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Old 01-03-2006   #1
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Does anyone know of who the 7-8 teams with a head coaching vacancy is gonna interview that is African American? Every coach I've heard of has been Caucasion.
The NFL says every team that has a vacancy has to interview African Americans.
Just curious since it's a rule with consequences if not followed.
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isnt greg williams black?
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Jerry Gray will probably be interviewed by all just to comply with the rules. Hope he gets a chance, here or somewhere.
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Sadly most teams will just interview a token black coach or coordinator with no desire to hire them.

I understand why they have the rule and think that it is a good idea, but believe that most of the time teams just interview a minority candidate because they have to rather than because they want to. I mean some of these teams interview the most random candidate because they are black and they have to. On the other hand, without this rule, coaches like Tony Dungy, Lovie Smith, and Romeo Crennel might not have gotten the opportunity to make it in the NFL.

So I really don't know what to think.
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I want someone who understands good offensive line scheme. That limits my top choices to the OCs at Denver and Kansas City, neither of which happen to be black. If they were black, I'd be all for it. But I want the guy who's most qualified to fix our problem, regardless of color.
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Art Shell used to be the token black interview for a while (after his head coaching stint) teams didn't know what to do after he took his hat out of the ring

I say if someone's the best, hire them.
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If I had the opporunity and qualifications to be a coach of any kind in the NFL I would personally be offended if teams interviewed me because the NFL was forcing them to because of my skin color. That is f'ed up in its own. But I guess that's the way it has to be to give the good black coaches a chance.
Is there a requirement for hispanic and asian coaches?
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isnt greg williams black?

I hope your joking!! And if your not, no Greg Williams isn't black. He is the defensive cor. at Washinton. As far as Jerry Grey, he is black as was mentioned by McNair right after the news conference as a person they asked permission to speak to and someone the Texans will look at hard.
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isnt greg williams black?
Just because his last name is williams doesn't mean he's black. No he is not
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Sadly most teams will just interview a token black coach or coordinator with no desire to hire them.

I understand why they have the rule and think that it is a good idea, but believe that most of the time teams just interview a minority candidate because they have to rather than because they want to. I mean some of these teams interview the most random candidate because they are black and they have to. On the other hand, without this rule, coaches like Tony Dungy, Lovie Smith, and Romeo Crennel might not have gotten the opportunity to make it in the NFL.

So I really don't know what to think.
I think the rule stinks. I think in this day and age teams hire the best person for the job period. The guys you mentioned didn't get hired because of the Rooney rule. They were the best person for the job. If someone doesn't want to hire a person because of race then they aren't going to do it. Rooney rule has no effect.
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Well it seems like Herm Edwards could be available.

As far as the language reads I think its you have to interview a minority candidate not so much a african-american one. I mean I feel like the rule has helped in some aspects b/c for the longest it was a hire who you know and coaches were just being recycled and left out the coaches you just mentioned.

All that said I just want a coach I can feel GOOD about.
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I mentioned before that Jeff Fisher was one of my choices because he was a player in the league and because he is a defensive coordinator that fired up his unit to play hard for him all the time. The more I think of it, getting Jerry Gray could possibly be and have the same results.

Put my list like this:

1.) Kubiak
2.) Jerry Gray
3.) Herm Edwards or Jeff Fisher if either/or are available.
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If I had the opporunity and qualifications to be a coach of any kind in the NFL I would personally be offended if teams interviewed me because the NFL was forcing them to because of my skin color. That is f'ed up in its own. But I guess that's the way it has to be to give the good black coaches a chance.
Is there a requirement for hispanic and asian coaches?
Are there any qualified asian or hispanic candidates?
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The one thing I fear of having a black coach is Houston fans. You heard how they treated Moon and his family in the stands when Moon was one of the first black QBs, imagine what they will do when a black man is a coach.

Also by saying this, I am not assuming a black coach will fail or be a losing one. I am saying that if he does end up making bad calls and stuff you will hear alot of bad remarks.
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I may be giving the city a little too much credit, but I think it's ready for a black HC, not that it will happen, but i think the city's ready.
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Yea I want to give the city a little bit of credit as well but then again it would be the first african-american to head any pro franchise in Houston.

I have mixed feelings about this one.
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Yea I want to give the city a little bit of credit as well but then again it would be the first african-american to head any pro franchise in Houston.

I have mixed feelings about this one.
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