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Old 01-07-2006   #1
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3571013.html


Kubiak has become known as an expert mentor for quarterbacks and sees potential in Houston's David Carr.

"He's got tremendous ability, and we all know he's a great kid," Kubiak said. "He'd be a joy to work with, and he's got some weapons around him to make him better. Through a lot of hard work, there's another level there for him to reach."

Kubiak played for the Broncos from 1983-91. After two years at Texas A&M, Kubiak was the quarterbacks coach for San Francisco when the 49ers won the Super Bowl with Shanahan as offensive coordinator. The two then left together for Denver.





Get Kubiak and then Reggie..along with an O-line. Yes.
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damn the last thing we need is another David "Sub Par" Carr lover.....dude will never be more than average.
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damn the last thing we need is another David "Sub Par" Carr lover.....dude will never be more than average.

Guess you know more than Gary. :brickwall
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Guess you know more than Gary. :brickwall

Right... what would a someone that coached Steve Young and John Elway know about quarterbacks??
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I'm not saying I know more than Gary, but it is a possibility that he could be wrong, I've watched David play and he shows me no reason on why we should give him 8 mil to be our franchise QB......."drop Sub Par Carr", that's my battle cry.
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Guess you know more than Gary. :brickwall
Gary knows whats best for Gary and if that is telling Mr. McNair/Cass what they want to hear about Carr, then he will do it. I have never seen so many people look the other way on such a fruitless pick.
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So it's going to take a lot of hard work, but David Carr can reach another level? I wonder what that level is:

Average?

Better than average?

John Elway?

What is that level that Kubiak has identified? That's the interesting question.
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Kubiak and Shanahan were able to turn Jake Plummer's career around, I say give him the benefit of the doubt with Carr.

Plus Carr is already use to playing in a pro offense, Vince Young is not even doing that at Texas.

Houston would be taking steps back by taking Vince Young IMO.
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I'm not saying I know more than Gary, but it is a possibility that he could be wrong, I've watched David play and he shows me no reason on why we should give him 8 mil to be our franchise QB......."drop Sub Par Carr", that's my battle cry.
He's shows people no reason because he has had no offensive line to protect him. Any QB would be as scared as him if this is how he's had to play the first 4 years of his career, getting sacked 50 or more times a year. I remember the game against the Rams, the only game I remember watching this year where he had time to pass. He had a great game then (including the 2nd half) and has shown flashes of what he can be.
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Even if Kubiak is telling McNair what he wants to hear I really doubt he'd put himself into a no win situation. If Kubiak thinks Carr isnt going to cut it then I doubt that Kubiak would want to coach here anyways.
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I've watched David play and he shows me no reason on why we should give him 8 mil to be our franchise QB......."drop Sub Par Carr", that's my battle cry.
so Bob McNair should spend 50 mil and let Young sit?
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so Bob McNair should spend 50 mil and let Young sit?
It worked for Steve McNair and Carson Palmer.
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Kubiak and Shanahan were able to turn Jake Plummer's career around,

Plummer had a good year THIS season, I'm still not to big on him either.


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so Bob McNair should spend 50 mil and let Young sit?
If he turns out to be great, then yes.
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Plummer had a good year THIS season, I'm still not to big on him either.
That's your opinion if you are not big on Plummer's play, but the fact of the matter is that Plummer is playing better football this year comapred to last.

Better play from him is one of the primary reasons why the Broncos won the AFC West.
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I just don't see how someone could think that VY could be any worst than "Sub Par"
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Plus Carr is already use to playing in a pro offense, Vince Young is not even doing that at Texas.
Big stats out of a shotgun offense tailored around Young's strengths.

The name Alex Smith rings a bell to anyone around here?

Lienart is the most prepared QB prospect because he's been running a pro offense at USC for 3 years.

Vince hasn't done it for one season, he will not be prepared to step right in and be more productive than Carr.
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Vince is no Alex Smith
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Because Vince can run, but the passing #'s were similar.
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Vince is no Alex Smith
That is true. He may be better. He may be worse. We don't know yet since Vince isn't in the NFL and hasn't even declared. The Texans have bigger needs than quarterback though.

Let me ask you this The Dream, were you all for the Texans drafting Vince Young before the NC game?
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Because Vince can run, but the passing #'s were similar.
Hawaii and Texas Tech QB's always have great numbers...but nobody thinks they are a QB factory...you just have to watch the games since numbers are deceptive. Alex Smith is no Vince Young.
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