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Old 12-23-2005   #1
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What position are you looking for in the second round? What players are you looking for to be there? Enough talk about bush and our first round pick. We need help in the second and third rounds.

my hopes to be there: LB from pen state, ahmad brooks, jason allen, michael huff,

my hopes to be there in the 3rd: manny lawson, elvis dumervile, Luiti, davin joseph...(long shot), charles gorden

this is for the second and third only, and try to explain why you want people there please. it will make for an interesting post if we all show intelligence.
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some guys will inevitably fall, some for no apparent reason. Who do you think will fall and have your eye on for our second and 2 third round picks we will actually have this year?
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What position are you looking for in the second round? What players are you looking for to be there? Enough talk about bush and our first round pick. We need help in the second and third rounds.

my hopes to be there: LB from pen state, ahmad brooks, jason allen, michael huff,

my hopes to be there in the 3rd: manny lawson, elvis dumervile, Luiti, davin joseph...(long shot), charles gorden

this is for the second and third only, and try to explain why you want people there please. it will make for an interesting post if we all show intelligence.

there is a 0% chance Huff and Brooks fall to the second round
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I agree with Stevo there.. I see both of them going in the 20-30 range.

Who I want in the second is entirely dependent on who we take in the first though.


OT Jonathen Scott is a promising prospect that could fall. Might make a very good RT for us.

CB Tye Hill also interests me in the second... hes small, but talented. Since he would obviously be our #2 CB, his size may not be too much of an issue.

TE Leonard Pope could be a nice pickup. Hes huge..but im not sure about his receiving skills.

OG Max Jean-Gilles could fall to us... he would be a great pickup to bolster the interior of our Oline.. and would be a great fit at our most needed spot on the oline (imo) Right Guard.

DT Roderique Wright COULD fall to us. If he does I think we need to pounce on him.



those are my picks i guess.
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Wouldn't mind getting Leonard Pope, TE out of Georgia in the second. Thats kinda like drafting a lineman. Dude is huge. Still wanna see what his combine and proday #'s are though he looks good on film. Not that I'm actually breaking down film on the guy but rather his games.

In the 3rd I'm crossed. It would be nice to get a solid O-lineman in FA so we can splurge in the 3rd with a big bodied possesion WR or a mean and nasty LB with an attitude.

Don't be surprised if we go CB in the 2nd. After Dunta, we don't have anyone who can cover any body.
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I don't care who we get in the first.

My second round pick needs to be an o-lineman.

If we draft a lineman in the first this just gives us MORE depth and talent.

If we don't well let's not freaking wait until the 5th round like we did last year. GET SOME QUALITY!!!!

Third round I want to see a LB or Safety.

I'd even be willing to entertain a trade back into the first round to grab a Huff.
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there is a 0% chance Huff and Brooks fall to the second round
huff is less likely to fall, but if brooks declares, he has to prove he is completely ready and then compete with all the other top LB's.

I was more or less looking for a top tier MLB.

My revised list:

2nd: whichever top 5 LB falls to us. ILB or OLB, we need them all.

3rd: i'll stick with lawson, Luiti, and Dumervile


*note: one of the top LB's will fall to us in the second. If we trade down we could be looking at two second round picks, if not one will still be suffice. The beast from penn state (who's name i cant spell and dont have time to look up) shouldnt fall, but he has not been hyped much nationally until his awards this year. Jason Allen could also be a steal for any team in the second.
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Working with the assumption that we have taken an OT with the first I would want us to take a TE with the second, Marcedes Lewis or Lenard Pope would work for me. After that it will depend on who we have picked up in FA. If we have grabed a guy like the Saints C/G then pick a defensive guy. If we haven't grabed someone like that then we should go for an interior O-lineman like Jean-Giles if he happens to be there or one similar. Then with the second 3 take the defensive guy. I know a lot folks are looking for some sort of LB, but I would go with a NT as Payne is getting older and gets injured easy. The strength of any club is the lines and I think this would be a prudent move.
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The second we should be looking for Davin Joseph or an interior O-Lineman. If we pick up an extra second, we go CB or LB/DE whichever is better at that point. In the third we need to look at safety(Slay will likely fall to the fourth so this could be another OL) and LB/DE whichever we did not pick in the second. We dont need a TE, so that would be a second day pick if I waste one on a TE at all. If David Thomas of UT is around in the 5th maybe I consider it. After that I am going to look for guys like Marcus Maxey or Devin Hester if he comes out.
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huff is less likely to fall, but if brooks declares, he has to prove he is completely ready and then compete with all the other top LB's.

I was more or less looking for a top tier MLB.

My revised list:

2nd: whichever top 5 LB falls to us. ILB or OLB, we need them all.

3rd: i'll stick with lawson, Luiti, and Dumervile


*note: one of the top LB's will fall to us in the second. If we trade down we could be looking at two second round picks, if not one will still be suffice. The beast from penn state (who's name i cant spell and dont have time to look up) shouldnt fall, but he has not been hyped much nationally until his awards this year. Jason Allen could also be a steal for any team in the second.
brooks athleticism promises him a top 15-20 pick if healthly.
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*note: one of the top LB's will fall to us in the second. If we trade down we could be looking at two second round picks, if not one will still be suffice. The beast from penn state (who's name i cant spell and dont have time to look up) shouldnt fall, but he has not been hyped much nationally until his awards this year. Jason Allen could also be a steal for any team in the second.

I just call him Poz. I think it's Posluszny, though. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he makes it through round one, though. Certainly possible with all the top flight linebackers this year, but the guy did win the Butkus, so he's hardly low profile for scouts.
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Hoping TE Mercedes Lewis from UCLA falls to the 2nd...but I doubt it will happen
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trade down from the 4th/5th pick (the Texans will win at least one of the last two games ) Select the best linemen (defensive-Haloti Ngata http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_...del&type=story or offensive D'Brick or Winston) & pick up an extra 2nd. It would be nice to have two #2's, who should become starters next year. Linebacker, CB or Linemen, BPA.

If the Texans go defensive with the 1st rd. pick the 1st pick of the 2nd rd. has to be OT/G, my preference Davin Joseph. with the 2nd pick aquired in the 2nd rd. for trading down Lenard Pope would be great if still there, WR Mike Haas or even another stud linemen.

If the Texans get their OT with the 1st pick, then one of the 2nd rd. picks would have to be on the defensive side, I don't expect Paul Posluszny the Penn State LB to be there but maybe Demarco Ryans he would be a nice MLB for us
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im looking for dominique byrd in the 3rd, and micheal huff in the 2nd.....assuming we have the 33 pick, i can see him sliding that far
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I would like Dumerville in either the second or third, with a LB in the other spot. It depends on how high Dumerville is graded.
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I would like Dumerville in either the second or third, with a LB in the other spot. It depends on how high Dumerville is graded.
he shouldnt grade that high, his hype has also died down considerbly. I still want him though. He is a player regardless.
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trade down from the 4th/5th pick (the Texans will win at least one of the last two games ) Select the best linemen (defensive-Haloti Ngata http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_...del&type=story or offensive D'Brick or Winston) & pick up an extra 2nd. It would be nice to have two #2's, who should become starters next year. Linebacker, CB or Linemen, BPA.

If the Texans go defensive with the 1st rd. pick the 1st pick of the 2nd rd. has to be OT/G, my preference Davin Joseph. with the 2nd pick aquired in the 2nd rd. for trading down Lenard Pope would be great if still there, WR Mike Haas or even another stud linemen.

If the Texans get their OT with the 1st pick, then one of the 2nd rd. picks would have to be on the defensive side, I don't expect Paul Posluszny the Penn State LB to be there but maybe Demarco Ryans he would be a nice MLB for us
I thought Ryans was a OLB prospect and was considered undersized even for that.
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I thought Ryans was a OLB prospect and was considered undersized even for that.
OLB's in a 3-4 are like college DE's (which he is not for sure) we need a quick, relentless able to drop into coverage ILB the fact some have him too highly rated just for those same concerns could drop him to the 2nd a good value for the Texans

ILB would be DeMeco Ryans position in a 3-4, Kipper has him rated #3 on his top 25 draft board at the moment.

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OLB's in a 3-4 are like college DE's (which he is not for sure) we need a quick, relentless able to drop into coverage ILB the fact some have him too highly rated just for those same concerns could drop him to the 2nd a good value for the Texans

ILB would be DeMeco Ryans position in a 3-4, Kipper has him rated #3 on his top 25 draft board at the moment.
He is not a DE, but is a conventional OLB. I just cannot see him adding enough bulk to play the MLB we came to expect w/sharper. Greenwood is awful. Ryans would still play OLB in this system. MLB are supposed to be run stoppers, and he does not posess the size to do that.
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He is not a DE, but is a conventional OLB. I just cannot see him adding enough bulk to play the MLB we came to expect w/sharper. Greenwood is awful. Ryans would still play OLB in this system. MLB are supposed to be run stoppers, and he does not posess the size to do that.
yeah he is a OLB in College but not the NFL. The ILB's are supposed to be smaller & quicker to take away the underneath while the OLB's push the outside & the massive tackles plug the middle. He would be Greenwoods replacement!
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