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Old 01-05-2006   #1
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Thumbs up Vince Young, Face of the Franchise

At halftime I started a thread extolling the virtues of Vince Young. The moderators chose to move it to the DRAFT board.

What it said was something like this:

Watching the game tonight (Rose Bowl) there's one player on the field that is miles ahead of all the others, looks like a man playing in a game full of kids. It's hard to believe he's THAT much better than all the other players on the field. It's crazy.

What's the knock on him, or does he just happen to be having a spectacular night? Is he usually much less impressive? The way he throws the ball, with great confidence and accuracy, as if it weighed what a tennis ball weighs, hits guys all over the field, finds the open receiver instantly when he scans the field (would that Carr could even FIND receivers), plus his mobility, quick in the pocket, running, authority, throws himself on the guy's fumble, for heaven's sake--why is this guy not 1st on the draft list?

I say we draft Vince Young, or trade down as much as we can and still draft Vince Young. He's going to ba an NFL star of the 1st magnitude.

That was at halftime.

Now, the game over and Young having won it more or less by sheer will and talent, a great supporting cast, a coach with the good sense to let Young play his game, I am fully persuaded we ought to make Vince Young the first pick in the draft this year.

Lots of problems, of course, chief among which is what to do with Carr. But if ever there were a sure bet, Young looks an awful lot like it.

Let's go for. Let's do the smart thing, the right thing, the best thing, and get this guy who will be a star in the NFL for years to come. Bush might be (though his performance tonight suggests he's all too easy to stop with good, fast defense), Leinart might--he looked fabulous in the second half. Carr certainly doesn't hold a candle (after 4 years in the NFL!) to either Leinart or Young, and most likely will never be a top QB in the league.

All of this is moot, of course, if Young decides to stay in school.

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Thumbs up David Carr pack your Bags!

After watching Vince. He is the real deal! I saw him play his last H.S. game in the Dome against Austin Westlake. I said he was great for H.S. But can he do it in the College level. He answered all my Questions tonight. He made it look so easy! It`s a done deal. Texans will Guarantee Vince they will take him in the 1st round and he can come back to Houston to play at home. I bet his Mom is getting his bedroom at home ready . Get use to Young to Johnson combination;-) WELL DONE VINCE!!!!!
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Ive always known that vince young is a better player that any of those overrated ****s at USC are, but i never heard that he wanted to go to the draft. If he decides to go pro this year, i say, **** reggie bush, i knew texas would show the media how theyre *****s and that they were hyping a team that was hopeless.

Did bush do any execution during the rose bowl?, he didnt live up to the hype.

82 rushing yards and 1 TD. total, thats it. I saw him hit behind the line at least 5 different times by a tired, cramped, and injury-infested texas defense. Lendell White made more plays for USC than Reggie Bush did, where's his heisman? One occasional touchdown and barely any yards compared to your hype, im sorry, but that may win NFL games against the 5 worst teams in the league, but if you expect to get by Indy, NE, Seattle, or the defenses of chicago and washington, one touchdown a game by your "best" offensive player isnt going to help.

I say, if vince young is available in the draft, to hell with any other options, draft young, get carr the hell out of QB, he can move on or be 2nd string, but he's had enough time to "improve", and he's actually regressed. Move to the end of the bench Carr, Young will start if he becomes available.

I dont know about you, but that kind of sounds like common sense to me.
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At halftime I started a thread extolling the virtues of Vince Young. The moderators chose (for reasons unknown) to move it, or delete it.

What it said was something like this:

Watching the game tonight (Rose Bowl) there's one player on the field that is miles ahead of all the others, looks like a man playing in a game full of kids. It's hard to believe he's THAT much better than all the other players on the field. It's crazy.

What's the knock on him, or does he just happen to be having a spectacular night? Is he usually much less impressive? The way he throws the ball, with great confidence and accuracy, as if it weighed what a tennis ball weighs, hits guys all over the field, finds the open receiver instantly when he scans the field (would that Carr could even FIND receivers), plus his mobility, quick in the pocket, running, authority, throws himself on the guy's fumble, for heaven's sake--why is this guy not 1st on the draft list?

I say we draft Vince Young, or trade down as much as we can and still draft Vince Young. He's going to ba an NFL star of the 1st magnitude.

That was at halftime.

Now, the game over and Young having won it more or less by sheer will and talent, a great supporting cast, a coach with the good sense to let Young play his game, I am fully persuaded we ought to make Vince Young the first pick in the draft this year.

Lots of problems, of course, chief among which is what to do with Carr. But if ever there were a sure bet, Young looks an awful lot like it.

Let's go for. Let's do the smart thing, the right thing, the best thing, and get this guy who will be a star in the NFL for years to come. Bush might be (though his performance tonight suggests he's all too easy to stop with good, fast defense), Leinart might--he looked fabulous in the second half. Carr certainly doesn't hold a candle (after 4 years in the NFL!) to either Leinart or Young, and most likely will never be a top QB in the league.

All of this is moot, of course, if Young decides to stay in school.
I agree with you. Ignore the blind Carr loyalists.
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I've heard the same thing through the years about Cunningham, Kordell, McNabb, Culpepper and Vick. Once injuries start mounting on these running QB's they become less spectacular and have to rely on what a QB is really there for, being a QB, not a draw playing runner. Young is good but did you see him lay a ball into the hands of a reciever on the run too often tonight? I may be wrong but that was my assessment.
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I've heard the same thing through the years about Cunningham, Kordell, McNabb, Culpepper and Vick. Once injuries start mounting on these running QB's they become less spectacular and have to rely on what a QB is really there for, being a QB, not a draw playing runner. Young is good but did you see him lay a ball into the hands of a reciever on the run too often tonight? I may be wrong but that was my assessment.
I saw Young place the ball perfectly on a few occasions while on the run.
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Once injuries start mounting on these running QB's they become less spectacular and have to rely on what a QB is really there for, being a QB, not a draw playing runner.
The difference between Young and those that you have listed is that VY has never taken a big hit. He never takes that hit that would knock him out of a game. That's why I dont think injuries will be a big deal...
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McNair is not going to bring in a rookie quarterback this year. It isn't going to happen...Vince played a heck of a game and deserves all of the props that are heading his way. However, just as many of you state that Bush cannot run wild on NFL teams, the same argument may be made of Vince. Let's see how all of this pans out before running wild...if that is possible around here.
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For all you diehard Longhorn fans...does any of this "forget bush, draft Young" have to do with...well, who was playing on which team?

Hmm....
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The difference between Young and those that you have listed is that VY has never taken a big hit. He never takes that hit that would knock him out of a game. That's why I dont think injuries will be a big deal...
I heard the exact same thing with Vick too. Runners always get hit in the NFL.
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Hopefully you're kidding.

I'm sure you wanted Vince Young after his decent game against A&M. Or even after the Big 12 Championship game. Vince Young may be a good QB in the NFL, but we don't even know how good David Carr is! He's never been able to be the type of QB that he's used to being. He's not a 3 step drop and throw a 2 yard screen QB. He's the type of guy who takes 5 steps back and watches the play unfold. Until Carr gets an O-line to protect him, we don't know how good he can be. I stick with Carr.
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I wish Bob had the balls to draft Vince
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Hopefully you're kidding.

I'm sure you wanted Vince Young after his decent game against A&M. Or even after the Big 12 Championship game. Vince Young may be a good QB in the NFL, but we don't even know how good David Carr is! He's never been able to be the type of QB that he's used to being. He's not a 3 step drop and throw a 2 yard screen QB. He's the type of guy who takes 5 steps back and watches the play unfold. Until Carr gets an O-line to protect him, we don't know how good he can be. I stick with Carr.
stick with carr and you will never see this franchise win a playoff game
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stick with carr and you will never see this franchise win a playoff game
We wouldnt make the playoffs with him
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What more is there to say? Come home!!! This guy is a franchise player! Do not waste his talent and make him a receiver. He is a leader. Build a franchise around his talent. Please don't screw this up Uncle Charley!!! You already drafted the wrong Johnson last year (Travis instead of Derrick).

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\\Quote Nighthawk
\At halftime I started a thread extolling the virtues of Vince Young. The moderators chose to move it to the DRAFT board.

What it said was something like this:

Watching the game tonight (Rose Bowl) there's one player on the field that is miles ahead of all the others, looks like a man playing in a game full of kids. It's hard to believe he's THAT much better than all the other players on the field. It's crazy.

What's the knock on him, or does he just happen to be having a spectacular night? Is he usually much less impressive? The way he throws the ball, with great confidence and accuracy, as if it weighed what a tennis ball weighs, hits guys all over the field, finds the open receiver instantly when he scans the field (would that Carr could even FIND receivers), plus his mobility, quick in the pocket, running, authority, throws himself on the guy's fumble, for heaven's sake--why is this guy not 1st on the draft list?

I say we draft Vince Young, or trade down as much as we can and still draft Vince Young. He's going to ba an NFL star of the 1st magnitude.

That was at halftime.

Now, the game over and Young having won it more or less by sheer will and talent, a great supporting cast, a coach with the good sense to let Young play his game, I am fully persuaded we ought to make Vince Young the first pick in the draft this year.

Lots of problems, of course, chief among which is what to do with Carr. But if ever there were a sure bet, Young looks an awful lot like it.

Let's go for. Let's do the smart thing, the right thing, the best thing, and get this guy who will be a star in the NFL for years to come. Bush might be (though his performance tonight suggests he's all too easy to stop with good, fast defense), Leinart might--he looked fabulous in the second half. Carr certainly doesn't hold a candle (after 4 years in the NFL!) to either Leinart or Young, and most likely will never be a top QB in the league.

All of this is moot, of course, if Young decides to stay in school.




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