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Old 01-02-2006   #1
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then does that mean no Bush? Cause I don't recall him using a 1st round RB for any of those 1000 yard seasons.
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That is Shanahan not Kubiak. Shanahan is known for his arrogance of being able to plug people into his system. Remember him picking Maurice Clarrett in the third round? Nobody will pass on Bush
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except a team that doesnt need him like houston
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I hope your right, but still if we get Kubiak won't he have a similar system to Shanahan since he was his HC?
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except a team that doesnt need him like houston
Getting compensated for him and passing on him are not the same things.
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if kubiak wants a system simillar to denver's, we will ever see Bush and DD or DD and Wells getting alot of carries. WE might see Bush get a role simmillar to Tatum Bell in the running game, plus Punt return and action as a wide receiver. If we dont go with Bush, then DD will be the primary back and wells will get a lot more carries then he gets as a #2 back this season, not a bad thing...
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I hope your right, but still if we get Kubiak won't he have a similar system to Shanahan since he was his HC?
We would likely have a similar offensive system as Denver, which I could not complain about. It sure will be a lot better than the high school system he had been running. BTW your logo is hilarious.

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Very good point, as some of us have been saying in the past.

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if kubiak wants a system simillar to denver's, we will ever see Bush and DD or DD and Wells getting alot of carries. WE might see Bush get a role simmillar to Tatum Bell in the running game, plus Punt return and action as a wide receiver. If we dont go with Bush, then DD will be the primary back and wells will get a lot more carries then he gets as a #2 back this season, not a bad thing...
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well i agree with that, playing hardball with a few teams to get a better deal done.

im just against keeping him to play for us and replace our own back who just got a new deal
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I hope your right, but still if we get Kubiak won't he have a similar system to Shanahan since he was his HC?

He may have a similar system, but does not mean they are the same. Kubiak may believe that having both Davis and Bush in his system will give them the best running attack in the league. He also might not have a say in it. I really have a hard time believing that McNair will let someone else take Bush when he has him right now.
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I think Vernand M, is a real good back, if he was in a denver offense he would be a pro bowl back....
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if my mama was in denver she'd be a pro bowl back. You're going to make VM a pro bowler based off of what?
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if my mama was in denver she'd be a pro bowl back. You're going to make VM a pro bowler based off of what?
If he had the opportunity to play he would be a good back is all i'm saying.
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If you were Kubiak, and McNair offers you the job with the idea of having DD, Bush, Wells, and Morency in the backfield....how do you turn down the job? No other team with HC vacancies has the kind of backfield we have.

Minnesota? No backfield to speak of. Just a bunch of No. 2's pretending to be No. 1.

Same in Green Bay.

Same in N.O., and I don't care what you say about McCallister. Who is it after that? Antowaine Smith? Pffttt...

K.C. is the MOST attractive HC locale outside of Reliant Stadium. They have a pretty good football team, IMO.

I like our chances of getting Kubiak. And I don't necessarily think that Kubiak would want more than DD, Wells, and Morency. I think Kubiak might surprise us all and go conventional wisdom with a stud OL.

I think this will go down as one of the most intriguing offseasons in NFL history. There's going to be a LOT of player movement even before the draft, IMO.
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FYI...

I was just curious from this thread about the composition of Denver's o-line to indicate what Kubiak might do...

Denver's current o-line has one mid-late 1st round draft pick playing... the rest are from 3rd, 4th, 5th, FA.

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59 Whitley, Taylor G 6' 4" 290 02/21/80 Texas A&M FA-'05
50 Hamilton, Ben G/C 6' 4" 283 08/18/77 Minnesota D4a-'01
62 Myers, Chris G/C 6' 5" 300 09/15/81 Miami D6-'05
65 Carlisle, Cooper G/T 6' 5" 295 08/11/77 Florida D4b-'00
74 Green, Cornell T 6' 6" 315 08/25/76 Central Florida UFA(TB)-'04
72 Foster, George T 6' 5" 338 06/09/80 Georgia D1-'03
78 Lepsis, Matt T 6' 4" 290 01/13/74 Colorado CFA-'97
66 Nalen, Tom C 6' 3" 286 05/13/71 Boston College D7c-94
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I'm not saying this says anything about our first/second round picks this year, but I thought it was interesting and that you guys might like a look (though I admit to being in the Bush camp unless a mighty offer is placed on the table).

source: www.denverbroncos.com

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come on.. we have the best backfield out of the coaching vacancies? When healthy, Vikings..... Onterrio Smith, Moe Williams, Mewelde Moore, Michael Bennet... morency or wells will be gone, with Bush in the mix.
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On ESPN, said that Texans want permission to talk to Kubiak!
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I see Morency backing up Bush in the future, DD is too injury prone and will either be shopped around or cut because of his salary....Morency is cheaper.

And McNair will make the final call on Bush, no way he lets the new coach pass up on a player that will affect attendance in the immediate future.
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If you were Kubiak, and McNair offers you the job with the idea of having DD, Bush, Wells, and Morency in the backfield....how do you turn down the job? No other team with HC vacancies has the kind of backfield we have.

Minnesota? No backfield to speak of. Just a bunch of No. 2's pretending to be No. 1.

Same in Green Bay.

Same in N.O., and I don't care what you say about McCallister. Who is it after that? Antowaine Smith? Pffttt...

K.C. is the MOST attractive HC locale outside of Reliant Stadium. They have a pretty good football team, IMO.

I like our chances of getting Kubiak. And I don't necessarily think that Kubiak would want more than DD, Wells, and Morency. I think Kubiak might surprise us all and go conventional wisdom with a stud OL.

I think this will go down as one of the most intriguing offseasons in NFL history. There's going to be a LOT of player movement even before the draft, IMO.
I think KC already has their new head coach. I believe they will promote Al Saunders to replace Vermeil.
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I think Vernand M, is a real good back, if he was in a denver offense he would be a pro bowl back....



They make ron dayne look like the second coming of OJ Morency would look like gayle sayers.
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