Statements that should be banned next year: - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**gtexan02** · 12-22-2005

1. We don't need any new O-line help, ours just needs time to gel!
2. A rookie OT couldn't come in and learn the schemes fast enough to be a starter
3. There is no need to sign a big name FA. Do you want us to be in cap trouble like the Titans?
4. Its only the preseason!

YoungTexanFan · 12-22-2005

i'll go with this list:

5. Vince Young
6. Demarucs Faggins
7. Jags

procede...

Grid · 12-22-2005

its not that cut and dry im afraid.

1. If we get new Olinemen they MAY need time to gel.

2. Rookie OTs rarely start at LT their first season. RT would be good though.

3. DO you want us to be in cap trouble? This response is usually only used in situations where an ignorant fan is saying we should trade David Carr for Brett Favre and sign TO though. Ok maybe not that bad.. but alot of people seem to think we have no talent and any name they recognize on the FA list is an immediate upgrade. (such as Peerless Price)

4. If its preseason.. then it IS only preseason. Do you know how many teams play terribly in preseason then go on to make the postseason? alot. Just cause our bad preseason performance carried over into the regular season.. that doesnt mean people were wrong when they said "Its only the preseason"

Grid · 12-22-2005

P.S. where does this Faggins hate come from?

He has played very well for us as a nickle and dime back. He was a 7th round pick that has shown that he can contribute to the team. So he had some difficult as a starter at the beggining of the season.. GET OVER IT! He is young.. he is talented.. and even if he never gets any better, he is still a great 3rd and 4th string CB.

YoungTexanFan · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by Grid

4. If its preseason.. then it IS only preseason. Do you know how many teams play terribly in preseason then go on to make the postseason? alot. Just cause our bad preseason performance carried over into the regular season.. that doesnt mean people were wrong when they said "Its only the preseason"

Most of the teams you are refering to play the back up and reserves to see what they can do. It is also a time for extensive evaluation of the shiny new draft picks. Pre-season for us is nothing compared to sucessful teams, and i contribute that to the coach.

on a side note, i have a serious craving for froot loops.

YoungTexanFan · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by Grid

P.S. where does this Faggins hate come from?

He has played very well for us as a nickle and dime back. He was a 7th round pick that has shown that he can contribute to the team. So he had some difficult as a starter at the beggining of the season.. GET OVER IT! He is young.. he is talented.. and even if he never gets any better, he is still a great 3rd and 4th string CB.

I would have very little problem if he was our 4th or last CB. The problem is he is starting. He is not talented, and he has shown less progression than david carr and he has had circumstances working for him. He has never had anything but a difficult time when he was force into extensive playing time.

I was wondering when someone would ask about my personal vendetta for him

Grid · 12-22-2005

pretty much every team in the NFL follows the same..or very similar..patterns in preseason.

the starters are slowly worked in.. a quarter at a time.. until the final preseason game where they play the majority of the game and the 2nd/3rd stringers get one last chance to show their stuff.

Basicly what im saying is... no.. we arent any different.. and no.. preseason has no real bearing on a teams capabilities come week 1.

Grid · 12-22-2005

Well if ya have no problem with him at 3rd/4th string.. I dont see any point in having a personal vendetta with him. you can pretty much guarantee that he isnt going to be the #2 CB next season.

YoungTexanFan · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by Grid

Well if ya have no problem with him at 3rd/4th string.. I dont see any point in having a personal vendetta with him. you can pretty much guarantee that he isnt going to be the #2 CB next season.

He isnt criticized by anyone except me on this board. Everyone calls out buchanon who stepped it up considerably and has more talent than most DB's in the league, but says nothing about a 7th round starter with no potential and little ability. He is beat deep consistently but refuses to play the reciever running the short and intermediate routs. He could at least do one or the other.

**TEXANS84** · 12-22-2005

The only statement that should be banned is:

"We just simply failed to execute today".

**eriadoc** · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

He isnt criticized by anyone except me on this board. Everyone calls out buchanon who stepped it up considerably and has more talent than most DB's in the league, but says nothing about a 7th round starter with no potential and little ability. He is beat deep consistently but refuses to play the reciever running the short and intermediate routs. He could at least do one or the other.

It's not his fault he's a starter. He goes out there and does the best he can (which isn't starter material, I agree) and what happens, happens. You should redirect your vendetta to those who not only put him on the field as a starter, but let Wright (and to an extent, McCree) go because of him. This coaching staff felt that, in nickel situations, Coleman at safety and Faggins at nickel (last year) was better than Coleman at nickel and McCree at FS. I still disagree with that decision. They let Wright go because they thought Faggins was a better nickel back. I still disagree with that decision. I have no problem with Faggins. It's not like he's going out there and failing due to lack of effort. He fails due to lack of talent - he was a 7th round pick for a reason. The coaches that continue to put him out there are the ones that deserve a vendetta, in this particular instance.

TexanAlmighty · 12-22-2005

1. Fire Capers or Casserly(hopefully both are gone)
2. Carr is a below average QB it's not the line.
3. Trade 2 draft picks to a division rival to move up and reach for a DL to convert to LB.(ref : Jason Babin)
4. Why don't we bench Carr and start Ragone?
5. Don't draft Reggie Bush trade down.
6. Pre- season does count.
7. Tell the DD to fumble the ball we need the #1 draft pick!
8. Kris Brown missed the FG on purpose for higher draft position
9. Hire Jimmy Johnson
10. The Texans trade a #2 and a #3 for a CB that cannot tackle and gets burned downfield. (ref : Phillip Buchanon)

Porky · 12-22-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEXANS84

The only statement that should be banned is:

"We just simply failed to execute today".

This is the one I thought of.

Others:

I know one thing, this team hasn't given up.
We'll see what this team is made of in the second half.
We have a team of fighters.
They practice hard.
Joppru just injured his pinky toe.
Giving up a 3rd isn't much, since only 25% make it.
We really love our new 3rd round pick.
We really like his athletism.
We should be competing for the playoffs. :brickwall

**Buffi2** · 12-22-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEXANS84

The only statement that should be banned is:

"We just simply failed to execute today".

Add to that, "I know what it takes to win football games." and
"Keep the score close so you still have a chance to win in the 4th quarter."

z0rpAn · 12-22-2005

11. We didn't execute.
12. Bench Carr and play Ragone
13. Why was Carr calling plays?
14. Bench Bradford and play Mathis(hoping its already done)

BigDTexansFan · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

Most of the teams you are refering to play the back up and reserves to see what they can do. It is also a time for extensive evaluation of the shiny new draft picks. Pre-season for us is nothing compared to sucessful teams, and i contribute that to the coach.

on a side note, i have a serious craving for froot loops.

pre-season is MEANINGLESS, 2004 NFL Champion New England Patriots went 0-4. :brickwall

**Double Barrel** · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by BigDTexansFan

pre-season is MEANINGLESS, 2004 NFL Champion New England Patriots went 0-4. :brickwall

Exactly. Pre-season wins are fool's gold.

cuppacoffee · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by gtexan02

1. We don't need any new O-line help, ours just needs time to gel!
2. A rookie OT couldn't come in and learn the schemes fast enough to be a starter
3. There is no need to sign a big name FA. Do you want us to be in cap trouble like the Titans?
4. Its only the preseason!

My Idol (almost) Ibar tried to convey all of this to us last pre-season. Very few here wanted to listen....including me. Ibar for GM.

mootini · 12-22-2005

One statement I like to hear...Jags win again!!! 6-4 series 2006..CREAM Da BEEF

cuppacoffee · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by mootini

One statement I like to hear...Jags win again!!! 6-4 series 2006..CREAM Da BEEF

But will you be here next week if your Jags live up to form and lose to our Texans ? Again.

12-22-2005	#12
TexanAlmighty Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Texas Age: 41 Posts: 173 Rep Power: 9	Top 10 Things I hope I don't hear next year - 2006 1. Fire Capers or Casserly(hopefully both are gone) 2. Carr is a below average QB it's not the line. 3. Trade 2 draft picks to a division rival to move up and reach for a DL to convert to LB.(ref : Jason Babin) 4. Why don't we bench Carr and start Ragone? 5. Don't draft Reggie Bush trade down. 6. Pre- season does count. 7. Tell the DD to fumble the ball we need the #1 draft pick! 8. Kris Brown missed the FG on purpose for higher draft position 9. Hire Jimmy Johnson 10. The Texans trade a #2 and a #3 for a CB that cannot tackle and gets burned downfield. (ref : Phillip Buchanon) __________________ The Texans will win at least 7 games under the new Head Coach 12-30-05

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12-22-2005	#1
gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,334 Rep Power: 34917	Statements that should be banned next year: 1. We don't need any new O-line help, ours just needs time to gel! 2. A rookie OT couldn't come in and learn the schemes fast enough to be a starter 3. There is no need to sign a big name FA. Do you want us to be in cap trouble like the Titans? 4. Its only the preseason!

12-22-2005	#2
YoungTexanFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,790 Rep Power: 653	i'll go with this list: 5. Vince Young 6. Demarucs Faggins 7. Jags procede... __________________ The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we had when we created them.

12-22-2005	#3
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	its not that cut and dry im afraid. 1. If we get new Olinemen they MAY need time to gel. 2. Rookie OTs rarely start at LT their first season. RT would be good though. 3. DO you want us to be in cap trouble? This response is usually only used in situations where an ignorant fan is saying we should trade David Carr for Brett Favre and sign TO though. Ok maybe not that bad.. but alot of people seem to think we have no talent and any name they recognize on the FA list is an immediate upgrade. (such as Peerless Price) 4. If its preseason.. then it IS only preseason. Do you know how many teams play terribly in preseason then go on to make the postseason? alot. Just cause our bad preseason performance carried over into the regular season.. that doesnt mean people were wrong when they said "Its only the preseason"

12-22-2005	#10
TEXANS84 Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Woodlands, TX Age: 35 Posts: 7,447 Rep Power: 3116	The only statement that should be banned is: "We just simply failed to execute today".

12-22-2005	#15
z0rpAn Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 243 Rep Power: 0	11. We didn't execute. 12. Bench Carr and play Ragone 13. Why was Carr calling plays? 14. Bench Bradford and play Mathis(hoping its already done)

12-22-2005	#19
mootini 1stdown!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Keystone Heights, FL Age: 39 Posts: 635 Rep Power: 4206	One statement I like to hear...Jags win again!!! 6-4 series 2006..CREAM Da BEEF

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