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One would hope, given that the combines and pro days haven't happened yet.Marcus said:Just keep in mind, the 1st pick will not be Casserly's decision.
IT WILL BE McNAIR'S.
And I'd bet anyone 50 bucks that he hasn't made up his mind yet.
I dont think Bush has declared...Tulip said:This will probably be Charley's first interview since one of the top 2 juniors has declared.
He hasn't. That's why I said "one" of the top two juniors. Before, he couldn't talk about either of them. Now he can at least talk about Vince.Fiddy said:I dont think Bush has declared...
Oh, my bad...read it wrong, sorry.Tulip said:He hasn't. That's why I said "one" of the top two juniors. Before, he couldn't talk about either of them. Now he can at least talk about Vince.
No problem.Fiddy said:Oh, my bad...read it wrong, sorry.
Of course I'm watching and I'm waiting to hear Casserly distance the Texans from Young completely so I can cry myself to sleep... :brickwallTulip said:No problem.
Are you watching tonight? I've set it on Tivo to make sure I can rewind and analyze. I apparently have nothing better to do with my life.
:brickwallFiddy said:Of course I'm watching and I'm waiting to hear Casserly distance the Texans from Young completely so I can cry myself to sleep... :brickwall
Should be intresting...
Hm, that's right...Casserly lucks out again. The guy has nine lives and is on life eight...Texandiver said:Hi guys, I've been following the boards off and on throughout the season, and finally decided to join the discusson.
As far as Casserly being able to discuss Vince Young tonight it can't be done. According to Tim Melton on the 5:30 news the Texans can not comment about Young entering draft until they recieve an offical notice from the NFL that he has declared. Bummer if you ask me.
Oh drat!Texandiver said:Hi guys, I've been following the boards off and on throughout the season, and finally decided to join the discusson.
As far as Casserly being able to discuss Vince Young tonight it can't be done. According to Tim Melton on the 5:30 news the Texans can not comment about Young entering draft until they recieve an offical notice from the NFL that he has declared. Bummer if you ask me.
True. Maybe we'll get something out of his facial expressions.Texandiver said:I bet Bob still asks the various Young questions even though he knows Casserly can not answer.
Maybe he's having second thought's.Tulip said:True. Maybe we'll get something out of his facial expressions.
And when on earth is Reggie going to declare? I don't know what he's waiting for. He made his decision a long time ago.
Your teasing is so cruel, lol.Texandiver said:Maybe he's having second thought's.
I wish.gpshafer_1976 said:Tulip, you know that I don't particularly want VY at No. 1. I think you've seen my heated arguments on that.
HOWEVER, I have a very gut feeling that we've just witnessed VY and Bob McNair reaching a deal.
This is just a theory, but I base it on the entire air of mystery that has surrounded VY since they won the championship. I think he's been feeling out the Texans and sending signals, and I think those signals have been sent back to VY. Below is my theory...and I think Casserly is behind it all:
PET THEORY:
I think VY was told by Texans official that we'd take him: "We'll sign Carr, we'll trade Carr, and we'll draft you No. 1 on draft day..."
To me, VY did not declare immediately after the game because it took time for the process to get sorted out amongst Bob McNair and other high-ups.
That's why you had a leaked story in ESPN.com about Texans drafting "Bush no matter what" since we (wink-wink) will pick up Carr's option.
When you think about it, Casserly and the Texans DIDN'T ACTUALLY LIE when they said they would not be taking Leinart because (wink-wink) "we don't have a need for a QB." Everyone assumed that comment meant that Carr was the guy, but with the sensitivity of the NFL and NCAA toward luring comments...it looks like Casserly very selectively beat around the bush (pardon the pun) enough to do all sorts of things with that comment: (1) Didn't get in trouble with NFL/NCAA because the comment wasn't trying to lure VY into declaring; (2) Made Carr feel safe so he WOULD re-sign and think everything was fine rather than walking out and leaving us empty handed ; and (3) Landing us a trade (picks and/or players) for Carr.
So now we get VY AND players and/or more picks for Carr.
I just do not see VY coming out for the draft for anything less than being drafted numero uno. Do you?
Remember that this guy (Casserly) is a daring GM. He might not look good on camera, but I wouldn't put it past him to have orchestrated something as bizarre as what I just theorized.
gpshafer_1976 said:Made Carr feel safe so he WOULD re-sign and think everything was fine rather than walking out and leaving us empty handed ; and (3) Landing us a trade (picks and/or players) for Carr.
Not a chance.mexican_texan said:well, has Bush earned his degree yet? maybe he wants to learn ballroom dancing. If he comes out now, he could run the risk of going third overall. If he waits and has another stellar year, can't win the heisman if he plays better, he could come back and be the consensus first overall pick all season next season.
They did.Texandiver said:I just hope they didn't tape the show before the announcement.
Casserly said point-blank, matter-of-fact (in his weekly Sunday night show with Bob Allen) that he would not select a QB in the draft since we are picking up Carr's deal.awtysst said:Someone please do post on this. All of the Texans fans in Chicago(me) are very interested.
Taped show taped show taped show??? Please?Vinny said:Casserly said point-blank, matter-of-fact (in his weekly Sunday night show with Bob Allen) that he would not select a QB in the draft since we are picking up Carr's deal.
Elise Lanier just called the 610am show and was incredibly upset at Casserly's comments from last night saying we were not going to bring in a QB period. I hope Bob Lanier knows that Casserly is turning off the football fan here in Houston. I hope he really grasps how much we hate this guy and how much this is hurting his franchise (even with stupid comments like the one last night) since the only history this franchise has is the one they are creating right now.
They did. Cass declared that we ARE keeping Carr, was very adament about it. I know I missed some of the key points and commentary because I was yelling at the TV every time they showed him. Whoever said he isn't camera friendly... ! He was asked about the "other players" besides Bush who we may want to get and no one would speak VY in particular (but they showed him playing in the background!) and Cass said a bit indignantly that we have two, three or four "other players" to look at. He addressed our options and talked some about trading down our pick for one impact player and a couple good players. Non commital on any idea.Texandiver said:I just hope they didn't tape the show before the announcement.
Sometimes I amazed by message boards. there are 35 replies on thread about Casserly on the show and only one (thank you Vinny) on what was actually said. We out-of-towners do actually want to hear what being said.Vinny said:Casserly said point-blank, matter-of-fact (in his weekly Sunday night show with Bob Allen) that he would not select a QB in the draft since we are picking up Carr's deal.
Elise Lanier just called the 610am show and was incredibly upset at Casserly's comments from last night saying we were not going to bring in a QB period. I hope Bob Lanier knows that Casserly is turning off the football fan here in Houston. I hope he really grasps how much we hate this guy and how much this is hurting his franchise (even with stupid comments like the one last night) since the only history this franchise has is the one they are creating right now.
Vinny said:Casserly said point-blank, matter-of-fact (in his weekly Sunday night show with Bob Allen) that he would not select a QB in the draft since we are picking up Carr's deal.
Elise Lanier just called the 610am show and was incredibly upset at Casserly's comments from last night saying we were not going to bring in a QB period. I hope Bob Lanier knows that Casserly is turning off the football fan here in Houston. I hope he really grasps how much we hate this guy and how much this is hurting his franchise (even with stupid comments like the one last night) since the only history this franchise has is the one they are creating right now.
This is funny because I just wrote about this in another post. She was great:WWJD said:I'm wondering why it matters what Bob Lanier thinks? Is he a minority owner?
Just sharing news...and it's just another way for me to show that people are put off by Casserly. Casserly is the face of this franchise and he is angering the fans. I think Bob McNair should know this....no way this can be good.WWJD said:I'm wondering why it matters what Bob Lanier thinks? Is he a minority owner?
I don't know, Vinny. Not to pick nits . . . but I TIVO'd that thing, and just listened to it again, I frankly couldn't understand what Casserly said when Bob Allen specifically asked about the 3-year option.Vinny said:Casserly said point-blank, matter-of-fact (in his weekly Sunday night show with Bob Allen) that he would not select a QB in the draft since we are picking up Carr's deal.
What about that isn't 'point-blank, matter-of-fact' saying we would not be taking a QB?Marcus said:I don't know, Vinny. Not to pick nits . . . but I TIVO'd that thing, and just listened to it again, I frankly couldn't understand what Casserly said when Bob Allen specifically asked about the 3-year option.
And Casserly definately said this.
"If David Carr is here, we won't be taking a quarterback. Our intent is to have David Carr here, exercise the option, and that's our plan."
The "If David Carr is here" has me intrigued, but I admit it might be wishful thinking.
I don't have a problem with him or what he's done. The fans hated Ladd too but the team he drafted won a lot of games and the people loved that. The football fans are rarely the guys you want to go to for insightful decisions on player personnel. You know that Vinny.Vinny said:Casserly said point-blank, matter-of-fact (in his weekly Sunday night show with Bob Allen) that he would not select a QB in the draft since we are picking up Carr's deal.
Elise Lanier just called the 610am show and was incredibly upset at Casserly's comments from last night saying we were not going to bring in a QB period. I hope Bob Lanier knows that Casserly is turning off the football fan here in Houston. I hope he really grasps how much we hate this guy and how much this is hurting his franchise (even with stupid comments like the one last night) since the only history this franchise has is the one they are creating right now.
I heard "we do plan to excercise the option on David Carr". Fancy speak for "David ain't going nowhere".Marcus said:I don't know, Vinny. Not to pick nits . . . but I TIVO'd that thing, and just listened to it again, I frankly couldn't understand what Casserly said when Bob Allen specifically asked about the 3-year option.
And Casserly definately said this.
"If David Carr is here, we won't be taking a quarterback. Our intent is to have David Carr here, exercise the option, and that's our plan."
The "If David Carr is here" has me intrigued, but I admit it might be wishful thinking.
I think she is just showing a frustration that has built in many people about Charlie. I just think he is underqualified to do anything and I really wish he would just hide behind the scenes and shut his pie-hole.Hervoyel said:Elise Lanier is a nice lady. I just don't think the Texans pick VY (or send Casserly packing) because she's upset over his statement. We don't need a QB. We need to see what Gary Kubiak (if that holds true) can do with the one we have on our roster right now.
Well, I'm taking the the "If David Carr is here" in the context that they would if they traded Carr before the draft.Vinny said:What about that isn't 'point-blank, matter-of-fact' saying we would not be taking a QB?