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CaptainPatriot · 01-11-2006

Selected by the Texans. How many of you think he will be a "Hold Out"?

Xman · 01-11-2006

I think we start negotiating early. So we get him in on time.

texplayer2 · 01-11-2006

I think they will look at getting a deal close by draft day. If it looks like he will not sign shortly after maybe the pick moves on. Charlie does say he wants to get people signed early to show the Texans are a good place to go. A hold out would be bad for everyone involved. It won't get to that point IMO.

TexanSam · 01-11-2006

Haven't the Texans been pretty good to getting guys signed on time? Have they had a holdout at all since we were formed?

wrestler4life · 01-11-2006

Didnt our 1st rounder last year hold out- or was that just because of the picks before him not signing?

**TEXANS84** · 01-11-2006

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Originally Posted by TexanSam

Haven't the Texans been pretty good to getting guys signed on time? Have they had a holdout at all since we were formed?

Travis Johnson held out for a little bit, but everyone around those draft picks were doing the same thing. I want to say missed about a week or so of training camp.

texplayer2 · 01-11-2006

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Originally Posted by TEXANS84

Travis Johnson held out for a little bit, but everyone around those draft picks were doing the same thing. I want to say missed about a week or so of training camp.

Maybe that was his problem last year. He missed training camp and never quite got into the flow.

**edo783** · 01-11-2006

Can't remember that he missed any camp, but he held off signing because the guys ahead of him hadn't signed, so he and his agent didn't want to get on the wrong side of a number.

**TEXANS84** · 01-11-2006

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Originally Posted by edo783

Can't remember that he missed any camp, but he held off signing because the guys ahead of him hadn't signed, so he and his agent didn't want to get on the wrong side of a number.

Scratch what I said earlier, Travis missed two days of training camp. I remember him walking across the field after he signed and Capers coming over to shake his hand. He was still in street clothes.

BTT, whomever we sign for the first overall I fully expect them to hold for a little while. Usually the agents watch for the first overall pick to sign before they negotiate their own clients. It helps them gauge the market before spitting out a figure.

Youngstown Colt · 01-11-2006

Reggie will come into the league with possibly the most hype ever. I think the Texans will try their hardest to get him in early, but you never know what an agent is gonna be whispering in his ear.

tulexan · 01-11-2006

I have a feeling he won't hold out. Players always regret holding out and if he has been hanging out with LT then I am sure LT would advise him not to hold out because he did and has said that he wished he never did.

Wordem · 01-11-2006

The question is moot.

TexanBacker93 · 01-12-2006

Does anyone else think it's odd that Bush hasn't yet declared? It's been a week since the Rose Bowl and he only has 4 days left to declare. If his mind was made up I would think he would have done it already. I read on ESPN that he will make his announcement about his decision on Thursday. I'm wondering if he's changed his mind about coming out. Maybe he's afraid that if the Texans select Young he'll get stuck in New Orleans. Maybe he's concerned that if the Texans do take him the fan base will expect him to be the greatest football player to ever play the game since it seems the entire city wants the team to take Young. That's a lot of pressure. Maybe the entire Young/Bush debate will be decided by Bush staying in school.

stevo3883 · 01-12-2006

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Originally Posted by TEXANS84

Travis Johnson held out for a little bit, but everyone around those draft picks were doing the same thing. I want to say missed about a week or so of training camp.

oops, I thought he missed the entire season.

strange, i don't remember ever seeing him....

BigBull17 · 01-12-2006

Reggie Bush announces Thursday around 12:30 Houston time.

Samer · 01-12-2006

I don't think he will hold out, he maybe too good to do that

Sportsfan · 01-12-2006

I don't think he will unless he has a ******** agent.

nunusguy · 01-12-2006

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Originally Posted by TexanBacker93

Maybe the entire Young/Bush debate will be decided by Bush staying in school.

Many here may be having a Young/Bush debate, but I doubt the Texans are.
If Bush dosen't come out, the Texans probable stadegy should be unaltered:
they should draft the next BPA (Ferguson, Hawk, whoever) who's not a QB (assuming they keep Carr), or trade the pick.
You can go on about how the fans will be turned off if they don't draft
Young, but the only way the fans will stay away from games is if the Texans don't win games. With or without Young, they buy tickets if Texans win and
with or without Young, they don't buy tickets if the Texans lose.

Errant Hothy · 01-12-2006

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Originally Posted by nunusguy

Many here may be having a Young/Bush debate, but I doubt the Texans are.
If Bush dosen't come out, the Texans probable stadegy should be unaltered:
they should draft the next BPA (Ferguson, Hawk, whoever) who's not a QB (assuming they keep Carr), or trade the pick.
You can go on about how the fans will be turned off if they don't draft
Young, but the only way the fans will stay away from games is if the Texans don't win games. With or without Young, they buy tickets if Texans win and
with or without Young, they don't buy tickets if the Texans lose.

All hail a voice of reason.

SBTexans08 · 01-12-2006

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Originally Posted by Hoth-Boy

All hail a voice of reason.

Probably one of the best post I've read here since the Rose Bowl. I agree with you!

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Xman Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 43 Posts: 335 Rep Power: 9	I think we start negotiating early. So we get him in on time.

01-11-2006	#3
texplayer2 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 42 Posts: 358 Rep Power: 8	I think they will look at getting a deal close by draft day. If it looks like he will not sign shortly after maybe the pick moves on. Charlie does say he wants to get people signed early to show the Texans are a good place to go. A hold out would be bad for everyone involved. It won't get to that point IMO.

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TexanSam Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston Age: 25 Posts: 16,614 Rep Power: 23265	Haven't the Texans been pretty good to getting guys signed on time? Have they had a holdout at all since we were formed?

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wrestler4life Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Camarillo, Ca. Age: 38 Posts: 318 Rep Power: 9	Didnt our 1st rounder last year hold out- or was that just because of the picks before him not signing?

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tulexan Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 5,080 Rep Power: 26	I have a feeling he won't hold out. Players always regret holding out and if he has been hanging out with LT then I am sure LT would advise him not to hold out because he did and has said that he wished he never did.

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Wordem Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 185 Rep Power: 0	The question is moot.

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TexanBacker93 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cypress, TX Age: 42 Posts: 1,618 Rep Power: 3447	Does anyone else think it's odd that Bush hasn't yet declared? It's been a week since the Rose Bowl and he only has 4 days left to declare. If his mind was made up I would think he would have done it already. I read on ESPN that he will make his announcement about his decision on Thursday. I'm wondering if he's changed his mind about coming out. Maybe he's afraid that if the Texans select Young he'll get stuck in New Orleans. Maybe he's concerned that if the Texans do take him the fan base will expect him to be the greatest football player to ever play the game since it seems the entire city wants the team to take Young. That's a lot of pressure. Maybe the entire Young/Bush debate will be decided by Bush staying in school.

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Samer Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 31 Posts: 187 Rep Power: 8	I don't think he will hold out, he maybe too good to do that

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Sportsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 979 Posts: 586 Rep Power: 9	I don't think he will unless he has a ******** agent.

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