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Old 12-12-2005   #1
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Hey guys, I am a Bronco's fan from Www.Broncosfreak.com and i just wanted to talk about the upcoming draft. I have a good feeling you guys will end up with the first overall pick next year and as everyone knows by now Bush is going to be that pick.
I do realize that Bush is an ubeleivable talent, but i also beleive there are many holes for you guys to fill on both sides of the ball. All of a sudden it hit me, we have 2 1st rounder next year... I was thinking maybe our two franchises could come up with a deal that looked something like this-

Denver Gives-
1st Rounder this year (From Washington)
1st Rounder this year
2rd Rounder This year
Cooper Carlisle
Ashley Lelie

Houston Gives-
1st Rounder #1 Overall

We would get one of the best running prospects to come out of college in quite some time behind an amazingly athletic OLine. He could be something special in our system (Not to say that he isnt something special already. ) Also Shanny loves running those no men in the backfield plays where the RB goes out to the WR position, this is something Bush can do much better than Bell.
This would give you two first rounders to use on offensive linemen (D'brick, Mcneil, Winston) or maybe a stud defensive linemen (Kiwi, Williams, Hali, Lawson). Cooper Carlisle is an above average guard who is a starter for us. He could easiely step in and really help you guys out. Also Ashley Lelie would give you guys a very solid #2 receiver behind Andre Johnson.
I think you guys are a few links away from being a contending team. You do have a ton of young talent in young guys like Carr, Davis, Johnson and Robinson.
Well let me know what ya think fellas, this is just a blueprint of what i think the trade could look like im sure it could be switched up if needed.
Also i wanted to bring up the idea of maybe our Offensive Co-ordinator Gary Kubiak stepping in and being your guy's head coach next season? He would be a good fit and has been doing an outstanding job for us for a while. I beleive he deserves a head coaching job somewhere in the NFL.

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I dont like your trade, one because we are not getting close to equal value for the number 1 pick. Ashley Lelie has proven to be really no more than a number 3 receiver and Cooper Carlisle is a bit undersized but has a mean streak. Your two first rounders will be quite low both likely in the twenties unless you all can get pass Indy this year. A better trade that would be more to our liking would likely send DJ Williams both first and next years 2nd. That would likely come close to value. You might have to throw a third or fourth in there to make it work.

As far as Kubiak goes he is my guy to take over the job. He is a discipline guy and has done a great job mentoring QBs and making sure Shanahan does not have to worry much about the offense. The job he has done with Plummer is amazing. I would like him and Dennison your OL coach and Alex Gibbs protege to both come over. Hey and good luck in the playoffs.
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Signed even though Lelie is just another speed reciever and we have enough of those, but he wouldnt hurt.
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I can guarantee you that the Broncos aren't going to trade all that away to get Bush. The Broncos have proven to be able to run the ball effectively with almost anyone back there, and they were willing to trade off Clinton Portis a couple years ago so I don't see them giving up very much to get Bush. I wouldn't mind getting two first rounders, their third rounder and D.J. Williams though, but I don't see that happening.
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Originally Posted by BroncoPride
Hey guys, I am a Bronco's fan from Www.Broncosfreak.com and i just wanted to talk about the upcoming draft. I have a good feeling you guys will end up with the first overall pick next year and as everyone knows by now Bush is going to be that pick.
I do realize that Bush is an ubeleivable talent, but i also beleive there are many holes for you guys to fill on both sides of the ball. All of a sudden it hit me, we have 2 1st rounder next year... I was thinking maybe our two franchises could come up with a deal that looked something like this-

Denver Gives-
1st Rounder this year (From Washington)
1st Rounder this year
2rd Rounder This year
Cooper Carlisle
Ashley Lelie

Houston Gives-
1st Rounder #1 Overall

We would get one of the best running prospects to come out of college in quite some time behind an amazingly athletic OLine. He could be something special in our system (Not to say that he isnt something special already. ) Also Shanny loves running those no men in the backfield plays where the RB goes out to the WR position, this is something Bush can do much better than Bell.
This would give you two first rounders to use on offensive linemen (D'brick, Mcneil, Winston) or maybe a stud defensive linemen (Kiwi, Williams, Hali, Lawson). Cooper Carlisle is an above average guard who is a starter for us. He could easiely step in and really help you guys out. Also Ashley Lelie would give you guys a very solid #2 receiver behind Andre Johnson.
I think you guys are a few links away from being a contending team. You do have a ton of young talent in young guys like Carr, Davis, Johnson and Robinson.
Well let me know what ya think fellas, this is just a blueprint of what i think the trade could look like im sure it could be switched up if needed.
Also i wanted to bring up the idea of maybe our Offensive Co-ordinator Gary Kubiak stepping in and being your guy's head coach next season? He would be a good fit and has been doing an outstanding job for us for a while. I beleive he deserves a head coaching job somewhere in the NFL.

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Wow thats alot for the Broncos to give up. Almost their whole 1st day. thats crazy.
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That deal will never get done. Shannahan believe anyone not in a wheelchair can be a league leading running back in his system, so he would NEVER trade that for a RB. Kubiak is well thought of around the league and here on the MB and would be a welcomed addition.
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just the fact that all you Bronco fans are here on our board talking Bush
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Haha a Bell fan. Trust me im high on Bell also especially in a limited carries role, but he doesnt have the hands or balance that Bush has. Bush is a franchise player and in my opinion would really put us over the top.

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That deal will never get done. Shannahan believe anyone not in a wheelchair can be a league leading running back in his system, so he would NEVER trade that for a RB. Kubiak is well thought of around the league and here on the MB and would be a welcomed addition.
It is true, Shanahan can turn anyone into a 1000 yard back. But why not see how someone with a ton of potential does in our system? If Olandis Gary can get 1000 yards what kind of numbers would Bush put up...?

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Wow thats alot for the Broncos to give up. Almost their whole 1st day. thats crazy.
Yes, it is a ton to trade but i beleive it may be worth it for both franchises, we have a ton of depth and i think we are one quality franchise player away from another SB.

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Actually the Lions fans are talking a lot about Kubiak for HC and since we are already running a WCO, why not bring him in?!
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