offensive line (sorry) could translate into a 1400 or 1600 yard rusher behind the Steelers o-line.

Now, with rumors of you guys trading David Carr to the Dolphins for Ricky Williams and a pick, and/or drafting Reggie Bush, would that put Domanick Davis on the table for "best offer?"

I know a lot of us would have no problem giving up a 2nd round pick for DD. I know you guys just resigned him to a 5 year extension or something like that, but running back is the least of your worries, especially if you draft Reggie Bush.


Any thoughts? Have you guys heard any rumors?
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Our O-line does just fine at run blocking. They just can't pass protect. Big Difference.

DD is an average starting back. Not bad, not great.

He is not too durable and if you think he would be a substitute for Jerome Bettis, you would be very disappointed. The Bus is way better.

Bush solves a lot of problems for us. We need an offensive play maker, he is a home run threat on all the dump off passes that we throw a lot, and is another reciever that we need badly.

O-line can be addressed in later rounds of the draft. Don't believe me ask Bill Cowher.
I wouldn't say Bettis is better than Davis, at least at this stage of his career. They are two completely different types of RBs, Bettis is obviously better as a bruising power RB but if you're saying he's a better overall RB I don't think I can agree with that.
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Hey guys, Steelers' fan here.

A lot of us over in Steeler land would LOVE to get our hands on DD. A 1200 yard rusher behind your offensive line (sorry) could translate into a 1400 or 1600 yard rusher behind the Steelers o-line.

Now, with rumors of you guys trading David Carr to the Dolphins for Ricky Williams and a pick, and/or drafting Reggie Bush, would that put Domanick Davis on the table for "best offer?"

I know a lot of us would have no problem giving up a 2nd round pick for DD. I know you guys just resigned him to a 5 year extension or something like that, but running back is the least of your worries, especially if you draft Reggie Bush.


Any thoughts? Have you guys heard any rumors?
Come to think of it, I was in the HEB grocery store on Fry Road today before the playoff games began. I was standing in the express lane when I happened to notice a guy who looked like McNair in front of me. I am pretty sure it was McNair because he was wearing a Texans hat. So I asked him what the Texans were going to do with their pick. He said it wasn't his call, but he thought they would trade the pick and get some help for the players they already had. I really think this guy was McNair because I saw Yao Ming in the same store a while back.
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Come to think of it, I was in the HEB grocery store on Fry Road today before the playoff games began. I was standing in the express lane when I happened to notice a guy who looked like McNair in front of me. I am pretty sure it was McNair because he was wearing a Texans hat. So I asked him what the Texans were going to do with their pick. He said it wasn't his call, but he thought they would trade the pick and get some help for the players they already had. I really think this guy was McNair because I saw Yao Ming in the same store a while back.
I doubt it, McNair doesn't live out here anywhere and I really doubt he'd come out here to go to HEB. Yao, on the other hand, does live out here in the Katy area.
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Come to think of it, I was in the HEB grocery store on Fry Road today before the playoff games began. I was standing in the express lane when I happened to notice a guy who looked like McNair in front of me. I am pretty sure it was McNair because he was wearing a Texans hat. So I asked him what the Texans were going to do with their pick. He said it wasn't his call, but he thought they would trade the pick and get some help for the players they already had. I really think this guy was McNair because I saw Yao Ming in the same store a while back.
A bald guy wearing a Texans hat?

I'm not going to say you didn't see McNair in a HEB on Fry, but I'm going to say it's not likely.
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I think a lot of other NFL teams over value DD. He puts up good stats, but doesn't run with consistency like JB does. He may average 4 yards a carry, but somtimes it seems like its 0 yards, 0 yards, 0 yards, 12 yards. I would rather get 4 yards, 4 yards, 4 yards. Anyway, the way we undervalue our own players, Im sure you could pick him up from us for a 3rd or 4th (If we're dealing, which I don't think we will be). If we draft Bush, Im guessing the Texans will try having both in the backfield in a tandem role, and seeing if Bush can handle 20-25 carries per game before we make any moves.

VY vs. RB has been the topic of debate on this board non-stop for the past weeks. If you want some people supporting your positino, just open ANY thread here and you'll find it. There are also some good supports of RB in EVERY thread also. Its all we talk about!
WOW!!! Your completley wrong!!! DD is very consistent with his running. He ussually goes foward or getts away form the first tackler. The argument against him is he has no break away speed, meaning that he has no big runs to offset the runs that dont go anywhere. This further proves he usually gets around 4 yards. By the way, as patient as DD is, Bush will be the opposite. HE has so much speed and quickness that he will consitenty TRY to hit the big one, instead of just getting decent yardage. If you somehow think DD is inconsitent, wait till you see Bush...

Oh, and JB is likley going to retire after this season, or only be the short yardage guy
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