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LiveForTheGame · 08-04-2004

Every year there are 1 or 2 teams that surprise everyone with their success. Last year the Panthers, Bengals, and yes- even the Cowboys were the surprise teams. Who are the surprise success teams this year? (they don't have to go to the playoffs but just be more successful than most would think)

Also, every year there is are 1 or 2 teams that are a bust. Last year the Bucs and Raiders fell apart from their Super Bowl season the year before. Who are this year's bust teams?

TheOgre · 08-04-2004

Dark horses - Atlanta, Jacksonville

Free fallers - Cowboys, Panthers

Panther5407 · 08-04-2004

On the rise: Texans, Falcons, Bills

Falling: Titans, Cowboys, someone else i cant think of

WWJD · 08-04-2004

Improved: Chiefs, Falcons

Falling: Dolphins, 49ers

Team that will be favorite for SB: Pats again

Panther5407 · 08-04-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWJD

Improved: Chiefs, Falcons

Falling: Dolphins, 49ers

Team that will be favorite for SB: Pats again

You reminded me of my last team on the fall. The niners are going way down.

WWJD · 08-04-2004

Yep. The 49ers are certainly rebuilding. I'm not even sure who their QB is since Garcia is gone.

Blake · 08-04-2004

I think the 49ers would be great with a good QB.

WR Brandon Lloyd/Rashaun Woods/Cedrick Wilson/Curtis Conway

I think woods is a big time sleeper.

WWJD · 08-04-2004

That Woods kid is a terrific receiver. I expect he'll be a great pro player.

LiveForTheGame · 08-04-2004

Breakout teams: Falcons, Texans, Chargers, Bucs (Turn around from last season's embarrassment)

Busts: Titans (McNair can't be superman forever), Rams continue to decline, Chiefs

Super Bowl teams: Eagles vs. Pats (Brady finds a way to win)

DoCt3rJ · 08-04-2004

Hm, I don't see the Cowboys bein bust. Vinny or especially Drew Henson would be a better QB, now they have 2 better RB's, their o-line is better. Their D is better in my opinion, Pete Hunter should be better than Mario last year, and Donald Mitchell is back along with some rookies. 49ers are gonna be terrible this year, sorry. Too many young people at the WR position. They'll have big games, but won't be consistent enough. Falcons are capable of bein the suprise team altho its no suprise, cause they diden't have Vick last year. Many teams could be the suprise team, you never know. The only team I see as a for sure, not gonna change, is the Patriots, cause if anything, they got better. I think Tampa will suprise some people, even with the loss of Lynch and Sapp and Johnson, I also do not see the Eagles winning the superbowl even with Kearse and T.O. - They got two 2nd year players starting at corner with a rookie in the nickelback, it won't be lk having Taylor/Vincent and those 2 as the nickelbacks, so I see that as a bit of a weakness. Texans need Carr to step it up this year, if he does they will definately be playoff potential, it's all on his shoulders, hes got the weapons, they got some experience, time to earn those big bucks. My sleeper for the year to make it close to the superbowl is the Ravens

blockhead83 · 08-04-2004

Tanking: 49er's, Titans, Dolphins
Sleepers: Lions will be .500 or better, Texans will be at .500 or very close

Ihategeeks · 08-04-2004

Lions, Bills, Falcons, Giants, Bengals,

keyfro · 08-04-2004

rise: bears, cards, texans
falling: fins, 49ers(way down), and giants

my pick for superbowl apperance...ind vs gb...packers win...farve retires

**Lucky** · 08-04-2004

UP:
Houston – It took 3 years, but the Texans now have legit NFL starters at every position. Talented roster with an overachieving mentality that can make a 4-5 win leap this season.

Atlanta – New head coach Jim Mora, Jr. should bring a Falcon defense back to respectability. New O-line coach Alex Gibbs will work wonders for struggling line. Oh, and Mike Vick is healthy. The new WCO with rollouts & moving pockets is tailor-made for Vick.

Down:
Miami – Dolphins were looking at a down year before Ricky’s defection. 2 backup QB’s will “battle” for the starting spot. O-line is a pending disaster. The defense has talent, but is beginning to show wear. Stud DE Ogunleye may sit out much of the season in a contract dispute. Could wind up with a top 5 draft pick in the ’05 draft.

Dallas – Vinny, Eddie, & Keyshawn would have made a great set of triplets…about 5 years ago. In ’03, Dallas went 8-2 against teams with losing records, 5-1 in the NFC Least. Won’t happen again. They did it with mirrors last year. This year, the mirror is “cracked”.

HowBoutThemCowboys! · 08-04-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky

UP:
Houston – It took 3 years, but the Texans now have legit NFL starters at every position. Talented roster with an overachieving mentality that can make a 4-5 win leap this season.

Atlanta – New head coach Jim Mora, Jr. should bring a Falcon defense back to respectability. New O-line coach Alex Gibbs will work wonders for struggling line. Oh, and Mike Vick is healthy. The new WCO with rollouts & moving pockets is tailor-made for Vick.

Down:
Miami – Dolphins were looking at a down year before Ricky’s defection. 2 backup QB’s will “battle” for the starting spot. O-line is a pending disaster. The defense has talent, but is beginning to show wear. Stud DE Ogunleye may sit out much of the season in a contract dispute. Could wind up with a top 5 draft pick in the ’05 draft.

Dallas – Vinny, Eddie, & Keyshawn would have made a great set of triplets…about 5 years ago. In ’03, Dallas went 8-2 against teams with losing records, 5-1 in the NFC Least. Won’t happen again. They did it with mirrors last year. This year, the mirror is “cracked”.

lol, out of every single fan here you hate Dallas the most. We'll see who goes down next season, we'll see

LiveForTheGame · 08-04-2004

I don't think the Cowboys are going to change much from last year. They might not make the playoffs or be as successful as last year, but Parcells will keep them winning and in the running for a playoff spot- it's what comes with having the 2nd best coach in the league (2nd behind Belichek...spelling?).

**Lucky** · 08-04-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by HowBoutThemCowboys!

lol, out of every single fan here you hate Dallas the most.

You flatter me, sir.

HowBoutThemCowboys! · 08-04-2004

lol yes good sir. I'm the one playing the piano -

texan_fan · 08-04-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveForTheGame

Every year there are 1 or 2 teams that surprise everyone with their success. Last year the Panthers, Bengals, and yes- even the Cowboys were the surprise teams. Who are the surprise success teams this year? (they don't have to go to the playoffs but just be more successful than most would think)

Also, every year there is are 1 or 2 teams that are a bust. Last year the Bucs and Raiders fell apart from their Super Bowl season the year before. Who are this year's bust teams?

Surprise: Detroit
Bust: Philly

texan_fan · 08-04-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by HowBoutThemCowboys!

lol, out of every single fan here you hate Dallas the most. We'll see who goes down next season, we'll see

Uh, NO...actually, that title belongs to ME! If you ask my 4 and 6 year old:
*What's the BAD WORD?* They smile and scream DALLAS COWBOYS!!!

08-04-2004	#1
LiveForTheGame Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston Age: 25 Posts: 311 Rep Power: 0	Surprise team... Every year there are 1 or 2 teams that surprise everyone with their success. Last year the Panthers, Bengals, and yes- even the Cowboys were the surprise teams. Who are the surprise success teams this year? (they don't have to go to the playoffs but just be more successful than most would think) Also, every year there is are 1 or 2 teams that are a bust. Last year the Bucs and Raiders fell apart from their Super Bowl season the year before. Who are this year's bust teams?

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Panther5407 All Pro Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 24 Posts: 816 Rep Power: 10	On the rise: Texans, Falcons, Bills Falling: Titans, Cowboys, someone else i cant think of __________________ Texan By Birth, Aggie by the Grace of God

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Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,608 Rep Power: 15288	I think the 49ers would be great with a good QB. WR Brandon Lloyd/Rashaun Woods/Cedrick Wilson/Curtis Conway I think woods is a big time sleeper. __________________

08-04-2004	#13
keyfro Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 13	rise: bears, cards, texans falling: fins, 49ers(way down), and giants my pick for superbowl apperance...ind vs gb...packers win...farve retires __________________ With the 10th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Houston Texans select...?????

08-04-2004	#18
HowBoutThemCowboys! All Pro Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin Age: 22 Posts: 782 Rep Power: 29	lol yes good sir. I'm the one playing the piano - __________________ Don't hate the name Respect the Game Dallas Cowboys- 5 Time World Champions

08-04-2004	#2
TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	Dark horses - Atlanta, Jacksonville Free fallers - Cowboys, Panthers

08-04-2004	#4
WWJD Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,260 Rep Power: 374	Improved: Chiefs, Falcons Falling: Dolphins, 49ers Team that will be favorite for SB: Pats again

08-04-2004	#10
DoCt3rJ Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Age: 27 Posts: 357 Rep Power: 10	Hm, I don't see the Cowboys bein bust. Vinny or especially Drew Henson would be a better QB, now they have 2 better RB's, their o-line is better. Their D is better in my opinion, Pete Hunter should be better than Mario last year, and Donald Mitchell is back along with some rookies. 49ers are gonna be terrible this year, sorry. Too many young people at the WR position. They'll have big games, but won't be consistent enough. Falcons are capable of bein the suprise team altho its no suprise, cause they diden't have Vick last year. Many teams could be the suprise team, you never know. The only team I see as a for sure, not gonna change, is the Patriots, cause if anything, they got better. I think Tampa will suprise some people, even with the loss of Lynch and Sapp and Johnson, I also do not see the Eagles winning the superbowl even with Kearse and T.O. - They got two 2nd year players starting at corner with a rookie in the nickelback, it won't be lk having Taylor/Vincent and those 2 as the nickelbacks, so I see that as a bit of a weakness. Texans need Carr to step it up this year, if he does they will definately be playoff potential, it's all on his shoulders, hes got the weapons, they got some experience, time to earn those big bucks. My sleeper for the year to make it close to the superbowl is the Ravens

08-04-2004	#11
blockhead83 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: College Station, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 715 Rep Power: 10	Tanking: 49er's, Titans, Dolphins Sleepers: Lions will be .500 or better, Texans will be at .500 or very close

08-04-2004	#12
Ihategeeks Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lions Hell Age: 29 Posts: 1,877 Rep Power: 24	Lions, Bills, Falcons, Giants, Bengals,

08-04-2004	#14
Lucky Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 12,020 Rep Power: 39274	UP: Houston – It took 3 years, but the Texans now have legit NFL starters at every position. Talented roster with an overachieving mentality that can make a 4-5 win leap this season. Atlanta – New head coach Jim Mora, Jr. should bring a Falcon defense back to respectability. New O-line coach Alex Gibbs will work wonders for struggling line. Oh, and Mike Vick is healthy. The new WCO with rollouts & moving pockets is tailor-made for Vick. Down: Miami – Dolphins were looking at a down year before Ricky’s defection. 2 backup QB’s will “battle” for the starting spot. O-line is a pending disaster. The defense has talent, but is beginning to show wear. Stud DE Ogunleye may sit out much of the season in a contract dispute. Could wind up with a top 5 draft pick in the ’05 draft. Dallas – Vinny, Eddie, & Keyshawn would have made a great set of triplets…about 5 years ago. In ’03, Dallas went 8-2 against teams with losing records, 5-1 in the NFC Least. Won’t happen again. They did it with mirrors last year. This year, the mirror is “cracked”.

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