Why Reggie Bush when you have Double D? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Ihategeeks · 01-05-2006

Did I miss something, why is Houston even in this so called "Reggie Bush Sweepstakes" All that is about is some silly hype for the airheads at ESPN to blather about insted of doing their homework.
Maybe I missed it, but unless DD tore his ACL you don't need a Runningback.
You already got the complete package that still gets production behind a turnstyle oline.

HJam72 · 01-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Ihategeeks

Did I miss something, why is Houston even in this so called "Reggie Bush Sweepstakes" All that is about is some silly hype for the airheads at ESPN to blather about insted of doing their homework.
Maybe I missed it, but atleast DD tore his ACL you don't need a Runningback.
You already got the complete package that still gets production behind a turnstyle oline.

DD's not the complete package (his blocking sucks), but I can assure you that I will not be wanting Bush with the #1 pick.

Goldeagle · 01-05-2006

With DD, and good back ups, (As I have said) Bush is nothing but trade bait.

CaptainPatriot · 01-05-2006

don`t forget Mathis too!

Exascor · 01-05-2006

Davis has no break away speed, is a weak blocker and has durability issues. That's not a complete package. Bush would be a great addition to our team. The problem is...we could also use a new OT, DE, DT, CB, WR, G, C, TE, LB, K, FS, P & SS. Oh yeah...a new QB if they are really special.

**Wharton** · 01-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Exascor

The problem is...we could also use a new OT, DE, DT, CB, WR, G, C, TE, LB, K, FS, P & SS. Oh yeah...a new QB if they are really special.

LOL, when you put it that way, we must stink. Oh, yeah, we do stink!

**HoustonFrog** · 01-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Exascor

Davis has no break away speed, is a weak blocker and has durability issues. That's not a complete package. Bush would be a great addition to our team. The problem is...we could also use a new OT, DE, DT, CB, WR, G, C, TE, LB, K, FS, P & SS. Oh yeah...a new QB if they are really special.

Thanks for spelling it out for people on here. DD has never singlehandedly won a game for us. He is a decent NFL back with injury issues.

Texan Asylum · 01-05-2006

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Thanks for spelling it out for people on here. DD has never singlehandedly won a game for us. He is a decent NFL back with injury issues.

I agree with you on that. I'm a DD fan but I don't believe he is up there with the cream of the NFL crop. That might not be a fair statement, our line production being what it is, but that's that's the apparent fact. But like it's been said, there still remains the consistant problem of all those nagging injuries. If DD is buddied up with another back equal to or greater than his talents then we have a whole new set of options available. Reggie is the answer in my opinion. But I'm just a fan looking for answers.

LBC_Justin · 01-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Ihategeeks

Did I miss something, why is Houston even in this so called "Reggie Bush Sweepstakes" All that is about is some silly hype for the airheads at ESPN to blather about insted of doing their homework.
Maybe I missed it, but unless DD tore his ACL you don't need a Runningback.
You already got the complete package that still gets production behind a turnstyle oline.

DD is average at best.

platnumdelgado · 01-08-2006

If the Texans draft Reggie Bush, which seems very likely, what would happen to D.Davis? Would he be a backup? Third down back? Trade him? I know this offseason he got an extension on his contract so this could be pretty Interesting. Just wanted to know what yall might think.

tulexan · 01-08-2006

Reggie and Dom would be used together just like Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown. There will be some series where Reggie gets the majority of the carries and some where Dom gets the majority of the carries. Except on some of the plays where Dom will be the RB, Reggie will also be playing WR.

JDizzle · 01-08-2006

Why draft Mike Williams when you have Charles Rogers and Roy Williams?

Scooter · 01-08-2006

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Originally Posted by JackDizzle

Why draft Mike Williams when you have Charles Rogers and Roy Williams?

why are we trying to repeat the lions' mistakes? draft flash, never build an o-line, and miss consistantly on defensive talent. we've got the second 2 covered ... lets draft that flash player and make it official that we want to have a new losing legacy.

tulexan · 01-08-2006

Lions OL was actually pretty good

Texans Horror · 01-08-2006

I like DD, but I have said since the start that he is an average back. I can't remember the exact game (the whole season is one painful blur), but I remember DD breaking away, running 20 or so yards in the open, and being chased down by the Defense. I think this was one of those Rams/Cards/Ravens/Titans close games. Anyways, I suspect that if Reggie had that breakaway, it would have been an instant TD. The kid has some real speed. But the question is whether or not we will have a line solid enough to allow Reggie to break to the outside. Wand has some good speed in practice, and I think he could probably help Bush run left. I'm not so sure about the right, though.

I suspect that like Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams, Bush could be productive in his first year. But I don't think you could play both DD and Reggie Bush. I think DD would have to be let go. Since he is an average back (barely missed breaking 1000 yards this year, but he missed five games this year), I don't know that you could trade him. Possible trades could be Minnessotta, Arizona, or San Fran.

Scooter · 01-08-2006

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Originally Posted by tulexan

Lions OL was actually pretty good

better yes, good no. they added demulling last year & woody in 04 which were solid additions, but they've still got work to do. and this is what, 1 out of very few in the last 30 years that it's been even above-average?

you know tulexan, neither of us is going to win this arguement lol. i wont convince you not to draft bush & i wont ever think he's going to help us ... but danged if we dont try.

LikeABoss · 01-08-2006

Some people on here talk like Domanick Davis is putting up Shaun Alexander or Larry Johnson rushing #'s or something

Domanick's rushing yards per carry is not even close to theirs, and I shouldn't even have to mention touchdowns.

Domanick is average, he would do better and last the whole season if he had someone to complement him.

tulexan · 01-08-2006

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Originally Posted by Scooter

better yes, good no. they added demulling last year & woody in 04 which were solid additions, but they've still got work to do. and this is what, 1 out of very few in the last 30 years that it's been even above-average?

you know tulexan, neither of us is going to win this arguement lol. i wont convince you not to draft bush & i wont ever think he's going to help us ... but danged if we dont try.

I think the Lions are actually in the opposite situation that we have. They have good pass protection, but bad run blocking.

T_Guru · 01-08-2006

Pretty much what it comes down to is Reggie Bush is the best player in the draft BUT the best thing for the Texans would be not drafting him. It's no secret that the OLINE is just terrible. As far as winning goes the Texans should trade down and get more picks. This is the most loaded draft in a long long time. This is also a very solid offensive lineman draft..second only to linebackers. The Texans can get a lot better this year...I just don't see how drafting Reggie when you have a great returner and a solid running back is what's best for the team. Carr and Davis would both improve behind a revamped OLINE. That's the direction to take.

Scooter · 01-08-2006

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Originally Posted by LikeABoss

Some people on here talk like Domanick Davis is putting up Shaun Alexander or Larry Johnson rushing #'s or something

Domanick's rushing yards per carry is not even close to theirs, and I shouldn't even have to mention touchdowns.

Domanick is average, he would do better and last the whole season if he had someone to complement him.

shaun alexander & larry johnson ... not very good choices as an example. willie roaf & brian waters are in the pro-bowl, along with tony richardson (and will shields). walter jones & hutchinson are in the pro-bowl, along with mack strong. davis runs behind MCKINNEY & PITTS and has norris blocking (who appears to run forward with his eyes closed). both seattle and KC have top tier passing games. bad example.

edit: tony richardson's not in, but should be.

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Exascor Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atascocita Posts: 1,151 Rep Power: 4938	Davis has no break away speed, is a weak blocker and has durability issues. That's not a complete package. Bush would be a great addition to our team. The problem is...we could also use a new OT, DE, DT, CB, WR, G, C, TE, LB, K, FS, P & SS. Oh yeah...a new QB if they are really special. __________________ I like you but...if zombies start to chase us I'm tripping you.

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platnumdelgado Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lockhart,TX Age: 24 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	What happens when... If the Texans draft Reggie Bush, which seems very likely, what would happen to D.Davis? Would he be a backup? Third down back? Trade him? I know this offseason he got an extension on his contract so this could be pretty Interesting. Just wanted to know what yall might think.

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LikeABoss All Pro Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The MidWest, Ohio to be exact... Age: 31 Posts: 599 Rep Power: 0	Some people on here talk like Domanick Davis is putting up Shaun Alexander or Larry Johnson rushing #'s or something Domanick's rushing yards per carry is not even close to theirs, and I shouldn't even have to mention touchdowns. Domanick is average, he would do better and last the whole season if he had someone to complement him. __________________ This is Peyton Manning, can you send a 30 ft long catfish po boy please? - Reggie Bush

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01-05-2006	#1
Ihategeeks Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lions Hell Age: 28 Posts: 1,877 Rep Power: 24	Why Reggie Bush when you have Double D? Did I miss something, why is Houston even in this so called "Reggie Bush Sweepstakes" All that is about is some silly hype for the airheads at ESPN to blather about insted of doing their homework. Maybe I missed it, but unless DD tore his ACL you don't need a Runningback. You already got the complete package that still gets production behind a turnstyle oline. __________________ KITNA : It's just a name that works with feline mascots. Last edited by Ihategeeks; 01-05-2006 at 03:38 AM.

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Goldeagle Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Spring Age: 40 Posts: 1,816 Rep Power: 11	With DD, and good back ups, (As I have said) Bush is nothing but trade bait.

01-08-2006	#11
tulexan Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 5,080 Rep Power: 26	Reggie and Dom would be used together just like Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown. There will be some series where Reggie gets the majority of the carries and some where Dom gets the majority of the carries. Except on some of the plays where Dom will be the RB, Reggie will also be playing WR.

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JDizzle Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,842 Rep Power: 1891	Why draft Mike Williams when you have Charles Rogers and Roy Williams?

01-08-2006	#15
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	I like DD, but I have said since the start that he is an average back. I can't remember the exact game (the whole season is one painful blur), but I remember DD breaking away, running 20 or so yards in the open, and being chased down by the Defense. I think this was one of those Rams/Cards/Ravens/Titans close games. Anyways, I suspect that if Reggie had that breakaway, it would have been an instant TD. The kid has some real speed. But the question is whether or not we will have a line solid enough to allow Reggie to break to the outside. Wand has some good speed in practice, and I think he could probably help Bush run left. I'm not so sure about the right, though. I suspect that like Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams, Bush could be productive in his first year. But I don't think you could play both DD and Reggie Bush. I think DD would have to be let go. Since he is an average back (barely missed breaking 1000 yards this year, but he missed five games this year), I don't know that you could trade him. Possible trades could be Minnessotta, Arizona, or San Fran.

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T_Guru Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Pretty much what it comes down to is Reggie Bush is the best player in the draft BUT the best thing for the Texans would be not drafting him. It's no secret that the OLINE is just terrible. As far as winning goes the Texans should trade down and get more picks. This is the most loaded draft in a long long time. This is also a very solid offensive lineman draft..second only to linebackers. The Texans can get a lot better this year...I just don't see how drafting Reggie when you have a great returner and a solid running back is what's best for the team. Carr and Davis would both improve behind a revamped OLINE. That's the direction to take.

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