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Old 12-12-2005   #1
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Default Does Casserly really want Reggie Bush?

I really doubt it. Seriously.

He can't talk about it, at the risk of getting fined. But that doesn't stop Bob Allen or 610 from asking him about him. And from all the non-answers, this one sticks out. "I really like what Domanick Davis means to our football team."

And remember. Casserly doesn't give two squats what the fans think. Derrick Johnson should convince you of that.
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true, but it isn't just fans saying that we should take him.

and i think he does give two squats about what bob mcnair thinks and he isn't about to let this gold mine go to someone else.
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Casserly has both said that they are very happy with Domanick Davis and that he would have a hard time spending the #1 pick on a part time player and I tend to agree with him on both those points.
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And remember. Casserly doesn't give two squats what the fans think. Derrick Johnson should convince you of that.
Casserly gambled with Johnson. I really do believe that he thought he could trade down and still get him at 16. He was close, but wrong.
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Casserly gambled with Johnson. I really do believe that he thought he could trade down and still get him at 16. He was close, but wrong.
I am also led to believe that he thought Derrick would be there at #16 but it didn't work out, and all that to add a third round pick this year.
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Close only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades, and in this case it landed us an average D-lineman with the 16th pick, chosen ahead of successful starters this year like Ware or Spears. I hope we pick up a killer this year with that third rounder. Good one, Cass.
Ware was taken at #11. Spears #20.
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everybody is focused on taking or not taking Reggie Bush if the Texans get the 1st pick and he declares for the draft but in all these trade down sceneros is anyone factoring facing Reggie Bush once he is in the NFL especially to a team in division or conference that we have to play on a regular basis?

I just can't imagine the Texans defense stopping Reggie Bush we make average backs look like all-pro's. therefore not only would we gain Reggies services we would not have to deal with those services being used against us.
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what average backs are you referring to? ... Haven't we been pretty good on the run defense this year? If I am just willfully blocking out bad memories, please refresh my mind here.
We're dead last in run defense this year.
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what average backs are you referring to? ... Haven't we been pretty good on the run defense this year? If I am just willfully blocking out bad memories, please refresh my mind here.

Besides, who will Bush go to besides the Niners, Jets, or last I heard, maybe the Packers. Not like we see them much.

I think he is referring to trading down to a team like the Titans or some other 4-10 pick. Not necessarily just the Niners, Jets, and Packers.
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Why do you think we are gonna draft a player we dont need when there are very good OL in this draft. Come on lets be honest here we have DD and we dont need BUSH. This whole lets draft Bush topic is dumb and needs to trashed and forgotten. OL, TE and S are more important than Bush. Even Linehart has more of a chance of being drafted by the Texans than Bush does. And the only way Linehart would be drafted is if Carr's 8mil isnt picked up. Lets be honest lets just stop talking about Bush and lets start talking about what we really are gonna do.

1. Draft Furgeson (sp) or OL
2. trade down


thats it.
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Why do you think we are gonna draft a player we dont need when there are very good OL in this draft. Come on lets be honest here we have DD and we dont need BUSH. This whole lets draft Bush topic is dumb and needs to trashed and forgotten. OL, TE and S are more important than Bush. Even Linehart has more of a chance of being drafted by the Texans than Bush does. And the only way Linehart would be drafted is if Carr's 8mil isnt picked up. Lets be honest lets just stop talking about Bush and lets start talking about what we really are gonna do.

1. Draft Furgeson (sp) or OL
2. trade down


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Your right there are a lot of good OL in the draft this year which means that we can afford to draft Reggie Bush and some good OL players. I don't know how you can say that Reggie isn't important to this team when we have a pathetic offense and only one playmaker on the team. We aren't lighting up the scoreboards every game last time I checked. We are losing a lot of these games by 1 or 2 touchdowns. Having another playmaker could turn this 1-12 season into a 6-7 or 7-6 season right now.

And Ferguson isn't even the best lineman in the country right now. He wasn't named to 1st team all american and a lot of people have questions about his size. If there was a slam dunk lineman, then yes I would say we shoudl trade down and get him, but there isn't. There is a slam dunk offensive player named Reggie Bush who could help turn this team around.
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I think we are gonna be trading down. I am about 90% sure we will trade down and get 2 1st rd picks. Then we can OL and a TE. Then image how good we would be with a TE threat and a better blocking O-line instead of new RB same things as this year
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That would mean that we are trading with Denver since they are the only team with 2 first round picks this year. Denver doesn't trade up to get running backs. Shannahan is too arrogant to do something like that because he believes he can put anyone in the lineup and have them be a successful running back. And he is right.
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what average backs are you referring to? ... Haven't we been pretty good on the run defense this year? If I am just willfully blocking out bad memories, please refresh my mind here.
McGahee 117 yds.
Parker 111 yds.
R. Johnson 88 yds.
C Brown 78 yds.
R Droughns 99 yds.
L Johnson 211 yds.

I'll grant you that S Alexander 141 yds. & E James 139 & 122 yds are both all-pro.

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Besides, who will Bush go to besides the Niners, Jets, or last I heard, maybe the Packers. Not like we see them much.
depends on the packages offered not neccesarily the team who finishes last, the Titans with Chow as the OC would be my primary concern or the team I was indicating.
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I think we are gonna be trading down. I am about 90% sure we will trade down and get 2 1st rd picks. Then we can OL and a TE. Then image how good we would be with a TE threat and a better blocking O-line instead of new RB same things as this year
As was previously said, I doubt we end up with two first round picks this year as Denver is the only team with two first rounders, but we can trade down a couple spots and pick up a high second round pick this year and a first rounder next year, plus more similar picks if we trade down twice. I do not especially want to see us draft a TE, especially not in the first round.

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McGahee 117 yds.
Parker 111 yds.
R. Johnson 88 yds.
C Brown 78 yds.
R Droughns 99 yds.
L Johnson 211 yds.

I'll grant you that S Alexander 141 yds. & E James 139 & 122 yds are both all-pro.
McGahee and Larry Johnson are definitely All-Pro quality RBs and Parker and Rudi Johnson definitely have a chance of becoming All-Pros at some point in their career.
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As was previously said, I doubt we end up with two first round picks this year as Denver is the only team with two first rounders, but we can trade down a couple spots and pick up a high second round pick this year and a first rounder next year, plus more similar picks if we trade down twice. I do not especially want to see us draft a TE, especially not in the first round.



McGahee and Larry Johnson are definitely All-Pro quality RBs and Parker and Rudi Johnson definitely have a chance of becoming All-Pros at some point in their career.
willie parker doesnt have much of a chance. Rudi might become an all-pro or close to it.
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everybody is focused on taking or not taking Reggie Bush if the Texans get the 1st pick and he declares for the draft but in all these trade down sceneros is anyone factoring facing Reggie Bush once he is in the NFL especially to a team in division or conference that we have to play on a regular basis?

I just can't imagine the Texans defense stopping Reggie Bush we make average backs look like all-pro's. therefore not only would we gain Reggies services we would not have to deal with those services being used against us.
Unfortunatly, you too beerlover, seem to have turned over in your opinion and joined the "other" side. Best wishes until you come back to "our" side after the combine.

here once posted an honest man, not yet corrupted by chaos and hype. I salute you for the time you lasted, the train is picking up more members as the same arguments persist.
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willie parker doesnt have much of a chance. Rudi might become an all-pro or close to it.
Parker had a decent rookie year and the Steelers love to run the ball, so as he develops and Bettis and Staley get older and phase out Parker could put up some nice numbers, but we'll have to wait and see on him.
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everybody is focused on taking or not taking Reggie Bush if the Texans get the 1st pick and he declares for the draft but in all these trade down sceneros is anyone factoring facing Reggie Bush once he is in the NFL especially to a team in division or conference that we have to play on a regular basis?

I just can't imagine the Texans defense stopping Reggie Bush we make average backs look like all-pro's. therefore not only would we gain Reggies services we would not have to deal with those services being used against us.
We can't draft a player only on the premise that we don't want to have to defend against him two times every eight years when we actually play his team. Realistically we will probably only play against Reggie Bush twice in his career unless he goes to an AFC team and we meet in the playoffs.
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