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Old 01-08-2006   #1
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Default Trade Carr to N.O. for #2?

Any reason to think that Carr would be worth the 2nd pick in the first round? No, I didn't think so. Some way we could sweeten the deal? A RB perhaps? Another pick?
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lets make them a package

tony hollings
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lets make them a package

tony hollings
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hahahaha that would be a sweet deal if we could give NO All of our bust
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lets make them a package

tony hollings
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tony hollings has still not been given a fair chance to play with the first team after he was completely healed. He is still a better RB than Morency IMO.

Joppru was unpredictable. He still has that potential that made us draft him.

David Carr is our franchise face, so get over it already. He has made it through adversity, namely coaches. It is his turn to benifit from a new coach and proven system.

Buchanon is our most physically gifted CB, even more than Robinson. *blast away* He is versitle and still a threat with the ball in his hands. He is not a zone corner, which surprised me when we traded for him. His early ineptitude to tackle has been resolved, and he showed that he was willing to tackle head on when given the chance to play again. Robinson even struggled this year, and I attribute that mostly to our porus safty play. No CB can stay with his man for the time we asked them to. Buchanon was picked on early, but had no help from over the top. However, once he started tackling properly and showed his marked improvement, teams immediatly started picking on our weakest link in faggins. That is the CB to cut. Buchanon has tons of potential and ability. A proper coach will show us fans that. Faggins has nothing, and that has been obvious.
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Are we supposed to sign Carr to a 2 year extension just to trade him and take a cap hit and then pay a #1 and #2 pick #1 and #2 pick money?
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hahahaha that would be a sweet deal if we could give NO All of our bust
all of those players have gone through advirsity of some sort, they are all very young and physically gifted. I can garentue that if we were to make that trade, in two years NO would be in the playoffs with our rejects at their core. With a new staff, you will see their potential translate how it should.

That trade would go down as the worst in history and you think young to the titans would bite us in the ***?
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Are we supposed to sign Carr to a 2 year extension just to trade him and take a cap hit and then pay a #1 and #2 pick #1 and #2 pick money?
I guess so. That makes SOOOOOO much sense now that you put it in perspective. Why couldnt we have Young, Bush, DD, and AJ? :brickwall

get real people, if you want that kind of proposed stupidity, join another board...or start a piggy-bank for the team.

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all of those players have gone through advirsity of some sort, they are all very young and physically gifted. I can garentue that if we were to make that trade, in two years NO would be in the playoffs with our rejects at their core. With a new staff, you will see their potential translate how it should.

That trade would go down as the worst in history and you think young to the titans would bite us in the ***?


Really that trade would bite us NO would be a playoff team not if they start any of the players we trade them


D.Carr Cant Play in this league reason 1
B.Jopru He is worse than fragile fred when it comes to being injured reason 2
T.Hollings wouldnt even make the teams Behind D mcallister A smith Astecker Reason 3
Phillip Buchanon went to the Deion Sanders School Of Tackling. reason 4 how would that make them a playoff team honestly homerism aside.
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Any reason to think that Carr would be worth the 2nd pick in the first round? No, I didn't think so. Some way we could sweeten the deal? A RB perhaps? Another pick?
I think Carr & one of our 3rd round picks could get it done. But, I'm starting to think that we'll be trading with Tennesse for the #3 pick, a player (Daniel Loper?), & a 3rd round pick. Or, something like that. I can't believe that Young would come out & take a chance that New Orleans would draft him at #2.
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Really that trade would bite us NO would be a playoff team not if they start any of the players we trade them


D.Carr Cant Play in this league reason 1
B.Jopru He is worse than fragile fred when it comes to being injured reason 2
T.Hollings wouldnt even make the teams Behind D mcallister A smith Astecker Reason 3
Phillip Buchanon went to the Deion Sanders School Of Tackling. reason 4 how would that make them a playoff team honestly homerism aside.
man, you seriously do not like some of our guys. Give them a chance.

D. Carr has had one half of a game to show he can play in the NFL...he set a record for points in a half for our team when he was allowed to call the plays. Pendry and Capers hindered his performance. Palmer was a plus for him I believe.

Jopru had no previous injury history, and displayed a great work ethic and ability. He has been working out post-injury and is in the best shape of his life.

Hollings has only gotten to show glimpses. He was still recovering when he got his most playing time. He is healthy, and I promise he is 10x the back that Morency is. He would also make the saints team. He would be the qucik, cutting back. He would contribute, and then you think...what if he was in Denver...then you think...what if we brought Dever's sucess to Houston??

Buchanon had a very rough start to the season, and he did not show the willingness to tackle head on. If you would put your "homerism" aside, you would see how well he actually played after his benching. He also saved the win for us against the Browns. Buchanon would not only make the team, but would start for sure.

In perspective:
Carr would start
Hollings would make the team, likely as the #2 RB and contribute on ST.
Jorpu would become that "dual" threat at TE everyone is looking for.
Buchanon would be in a position to utilize his ability and would more than sucede.

I did not say they alone would put the saints in the playoffs, but I did say that what you are calling our cast offs and rejects would be at their core.
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hollings is a 2 or 3 back. David carr HASNT DONE IT for 4 years. Joppru has never played a down in the nfl, so how can you call him a dual threat. Buchanon is made into my favorite breakfast food on a regular basis.
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If Carr is a better option than Young (according to many) at QB than he should be worth a top 3 pick considering Young will probably go in the top 3.
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hollings is a 2 or 3 back. David carr HASNT DONE IT for 4 years. Joppru has never played a down in the nfl, so how can you call him a dual threat. Buchanon is made into my favorite breakfast food on a regular basis.
I'm not making hollings out to be anything but a 2 or 3 back.

David Carr HAS DONE IT WHEN GIVEN THE CHANCE. He has willed our team to victories we didnt deserve, and has gotten up from hits seasoned practice dummies have still yet to take.

Joppru is still considered to have the ability to be that TE we lack. I still support us drafting one this year, but he has the ability. He is also in the best physical condition of his career as of this point.

Buchanon is our 2nd best DB, and much better than most teams #2. He has the ability, in the right system of course, to be many teams #1 CB. He is physically more gifted than Daunta, but Daunta is still a better player.
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Any reason to think that Carr would be worth the 2nd pick in the first round? No, I didn't think so. Some way we could sweeten the deal? A RB perhaps? Another pick?
Carr not worth a #2 would definately have to add some players for this to happen.
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If Carr is a better option than Young (according to many) at QB than he should be worth a top 3 pick considering Young will probably go in the top 3.
If Carr is better than Young, it's probably only because of experience. I defend Carr all the time, because I really believe that he has taken the blame for bad coaching, a bad receiver group, and horrible pass blocking and because I believe he really is a good, descent QB, but I don't think his upside is as high as Young's (IF Young ever manages to get there). Carr's not worth a top 3 pick, no, but I still want to Trade Down because QB is one of the few non-needs on this team, and so is RB. I've said before, I can live with taking Young, but taking Bush scares me and I'm afraid he's going to wind up playing WR primarily.
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D.Carr Cant Play in this league
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Gotta agree with that one. I don't think it's likely that Joppru's ever going to make it through 5 games in this league without suffering a season ending injury.

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how would that make them a playoff team honestly homerism aside.
You're right, for once. It wouldn't.

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If Carr is better than Young, it's probably only because of experience. I defend Carr all the time, because I really believe that he has taken the blame for bad coaching, a bad receiver group, and horrible pass blocking and because I believe he really is a good, descent QB, but I don't think his upside is as high as Young's (IF Young ever manages to get there). Carr's not worth a top 3 pick, no, but I still want to Trade Down because QB is one of the few non-needs on this team, and so is RB. I've said before, I can live with taking Young, but taking Bush scares me and I'm afraid he's going to wind up playing WR primarily.
Passing on Bush to take VY is one thing and vice versa, but if they trade the pick and dont get either it will get ugly in H-Town. Bob knows he cant afford to do that to the fan base and get away with it.
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