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Old 01-09-2006   #1
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During the press conference following the dismissal of Dom Capers, owner Bob McNair made only one critical comment attributable to a specific member of the Texans organization: that management could have and should have demanded more out of David Carr.

I can't imagine the same has ever been said, nor ever will be, of Vince Young. Young sets his own high standards, and doesn't need a cadre of coaches prodding him to try harder and be a better athlete. Young pushes himself, and his teammates, to be the best.

You won't find him flailing his arms after a receiver drops a pass, nor smiling on the sideline when the team is on the losing side of the scoreboard. Aside from his raw talent, he brings intangibles that cannot be measured by stats. Vince Young is special, and his leadership can bring this franchise and city what it's been longing for since the day professional football first arrived in Houston.

Over the coming weeks and months, the team's management, coaching staff, and scouts will come to the same conclusion, and Vince Young will be selected with the top pick.
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I swear if I see more of these types of post....fawning over Vick, er, Young's leadership...his work ethic...god, you'd think that Vick, er, Young owns those traits to himself.
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You know on his way to meet his agent this morning Vince cured cancer and figured out how to breed burnt orange kittens that smell like gingerbread and fart sparkles.

Seriously!
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During the press conference following the dismissal of Dom Capers, owner Bob McNair made only one critical comment attributable to a specific member of the Texans organization: that management could have and should have demanded more out of David Carr.

I can't imagine the same has ever been said, nor ever will be, of Vince Young. Young sets his own high standards, and doesn't need a cadre of coaches prodding him to try harder and be a better athlete. Young pushes himself, and his teammates, to be the best.

You won't find him flailing his arms after a receiver drops a pass, nor smiling on the sideline when the team is on the losing side of the scoreboard. Aside from his raw talent, he brings intangibles that cannot be measured by stats. Vince Young is special, and his leadership can bring this franchise and city what it's been longing for since the day professional football first arrived in Houston.

Over the coming weeks and months, the team's management, coaching staff, and scouts will come to the same conclusion, and Vince Young will be selected with the top pick.
Forgive me, but I am not sure who made a post earlier...Someone said that we should at least wait on our pick until after the combine...I agree with this comment...VY is an amazing talent but he was in a collage offense. Seems to me that collage is a lot different then the pros...I want to see him under center...Basing your pick on one game is foolish, which is what I think most folks are doing (especally that fat moron on 610: Rich "where did Charlie go" Lord). Lets get our HC first, then a OC, then we can worry bout drafting...Of course, I still think that Bush is better suited for the NFL, but thats just my OP...
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You know on his way to meet his agent this morning Vince cured cancer and figured out how to breed burnt orange kittens that smell like gingerbread and fart sparkles.
That is probably the funniest thing I've read on this board in a while!!!
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You know on his way to meet his agent this morning Vince cured cancer and figured out how to breed burnt orange kittens that smell like gingerbread and fart sparkles.

Seriously!
That was funny!
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I swear if I see more of these types of post....fawning over Vick, er, Young's leadership...his work ethic...god, you'd think that Vick, er, Young owns those traits to himself.

Its no more annoying than seeing Vick and Vince in the same sentence, saying that Bush is the savior, or that Carr is the savior...oh wait, we haven't seen that one yet...
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That a mediocre four year performance by Carr has engendered such blind loyalty is surprising.

That such loyalty should also spawn a legion of Young-Haters is pathetic.
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I can't imagine the same has ever been said, nor ever will be, of Vince Young. Young sets his own high standards, and doesn't need a cadre of coaches prodding him to try harder and be a better athlete. Young pushes himself, and his teammates, to be the best.

You won't find him flailing his arms after a receiver drops a pass, nor smiling on the sideline when the team is on the losing side of the scoreboard. Aside from his raw talent, he brings intangibles that cannot be measured by stats. Vince Young is special, and his leadership can bring this franchise and city what it's been longing for since the day professional football first arrived in Houston.
No offense, but how do you KNOW. I mean, you think you know, but nobody knows until after the fact.

I mean, Young has potential, no doubt about it. But he's never played a down of NFL football. And he's definitely never played on a perpetual losing machine like the 2002-2005 Texans.

While I admire your certainty, I'm reserving judgment on his Hall of Fame induction until I see him in action against real NFL players.

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That a mediocre four year performance by Carr has engendered such blind loyalty is surprising.
I'm not sure how much of it is loyalty. It's more of a reality check that even our greatest talents look mediocre when playing on a bad TEAM.

Anyone that hates Young (or Bush for that matter) is thinking with emotions over logic. These dudes are just players in a game.
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That a mediocre four year performance by Carr has engendered such blind loyalty is surprising.

That such loyalty should also spawn a legion of Young-Haters is pathetic.

Isn't funny that nobody is really questioning Bush's worth as if everyone caught all the west coast games these last couple of years? Yet UT is on TV all the time here locally and you wouldn't know it by some of the remarks.

I think Both VY and Bush will be superstars, but its just an observation that I find interesting...
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That a mediocre four year performance by Carr has engendered such blind loyalty is surprising.

That such loyalty should also spawn a legion of Young-Haters is pathetic.
What is "suprising and pathetic" is that you think one player is the reason for a teams success and failure. It is obvious by your qoute "Vince Young is the answer to all our questions". Of course you think Carr is the cause of all the problems. If only it were that simple.

For some it will take Carr realizing his potential with a another to team to understand that his performance has been a result of the team/philosophy/lack of resources. A new coach (Kubiak) will hopefully upgrade these areas and give Carr a chance to shine. That is if management doesn't listen to the short-sighted fans like you. Luckily they usually don't.
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You know on his way to meet his agent this morning Vince cured cancer and figured out how to breed burnt orange kittens that smell like gingerbread and fart sparkles.

Seriously!
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Isn't funny that nobody is really questioning Bush's worth as if everyone caught all the west coast games these last couple of years? Yet UT is on TV all the time here locally and you wouldn't know it by some of the remarks.

I think Both VY and Bush will be superstars, but its just an observation that I find interesting...
I caught all of the USC games. Actually they were forced down my throat.

Bush will be a superstar.


so will vince.
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VY is an amazing talent but he was in a collage offense. Seems to me that collage is a lot different then the pros...I want to see him under center...Basing your pick on one game is foolish, which is what I think most folks are doing Of course, I still think that Bush is better suited for the NFL, but thats just my OP...
1. Vince was playing a college defense huh? (Insightful)

1a. Reggie was playing a college defense as well. (Think about it for at least 5 seconds before you write.)

2. Basing your pick on one game is foolish huh? ( Your intellect is beginning to astound me. )

2a. Did Vince win the Rose Bowl last year? (How about Ohio State, Kansas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M and how about a 30-2 record as a starter.)

You can apologize to every Texans fan that Wants Vince at your leisure
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I dont like the whole idea of drafting a quarterback just because he can run better than the others. How many "scrambling" quarterbacks have won Super Bowls lately? Tom Brady is slow as molasses in January and he's won 3. Brad Johnson has won 1. Kurt Warner won 1. Trent Dilfer won 1. All these guys can not run. But they have won Super Bowls. Vick has 0 Super Bowls. McNabb has 0 SuperBowls. Cunningham had 0 Super Bowls. Scrambling is not a necessary quality in a quarterback.
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I'm not sure how much of it is loyalty. It's more of a reality check that even our greatest talents look mediocre when playing on a bad TEAM.

Anyone that hates Young (or Bush for that matter) is thinking with emotions over logic. These dudes are just players in a game.

I dunno man, at some point you just get fed up with hearing a name over and over again and you get tired of reading the same glowing (but mostly ignorant) post about how a guy is going to change everything about the game and make everyone who's come before irrelevent and you get so sick of it that I can see someone reaching the point where they get close to hating that person.

Maybe not hating them personally but hating the constant banging of the drum for that player. I know I'm there with Young. It's been almost a week of nothing but "VINCE YOUNG IS GOD" and it's gotten terribly old. The sheer number of new posters who've never been seen in here before but now can't stop posting about Vince has me sick of his name and his face. I just want him to go away at this point because maybe that will mean that all of these Vince Young jock-humping trolls will hit the road too.
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I dunno man, at some point you just get fed up with hearing a name over and over again and you get tired of reading the same glowing (but mostly ignorant) post about how a guy is going to change everything about the game and make everyone who's come before irrelevent and you get so sick of it that I can see someone reaching the point where they get close to hating that person.

Maybe not hating them personally but hating the constant banging of the drum for that player. I know I'm there with Young. It's been almost a week of nothing but "VINCE YOUNG IS GOD" and it's gotten terribly old. The sheer number of new posters who've never been seen in here before but now can't stop posting about Vince has me sick of his name and his face. I just want him to go away at this point because maybe that will mean that all of these Vince Young jock-humping trolls will hit the road too.
freaking right on man--i couldn't agree more. i say bush or d'brick. if anybody wants to jump ship to whatever team vincent young goes to, that's fine. i'd rather see empty seats at reliant that any of them.
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Some people are just as sick and tired of hearing about how great Reggie Bush is, or that all Carr needs is better protection to get winning results
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You know on his way to meet his agent this morning Vince cured cancer and figured out how to breed burnt orange kittens that smell like gingerbread and fart sparkles.

Seriously!
I wish Carr would smell that fart....David might be a become a decent QB
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During the press conference following the dismissal of Dom Capers, owner Bob McNair made only one critical comment attributable to a specific member of the Texans organization: that management could have and should have demanded more out of David Carr.

I can't imagine the same has ever been said, nor ever will be, of Vince Young. Young sets his own high standards, and doesn't need a cadre of coaches prodding him to try harder and be a better athlete. Young pushes himself, and his teammates, to be the best.

You won't find him flailing his arms after a receiver drops a pass, nor smiling on the sideline when the team is on the losing side of the scoreboard. Aside from his raw talent, he brings intangibles that cannot be measured by stats. Vince Young is special, and his leadership can bring this franchise and city what it's been longing for since the day professional football first arrived in Houston.

Over the coming weeks and months, the team's management, coaching staff, and scouts will come to the same conclusion, and Vince Young will be selected with the top pick.
If you want to see Vince drafted #1 you better hope we trade down with the Titans or Saints, although I don't see them bothering to do that since they know Vince will be available at #2 anyways since the Texans are not going to pick him. Apparently you also missed the part the other day where they said they are going to resign Carr to his three year extension and that they will not draft a QB in the 1st round with Carr here.
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