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Old 01-02-2006   #1
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Lightbulb To all the ones that say trade for more picks

I dont believe some few of you that think we should trade Bush or the pick for more picks.Then when Casserly has all those extra picks what do you think he will do with them. Then You will be the first to complain about all the wasted picks in 06'.Bush is the only sure thing in the Draft and we should not pass that for NOTHING!
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I dont believe some few of you that think we should trade Bush or the pick for more picks.Then when Casserly has all those extra picks what do you think he will do with them. Then You will be the first to complain about all the wasted picks in 06'.Bush is the only sure thing in the Draft and we should not pass that for NOTHING!
Bush is not any more of a sure thing than anyone else in the draft, Casserly has made some intelligent draft decisions in the past (the same cannot be said for hi s free agent moves), and McNair, the new coach, and maybe Dan Reeves will be here to make sure he does a good job with the added picks. I don't see how so many people think Bush is some magical person that is going to instantly turn our team around and make it so much better.
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I'll second that emotion mainly because Casserly stinks with handling multiple draft pick deals. Cass needs to implement the KISS method on that #1 pick.
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I don't see how so many people think Bush is some magical person that is going to instantly turn our team around and make it so much better.
But he will fill seats in the immediate future which McNair needs. With or without Bush we're still gonna struggle at the beginning of the season because of all the changes. That and some lousy players are still going to be on the roster...takes time to weed out the players the new coach doesn't want (especially the ones with multiyear fat contracts).
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mcnair is a businessman who understands every facet of "long-term." he knows as well as others that bush's value is more important than his numbers he MIGHT be able to put up
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I agree with you that McNair knows his value......................Tickets, Jerseys, and National Coverage!

Oh, and he WILL put up the numbers!

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actaully, i meant value as in other young players through a trade down with the potential to be key players for years to come
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The draft is already a crap-shoot. Why turn one pick that has the possibility to be a bust into many.

We will not know anything about most of these guys until the combine, their pro-day, and private individual workouts.

Draft-ology 101:
1. Take the best player available.
2. Revisit #1
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The draft is already a crap-shoot. Why turn one pick that has the possibility to be a bust into many.
yes, its a crapshoot. so why not take the risk of getting more players with the same potential?

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mcnair is a businessman who understands every facet of "long-term." he knows as well as others that bush's value is more important than his numbers he MIGHT be able to put up
Mcnair wants Bush, he is the Lebron of football, and hopefully he won't miss on a player that can change the game of football. Besides why give CC a chance to throw away more picks.:brickwall
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I dont believe some few of you that think we should trade Bush or the pick for more picks.Then when Casserly has all those extra picks what do you think he will do with them. Then You will be the first to complain about all the wasted picks in 06'.Bush is the only sure thing in the Draft and we should not pass that for NOTHING!
You should get your head out of fantasy football thinking and come into the real world. Look at Denver. They can put anybody at RB and succeed because they have a good OL. And if you will recall, the Colts and Seahawks were looking to trade two of the best RBs in the game because it's common knowledge that RBs are both disposable and replaceable. Besides, drafting one guy at RB certainly doesn't help you with a porous rushing and passing defense. If they draft Bush, I hope you get all excited if Bush breaks off a big run -- and the Texans lose repeatedly 38-7 and 42-10.
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Mcnair wants Bush, he is the Lebron of football, and hopefully he won't miss on a player that can change the game of football. Besides why give CC a chance to throw away more picks.:brickwall
They said the same thing about Lawrence Phillips and Archie Griffin. Those who ignore the blunders of history are condemned to repeat them.
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I don't think anyone here believes we will be a playoff contender next season, so why limit our thinking to how much we can improve in one off season?

Let's look at this as at least a two year process.
We then consider the improvement possible over the next two offseasons to include free agency.
I think that there should be ample opportunity to fill many of our holes over that period of time, and over that period of time(and beyond), we are better off with Bush.


This post seems to be awkwardly worded, but it's late and I don't have the mental capacity to go back and pretty it up...
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taking the best player is only applied when your team has no blatant needs
Yeah tell the Bengals that when they took Carson Palmer when Kitna was lighting it up. Now look where they are.
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Yeah tell the Bengals that when they took Carson Palmer when Kitna was lighting it up. Now look where they are.
A.) Palmer is a QB, not a RB. B.) Palmer didn't come into his own until this year. The Bengals previously had made moves up the ladder and were at .500 or above the last few seasons. Hence, the analogy doesn't fit.
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Yeah tell the Bengals that when they took Carson Palmer when Kitna was lighting it up. Now look where they are.
And when KC drafted L. Johnson when Priest was realllly lighting it up.
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mcnair has never said he wants bush. so i dont know why you would make that statement.

and its a general rule about BPA. but where are kitna and holmes now? they are older players now replaced by younger guys
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And when KC drafted L. Johnson when Priest was realllly lighting it up.
Are you comparing the Chiefs a couple of years ago when they drafted Johnson to the Texans? I would say the Chiefs had a lot more going for them at the time than the Texans do at this point. Plus, Holmes was getting long in the tooth. Davis is young.
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