What if Bush doesn't declare? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

TheRealJoker · 01-08-2006

Wouldn't that be crazy? Reggie wants to shoot for another heisman and another national title, so he stays for his senior year.

Would make the Texans decision alot easier anyway lol

tsip · 01-08-2006

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Originally Posted by TheRealJoker

Wouldn't that be crazy? Reggie wants to shoot for another heisman and another national title, so he stays for his senior year.

Would make the Texans decision alot easier anyway lol

...fewer young/bush threads or more?

BREAZE · 01-08-2006

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Originally Posted by tsip

...fewer young/bush threads or more?

I'll bite.

All indications were he is comong out. However, he now knows with certainy he's either going to Houston or N.O. What if his pasrtor advised him not to go on with this because Houston would be a pressure cooker by not selecting VY and N.O. is searching for an identity.

This sounds crazy but until Bush makes it official it's fair to speculate...

Mathis13 · 01-08-2006

It wouldnt be very smart for Bush. Most likely Peterson (Oklahoma) will come out and some people say he's better than bush

swtbound07 · 01-08-2006

isnt peterson a softmore?

Mathis13 · 01-08-2006

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Originally Posted by swtbound07

isnt peterson a softmore?

ya he'll be a junior next year

**Hookem Horns** · 01-08-2006

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Originally Posted by Mathis13

It wouldnt be very smart for Bush. Most likely Peterson (Oklahoma) will come out and some people say he's better than bush

You mean he won't even be the best back in the NFL after next season? I thought Bush was going to be the next Gayle Sayers, the type of guy that only comes along once in a lifetime.

YoungTexanFan · 01-08-2006

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You mean he won't even be the best back in the NFL after next season? I thought Bush was going to be the next Gayle Sayers, the type of guy that only comes along once in a lifetime.

clasic

YoungTexanFan · 01-08-2006

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Originally Posted by swtbound07

isnt peterson a softmore?

*sophmore*

TexanExile · 01-08-2006

I gotta think he comes out--not because of Peterson, but because of Leinart. Specifically, Leinart's experience with coming back after having a phenomenal season. USC next year will be great but not THIS great, and Bush will be as marked as he was in the Rose Bowl every single game. People will pick him apart like they did Leinart this year, and he'll end up losing millions in guaranteed money were he to slip even a few slots in the '07 draft.

I won't even go into the obvious potential-for-injury issue.

Leinart lost money by coming back. Bush could potentially do the same. There's nowhere to go but down for him right now. I'm not as harsh of a critic of his Rose Bowl performance as some of my fellow Longhorn fans around here are because I think he was a "victim" (if you can call it that) of coaching/gameplan decisions and an awesome defense, but setting that game aside he's still going no lower than #3 overall. Makes no sense to stay.

(Although it'd make this board easier to read!

)

On the slim chance that he stays out of the draft, even Charley Casserly could figure out what to do in that scenario. So THAT's something to dream about.

YoungTexanFan · 01-08-2006

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Originally Posted by TheRealJoker

Wouldn't that be crazy? Reggie wants to shoot for another heisman and another national title, so he stays for his senior year.

Would make the Texans decision alot easier anyway lol

He has very little hope for a title next year. His QB is leaving, parts of his O-line are leaving, his tough yardage RB buddy is probally leaving.

It is very hard to build a true dynasty in college football these days, most teams wont stay at a top performance level for too many years.

Recruits must develop, and both top coaches and players that once made the team sucessful are often lured by the green hand of the NFL.

Texizgreat · 01-08-2006

Well we trade away the first pick for next year. two picks next year and get him anyways whether he likes it or not.....

BREAZE · 01-08-2006

Maybe he has sent in his name and we just don't know it. I don't think you need a press conference to announce you're entering the draft...do you? My feeling is that was more for show to display VY's professionalism. For all we know Bush was not planning on a formal annoucement and is now in the process of scheduling one.

Why the wait I wonder? Bush mentioned on more than one occasion during "hype month" that he was concerned about planning for the Rose Bowl and did not want to think beyond that. Why the wait now? Still thinking of that poor decision pitch perhaps? That was his 1st taste of losing wasn't it? Maybe he really is the next Barry Sanders.

Bush, "reaction!!!"...kill this crazy speculation.

Exascor · 01-09-2006

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

clasic

*classic*

swtbound07 · 01-09-2006

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

*sophmore*

ha! i gotta stop drinking, posting, and not spell checking...man do i feel d-u-m

MorKnolle · 01-09-2006

Bush has nothing to gain by staying in school. He knows the Texans are either going to draft him at #1 or trade down to a team that will draft him at #1, and I don't see him raising his drat stock at all by staying in school, plus he'd be risking injury or having a sub-par season that might reduce his value more (Leinart had a very good year this year, yet he's going to be a #2-3 pick when he would have easily been #1 last year).

dirty steve · 01-09-2006

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

*sophmore*

**sophomore**

texan279 · 01-09-2006

If he doesn't come out I say we trade down.

MorKnolle · 01-09-2006

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Originally Posted by texan279

If he doesn't come out I say we trade down.

I definitely agree, I'd prefer to trade down even if he does come out, but if he stays in school then we definitely trade down, or maybe take Mario Williams at #1 if we are switching to a 4-3 and he puts up a great combine and looks like the next Julius Peppers.

texan279 · 01-09-2006

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Originally Posted by MorKnolle

I definitely agree, I'd prefer to trade down even if he does come out, but if he stays in school then we definitely trade down, or maybe take Mario Williams at #1 if we are switching to a 4-3 and he puts up a great combine and looks like the next Julius Peppers.

I have been for trading down too even if he comes out, but now that Young has declared and we are waiting on Bush I have no idea what to do, I know I'd prefer not to draft Young. Or if we did go after a player like Williams, with Young, Leinhart, and maybe Bush coming out, we could trade down a few spots and still get him and more picks.

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01-08-2006	#1
TheRealJoker Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Conroe Age: 25 Posts: 3,563 Rep Power: 2772	What if Bush doesn't declare? Wouldn't that be crazy? Reggie wants to shoot for another heisman and another national title, so he stays for his senior year. Would make the Texans decision alot easier anyway lol __________________ What did the city of Houston do to anger the football gods?

01-08-2006	#4
Mathis13 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	It wouldnt be very smart for Bush. Most likely Peterson (Oklahoma) will come out and some people say he's better than bush

01-08-2006	#10
TexanExile Too Far Away Join Date: May 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 1,568 Rep Power: 1757	I gotta think he comes out--not because of Peterson, but because of Leinart. Specifically, Leinart's experience with coming back after having a phenomenal season. USC next year will be great but not THIS great, and Bush will be as marked as he was in the Rose Bowl every single game. People will pick him apart like they did Leinart this year, and he'll end up losing millions in guaranteed money were he to slip even a few slots in the '07 draft. I won't even go into the obvious potential-for-injury issue. Leinart lost money by coming back. Bush could potentially do the same. There's nowhere to go but down for him right now. I'm not as harsh of a critic of his Rose Bowl performance as some of my fellow Longhorn fans around here are because I think he was a "victim" (if you can call it that) of coaching/gameplan decisions and an awesome defense, but setting that game aside he's still going no lower than #3 overall. Makes no sense to stay. (Although it'd make this board easier to read! ) On the slim chance that he stays out of the draft, even Charley Casserly could figure out what to do in that scenario. So THAT's something to dream about.

01-08-2006	#12
Texizgreat Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Antonio Age: 38 Posts: 255 Rep Power: 9	Well we trade away the first pick for next year. two picks next year and get him anyways whether he likes it or not.....

01-08-2006	#13
BREAZE Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 42 Posts: 280 Rep Power: 0	Maybe he has sent in his name and we just don't know it. I don't think you need a press conference to announce you're entering the draft...do you? My feeling is that was more for show to display VY's professionalism. For all we know Bush was not planning on a formal annoucement and is now in the process of scheduling one. Why the wait I wonder? Bush mentioned on more than one occasion during "hype month" that he was concerned about planning for the Rose Bowl and did not want to think beyond that. Why the wait now? Still thinking of that poor decision pitch perhaps? That was his 1st taste of losing wasn't it? Maybe he really is the next Barry Sanders. Bush, "reaction!!!"...kill this crazy speculation.

01-09-2006	#16
MorKnolle Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,210 Rep Power: 0	Bush has nothing to gain by staying in school. He knows the Texans are either going to draft him at #1 or trade down to a team that will draft him at #1, and I don't see him raising his drat stock at all by staying in school, plus he'd be risking injury or having a sub-par season that might reduce his value more (Leinart had a very good year this year, yet he's going to be a #2-3 pick when he would have easily been #1 last year).

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