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Old 01-05-2006   #1
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Default For all of you harping on VY's passer rating for this year

He is not #1 or even #2.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/sortab...=2005&group=80

With that being said, great game last night and great season. He made huge strides this year.
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Yeah, he's 'only' #3.

Do you really think people were using his "#1 Passer Efficiency" rating as justification of his passing abilities? Do you think that since he didn't finish #1 that they're no longer justified?
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We should draft Rudy ...
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If you look at VY's passer rating by NFL standards it is pretty average, because as a passer that is what he is. He is an athlete, more adept at passing that Vick, but not as good as even Carr. VY is the second coming of Randall Cunningham.
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Young however has progressed from one year to the next and has the big game moniker on him. Those are two of his biggest assets for the NFL.
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Yeah, he's 'only' #3.

Do you really think people were using his "#1 Passer Efficiency" rating as justification of his passing abilities? Do you think that since he didn't finish #1 that they're no longer justified?

He's only #3? What the hell.... That's not going to get it done!

Nevermind about all that stuff I said last night, is it too late to change my answer to "Reggie Bush"?

It's one of those days where you wish that you weren't in the habit of checking the message board all the time.
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I dont get the avatar Herv?
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If you look at VY's passer rating by NFL standards it is pretty average, because as a passer that is what he is. He is an athlete, more adept at passing that Vick, but not as good as even Carr. VY is the second coming of Randall Cunningham.
And that's a bad thing? Cunningham was voted MVP...
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If you look at VY's passer rating by NFL standards it is pretty average, because as a passer that is what he is. He is an athlete, more adept at passing that Vick, but not as good as even Carr. VY is the second coming of Randall Cunningham.
Randall Cunningham won 3 MVPs (unofficially). And Cunningham was never the leader that Vince is.
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If you look at VY's passer rating by NFL standards it is pretty average, because as a passer that is what he is. He is an athlete, more adept at passing that Vick, but not as good as even Carr...
That's funny. In a down year Vick passed for more yards per game than Carr.
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That's funny. In a down year Vick passed for more yards per game than Carr.

Well you tried to argue my post or something let's look at your Vick vs Carr whatever. Vick passer ratiing was 73.1 vs Carr's 77.2 Carr also threw for more yards and less interceptions. OK you may argue Vick played less games, well Carr played with a worse team. So I would guess it is a push. Anyother arguments you can think of I have the stats to refute them.
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Yeah, he's 'only' #3.

Do you really think people were using his "#1 Passer Efficiency" rating as justification of his passing abilities? Do you think that since he didn't finish #1 that they're no longer justified?
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There are many on this board, including mods, that were using this as a justification of Vince's abilities. I just get tired of people not having their facts straight.

As I mentioned in my earlier posts, Young made huge strides this year. I was skeptical in August, but that went away as the season went along.

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I was recently informed that Randall Cunningham has never won an MVP award officially. I know that I have stated it on the board and others. If they got it from me I am sorry because I was uninformed. I heard he had won before by a former NFL QB and it seems I was ignorant in believing that. Thanx Mork for clarifying that for me.
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He is not #1 or even #2.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/sortab...=2005&group=80

With that being said, great game last night and great season. He made huge strides this year.
There needs to be a stat for "being cool as the other side of the pillow"in the 4th Quarter on the road in big games
The last 2 yrs Brady is #1 in the NFL and Vince is in College! They make it look so easy
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Vick had like a 180 passer rating in college...just goes to show passer rating in college is total crap when translating to the nfl.
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There are many on this board, including mods, that were using this as a justification of Vince's abilities. I just get tired of people not having their facts straight.

As I mentioned in my earlier posts, Young made huge strides this year. I was skeptical in August, but that went away as the season went along.

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I remember those using that as justification...I was one of them. And back when we were saying it, it was true. The ratings you pulled up are after the bowl games were played. So at the time, our facts were straight.

Just saying that finishing 3rd when you're talking about over 117 QBs should be proof enough to anybody that his passing abilities are better than what many are willing to admit.
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